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Chris Meck · 02-07-2021, 09:02 PM

The injuries of the offensive line, in the end, were just too much. Even for Mahomes.

They ran a Tampa 2 to take away the big plays, and we couldn't pass block, and we couldn't run the ball consistently.

You still have to block. No matter what playmakers you have.

And defensively, the defensive front 7 is need of an infusion of talent too.

The Chiefs need another force up front. Maybe Gay is the upgrade at LB, maybe we need another.

But I don't want to hear any more horseshit about how we shouldn't spend draft resources on the offensive line.

Even Mahomes is still human. Exceptional, yes. But human.

Chief Northman · 02-07-2021, 09:56 PM

Hated the timeouts the last bit of Q2.
Let the clock run, swallow your pride and go into half down a score.
The 3 position swing along the O-line was a terrible decision. Veach has work to do.

**ChiTown** · 02-07-2021, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Hated the timeouts the last bit of Q2.
Let the clock run, swallow your pride and go into half down a score.
The 3 position swing along the O-line was a terrible decision. Veach has work to do.

That’s the effect of being aggressive. TB, was happy to run it out, and Andy couldn’t figure out that his D had no answer for TB. Just take your 8 point deficit and be happy you get the ball to start Q3. Like everything else in this game, we just couldn’t get out of our own way. It was a gawdamn mess head to toe on both sides of the ball. Just one of those games.

SupDock · 02-07-2021, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

That’s the effect of being aggressive. TB, was happy to run it out, and Andy couldn’t figure out that his D had no answer for TB. Just take your 8 point deficit and be happy you get the ball to start Q3. Like everything else in this game, we just couldn’t get out of our own way. It was a gawdamn mess head to toe on both sides of the ball. Just one of those games.

I didn't necessarily blame him at the time, but looking back this was huge. You go back into the locker room, calm down the defense who were pissed off about the flags, start fresh.

Megatron96 · 02-07-2021, 10:34 PM

Anyone blaming the defense is a complete and utter moron. They held Tb to just 340 total yards.

340.

that might be the lowest total yards given up in a game for this defense all season. Maybe the lowest ever in a playoff game by any Chiefs defense in the last 40 years.

4-12 on 3rd down.

0-1 on 4th down.

The Chiefs defense did their part to win this game. Go **** yourself sideways if you think our defense let the team down tonight. They came out and played their asses off.

**dirk digler** · 02-07-2021, 10:36 PM

Some of this was definitely on the coaching. Hill said tonight they prepared for TB playing man and Bowles beat them.

Chiefshrink · 02-07-2021, 10:37 PM

Always protect your Lamborghini QB. Bellichek did this for TB and it paid HUGE Dividends.

Megatron96 · 02-07-2021, 10:38 PM

9 different OL combinations this season. It finally caught up to us. Most teams wouldn't have been able to string together all the wins this team did losing just one T. I really thought that we'd find a way to scheme around the loss of Fish and Schwartz, but reality caught up to us. Btw, just fyi, no team has ever won a SB after losing both their starting Ts.

scho63 · 02-07-2021, 10:38 PM

I've squawked about this since we started posting about the game. I was deathly afraid of their pass rush. Our Online got abused like a 90 pound pedophile his first week in San Quentin Prison.

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Im nervous about the O-line.

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Me too.

I think that's the elephant in the room.

ROYC75 · 02-07-2021, 10:42 PM

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It was so weird. We knew we were weak at O-Line. Where were the Jet Sweeps? Where were the screens? The rollouts? Hell, where were the adjustments?

Just such an odd game. It's been so long since I've seen Andy Reid get out-coached this badly. Something so fishy about it.

I was screaming all night this, hit more quick slants or seam routes! Failure to run the ball more was a major no no!

OK Brett Veach, now let's fix this OL for the future!

chiefzilla1501 · 02-07-2021, 10:43 PM

I kind of get what you're saying but at the same time this ain't it.

You can't plan around two OL opting out then three starting OL missing out. Reid made it work really really well with all that until fisher went out. So yeah there is obviously a point where the talent bites it so hard even a genius like Andy can't overcome. But if you get upset about a team whose backups don't perform in a super bowl I think youre reaching.

Our starters would have annihilated Tampa. Our banged up starters WITH Eric Fisher would have been in this.

Iconic · 02-07-2021, 10:43 PM

Yeah I'd say so. I'm pretty disappointed with the game plan and the coaches. I think they lost us the game more than our O-Line an WRs. Tampa practically sat in two-high safety shells the entire game and we had no answer besides Kelce doing his usual improve underneath. Which is fine and all but you can't make that your entire ****ing offense.

Just a total shit show from the coaching staff if you ask me. They flat out looked unprepared.

kcclone · 02-07-2021, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

Yeah I'd say so. I'm pretty disappointed with the game plan and the coaches. I think they lost us the game more than our O-Line an WRs. Tampa practically sat in two-high safety shells the entire game and we had no answer besides Kelce doing his usual improve underneath. Which is fine and all but you can't make that your entire ****ing offense.

