A Level Headed Review Week 6 2024

[DenverChief]

So the bye week has come and gone and there are several things to talk about in review.

We lost Hollywood Brown and Rashee Rice for the season for all intents and purposes. There is a slim chance Brown could make an appearance this year in the playoffs. That would be 14 weeks (98 days) away assuming we get the #1 seed. That would be 5 months since his injury.

Skyy Moore has done absolutely nothing to prove he belongs on this roster. He has had 0 receptions on 2 targets. Additionally he has a fumbled kickoff that he recovered.

Justin Watson is a good #4 option but he isn't going to strike fearing the hearts of opposing defenses.

There is a 50% chance the Chiefs stand pat with their WR corps and end up calling up Remegio or Washington to help round out the room. There is also a 50% chance the Chiefs go out and get someone. Lots of names have been floated around and I think there are a handful of choices that make the most sense.

1 - Tyreek Hill. The Dolphins are 2-3 at this point and without Tua until week 8. A lot of this depends on the Dolphins. Are they selling and looking for draft capital for a Tua replacement? Tyreek is 30 and not happy with the Miami offense. Could it happen, sure. Will it happen, I don't know. A lot of variables in play on this one including Brett Veach. Still, if all the cards land correctly he could be a Chief again. Compensation would probably be multiple picks from day 2 and/or day 3. Hill has $19.2M in guaranteed money and $12.7M in SB.

2. Christian Kirk. The Jags are 1-5 & DP is on the hot seat. With how their schedule looks they could easily be 2-7 (Patriots, Packers, Eagles) at the trade deadline. Does Jacksonville want to blow it up and start thinking about next season? Kirk fits this offense because of DP as a Reid tree disciple. Kirk should be able to be up to speed on our O pretty quickly with similar concepts. Kirk is 24/39 for 296 yards and a TD. Not sure what the trade compensation would be but at 27 years old I wouldn't be opposed to giving up our 3rd from the Sneed trade for him. Kirk has a $14.5M price tag for this year - Jax would eat $7.8M signing bonus.

3. DeAndre Hopkins. The Titans too are also a mess at 1-4 and circling the drain. 2-6 could be a real possibility before the trade deadline (Buffalo, Detroit, New England). Levis was 16/27 for 95 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT today. Hopkins would be good because he is a seasoned veteran and still has lots left in the tank and most likely has the ability to pick up the offense fairly quickly. I think he is hungry for a ring and would be a good addition to Worthy/JJSS/Hardman/Watson. He is 14/20 for 175 yards and a TD on a terrible Titans team. Compensation for Hopkins should be fairly palatable possibly a 5th rounder. Hopkins currently has $4.4M Guaranteed and $1.9M SB with other built in bonuses (Workout $250,000 and "other" $2.3M)

4. Amari Cooper. The Browns too are literally a brown paper bag of poo on fire in front of an old mans home (1-5). Their next three before the trade deadline are Bengals, Ravens and Chargers, they could easily be 1-8 by that time. It's plainly obvious Cooper doesn't want to be in Cleveland anymore and is making "business decisions". Coopers restructure deal with the Browns, basically converting all of his salary to a signing bonus, makes a deal more friendly for the Chiefs. They could pay him the vet minimum and Cooper would most likely be okay with that. Cooper like Hopkins is a seasoned vet and could most likely pick up the offense faster than a younger WR. He is 24/53 for 250 yards and 2 TDs. Asking compensation has been rumored to be an early day three pick or better. $1.2M guaranteed. Traded to Bills

5. Demarcus Robinson. I'm sure there will be a lot of laughing at this one. The Rams are a bad team (1-4) and looking like they could be 2-6 by the trade deadline (Raiders, Vikings, Seahawks). Robinson has familiarity with the Chiefs offense and really thrived with the Chiefs as a #3 when he had Hill and Watkins around him. Juju and Worthy could be the type of receivers that help him be a solid #3 and in turn elevate Juju and Worthy. He is 12/23 189 yards 1 TD. Compensation could be as simple as Moore for Robinson and a pick swap. At the most a late day 3 draft pick. Robinson currently has $2.5M guaranteed and $1.5M SB.


I put all of those stats up to show you where are are production wise with our current WR's. All of the above except for Robinson are #1 or #2 WR's on their team.

Worthy - 12/21 179 yards 2 TD's
JJSS - 9/12 147 yards 1 TD
Watson - 6/8 87 yards
Hardman - 4/4 33 yards
Moore - 0/2 0 yards

The RB room got stronger with bringing back Hunt. I love Pacheco but he lacks vision in the running game sometimes. I forgot what having a RB that can see the seams in the blocking is like. Hunt just has good vision. He can routinely get between 4-7 yards per attempt. I heard a stat watching sports talk the other day -- Hunt rushed for 27 attempts in the win over the Saints. That was the most attempts he has had in a game since the last time he was with the Chiefs. Hunt truly will be the next Marcus Allen...able to play well into his mid-30's because he never carried a full work load in Cleveland. Once Pacheco returns the combination of him and Hunt will make our running game very dangerous. I could also see Steele used as trade bait for one of the above WR's knowing we have Pacheco coming back and Hunt/Perine carrying the workload.

Offensive Line looks amazing. The tackles are improving, Morris really has stepped up since winning the job back. Taylor still has bad plays with false starts and holding calls but they are significantly less than last year. What else needs to be said about Thuney, Humphrey and Smith.

Defense - as a whole still looks great. Even with the loss of Gay and Sneed Spags just knows how to put guys in the right spots at the right time. There isn't a whole lot to say about the Defense other than they are going to save our bacon again this year while the offense figures it out.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Baker had Van Pelt for just two seasons. His first two seasons his OCs were Todd Haley and Freddie Kitchens. Now, he probably learned some good things while he was with Haley. Starting with certain fundamentals. But I doubt Kitchens helped Baker progress at all.