Just a total shit show from the coaching staff if you ask me. They flat out looked unprepared.

It started with an assistant coach striking two cars and (possibly) fatally wounding a 5 year old, because he couldn't help himself from boozing 72 hours from the Super Bowl.

Jerm · 02-07-2021, 10:46 PM

The most startling thing to me was the complete lack of adjustments....

It was like we just threw our hands up and said hey eventually the same things will work even though it’s apparent they won’t.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 02-07-2021, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

Anyone blaming the defense is a complete and utter moron. They held Tb to just 340 total yards.

340.

that might be the lowest total yards given up in a game for this defense all season. Maybe the lowest ever in a playoff game by any Chiefs defense in the last 40 years.

4-12 on 3rd down.

0-1 on 4th down.

The Chiefs defense did their part to win this game. Go **** yourself sideways if you think our defense let the team down tonight. They came out and played their asses off.

^this^ they kept us in it the first half despite some God awful calls, and a ****ing punter who sucks dick...

IowaHawkeyeChief · 02-07-2021, 10:50 PM

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The most startling thing to me was the complete lack of adjustments....

It was like we just threw our hands up and said hey eventually the same things will work even though it’s apparent they won’t.

? We adjusted. We moved the ball fairly well the 2nd half despite pressure and are line being awful. We just dropped the ball on some big unbelievable throws and couldn't get TD's all night after drives. Fisher was probably truly the difference of turning some of those into TD's.

02-07-2021, 09:02 PM
Chris Meck MVP Chris Meck's Avatar Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC	Can we all agree now, that the myth that Reid can scheme around anything is bullshit? The injuries of the offensive line, in the end, were just too much. Even for Mahomes. They ran a Tampa 2 to take away the big plays, and we couldn't pass block, and we couldn't run the ball consistently. You still have to block. No matter what playmakers you have. And defensively, the defensive front 7 is need of an infusion of talent too. The Chiefs need another force up front. Maybe Gay is the upgrade at LB, maybe we need another. But I don't want to hear any more horseshit about how we shouldn't spend draft resources on the offensive line. Even Mahomes is still human. Exceptional, yes. But human.
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02-07-2021, 09:56 PM	#16
Chief Northman MVP Chief Northman's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Canada	Hated the timeouts the last bit of Q2. Let the clock run, swallow your pride and go into half down a score. The 3 position swing along the O-line was a terrible decision. Veach has work to do.
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02-07-2021, 10:34 PM	#19
Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Megatron96's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Phoenix, AZ	Anyone blaming the defense is a complete and utter moron. *They held Tb to just 340 total yards.* *340.* that might be the lowest total yards given up in a game for this defense all season. Maybe the lowest ever in a playoff game by any Chiefs defense in the last 40 years. 4-12 on 3rd down. 0-1 on 4th down. The Chiefs defense did their part to win this game. Go **** yourself sideways if you think our defense let the team down tonight. They came out and played their asses off.
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02-07-2021, 10:36 PM	#20
dirk digler Please squeeze dirk digler's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO	Some of this was definitely on the coaching. Hill said tonight they prepared for TB playing man and Bowles beat them.
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Chiefshrink Replaced by a future HOFer !! Chiefshrink's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: donkey land	Always protect your Lamborghini QB. Bellichek did this for TB and it paid HUGE Dividends.
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Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Megatron96's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Phoenix, AZ	9 different OL combinations this season. It finally caught up to us. Most teams wouldn't have been able to string together all the wins this team did losing just one T. I really thought that we'd find a way to scheme around the loss of Fish and Schwartz, but reality caught up to us. Btw, just fyi, no team has ever won a SB after losing both their starting Ts.
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02-07-2021, 10:43 PM	#25
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008	I kind of get what you're saying but at the same time this ain't it. You can't plan around two OL opting out then three starting OL missing out. Reid made it work really really well with all that until fisher went out. So yeah there is obviously a point where the talent bites it so hard even a genius like Andy can't overcome. But if you get upset about a team whose backups don't perform in a super bowl I think youre reaching. Our starters would have annihilated Tampa. Our banged up starters WITH Eric Fisher would have been in this.
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02-07-2021, 10:43 PM	#26
Iconic It's just a ride. Iconic's Avatar Join Date: Dec 2010	Yeah I'd say so. I'm pretty disappointed with the game plan and the coaches. I think they lost us the game more than our O-Line an WRs. Tampa practically sat in two-high safety shells the entire game and we had no answer besides Kelce doing his usual improve underneath. Which is fine and all but you can't make that your entire ****ing offense. Just a total shit show from the coaching staff if you ask me. They flat out looked unprepared.
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02-07-2021, 10:46 PM	#28
Jerm Mahomes > God Jerm's Avatar Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Clinton, MO	The most startling thing to me was the complete lack of adjustments.... It was like we just threw our hands up and said hey eventually the same things will work even though it’s apparent they won’t.
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