Stefanski was his first really good coach, along with Van Pelt, of course. But it was also Stefanski's first season as a HC and just his second season as OC/playcaller. He wasn't the widely respected coach/OC he is today, not yet.

Yeah that’s fair, but main point was that baker was really progressing as a qb until he had a bad season which can be blamed on injury. He had a stellar season in 2020. Started out poorly but was one of the better qbs in the league by end of season.. Really the main performance reason the browns gave up on him was because he played through a shoulder injury in 2021. Most guys would be applauded for being tough. But for browns fans they took this as proof that the guy was too inconsistent.

[ChiefEd]

I’m pulling for Kirk. Not only would he fix this year, if structured right we could probably have him for another year (or two) beyond this one. He’s still young enough to do a 3-year deal and prorate a bunch of the money. Aka… kick the can down the road…

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters

I think we stay where we are.

Normally I would agree. But we are trying to become historical with the 3 peat. If we can’t get “the guy” (whoever that is) I don’t think we trade just to trade for a body. It has to be the right fit in the locker room and on the field.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by ChiefEd

I’m pulling for Kirk. Not only would he fix this year, if structured right we could probably have him for another year (or two) beyond this one. He’s still young enough to do a 3-year deal and prorate a bunch of the money. Aka… kick the can down the road…

I like Amari because he’s a perfect rental. But I’m growing to love the idea of Kirk because he’d actually be a perfect side piece. Long term we don’t need a WR1 though it obviously couldn’t hurt. Rice, Kirk, worthy and even a year older kelce would be downright filthy

[SurroundedByMorons]

We have seen enough of DRob running backwards in KC. Zero interest.

We are going to roll with who we have unless someone else gets injured.

[Rainbarrel]

Hopkins is like a gar on a fish bank. Just let it flop into the weeds and die

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I like Amari because he’s a perfect rental. But I’m growing to love the idea of Kirk because he’d actually be a perfect side piece. Long term we don’t need a WR1 though it obviously couldn’t hurt. Rice, Kirk, worthy and even a year older kelce would be downright filthy

Sorry...having watched Kirk here in Jacksonville I am not as impressed. Part of that is the lousy play of Trevor Lawrence, but not all of it.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

Sorry...having watched Kirk here in Jacksonville I am not as impressed. Part of that is the lousy play of Trevor Lawrence, but not all of it.

I don’t think he’s a game breaker by any means, but as of today he’s better than what we have and in the future he’s a good complementary piece to rice/worthy. Assuming he would be paid like the complementary piece he is

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by SurroundedByMorons

We have seen enough of DRob running backwards in KC. Zero interest.

We are going to roll with who we have unless someone else gets injured.

DRob has his flaws but he is tremendous in scramble drill. And we have a qb who’s pretty damn good at that.

With the way juju played maybe we don’t need that as much as I thought a few weeks ago.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

DRob has his flaws but he is tremendous in scramble drill. And we have a qb who’s pretty damn good at that.

With the way juju played maybe we don’t need that as much as I thought a few weeks ago.

Juju and Worthy are our only reliable WRs. Unless we are going to start running our offense thru 13 and 14 personnel with a heavy run game we need another WR. Now the other option is to call up Remegio or Washington - I would say Ross but I don’t think he moves the needle over Moore/Watson

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by SurroundedByMorons

We have seen enough of DRob running backwards in KC. Zero interest.

We are going to roll with who we have unless someone else gets injured.

That's the problem. If someone else gets injured after the deadline, there's less options available.

They have to move forward with the knowledge that Rice and Brown aren't returning this season. If Brown does return, he will be limited in not playing all season and coming off a long injury.

Also, Kelce and Juju taking a beating for 12 consecutive games is not good for their SB chances.

They have to bring another WR in. Doesn't have to be prime Calvin Johnson but doing nothing is too risky. Yes, they won a SB last season with a subpar WR core, but it was a harder road than normal and you don't get bonus points for increasing the difficulty level of winning. A short-term stopgap would make a SB run easier. The threepeat possibility is too tempting to worry about losing a few draft picks.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

That's the problem. If someone else gets injured after the deadline, there's less options available.

They have to move forward with the knowledge that Rice and Brown aren't returning this season. If Brown does return, he will be limited in not playing all season and coming off a long injury.

Also, Kelce and Juju taking a beating for 12 consecutive games is not good for their SB chances.

They have to bring another WR in. Doesn't have to be prime Calvin Johnson but doing nothing is too risky. Yes, they won a SB last season with a subpar WR core, but it was a harder road than normal and you don't get bonus points for increasing the difficulty level of winning. A short-term stopgap would make a SB run easier. The threepeat possibility is too tempting to worry about losing a few draft picks.

Exactly.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

Juju and Worthy are our only reliable WRs. Unless we are going to start running our offense thru 13 and 14 personnel with a heavy run game we need another WR. Now the other option is to call up Remegio or Washington - I would say Ross but I don’t think he moves the needle over Moore/Watson

I still welcome this move or any move. In fact really want it. But where drob used to be really high on my list, I think now if we have a choice I’d rather have a guy who can win in structure. And better use juju on scramble drill. But I’d be cool with drob too

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I still welcome this move or any move. In fact really want it. But where drob used to be really high on my list, I think now if we have a choice I’d rather have a guy who can win in structure. And better use juju on scramble drill. But I’d be cool with drob too

Agreed. We need to do something standing pat isn’t an option. Whether that’s calling up PS guys or making moves at the trade deadline.

[FloridaMan88]

Why would the Rams trade DRob?

They are injury depleted at WR and even at 1-4, they are still very much alive in a weak NFC West.