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Old 09-21-2021, 08:08 PM  
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Old 10-11-2021, 10:05 PM   #316
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While he's whining, Honey Kitty needs to look in the mirror.
he had a chance several times to legally light up Allen and chose not to. He has changed and or others just want it more now.
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Old 10-12-2021, 03:19 AM   #317
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he had a chance several times to legally light up Allen and chose not to. He has changed and or others just want it more now.
He's lost his edge perhaps...
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Old 10-12-2021, 11:31 AM   #318
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Or he's making business decisions during a contract year, though if he pulls a disappearing act this season ala Clark I can't imagine that's going to help his next contract too much.
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Old 10-12-2021, 12:14 PM   #319
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*drafts biggest steal in entire draft*

****ing Brut Varsity can't draft!!!!
I give credit to Cassidy Kaminsky for Trey Smith.
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Old 10-12-2021, 12:16 PM   #320
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I give credit to Cassidy Kaminsky for Trey Smith.

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Old 10-12-2021, 03:30 PM   #321
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I think hes done really well drafting in the later rounds. Needs to be better in early rounds and he's lost a lot of picks for guys like mahomes Clark and brown. Needs to go back to dumpster diving which is how we got guys like ward, Pennel, and breeland for dirt cheap.

I also think it's on coaches to ask for the right things. It's no surprise Reid did well with OL and less well with WRs many of whom are serviceable WRs who can block and play STs. Just as it's no surprise spags did well with CBs but goes after slow plodding LBs.

But point being, veach has responded really well in the past to crises. Let's see how he responds to this one.
Think this is a very fair point, these things probably have to be seen as a combination. Probably the same with additions like Reed. Veach may have evaluated poorly, but hard to imagine it was his suggestion to move Jones to DE.
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Old 10-15-2021, 08:30 PM   #322
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Old 10-16-2021, 07:49 AM   #323
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Or he's making business decisions during a contract year, though if he pulls a disappearing act this season ala Clark I can't imagine that's going to help his next contract too much.
That's exactly what's going on.
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Old 10-16-2021, 08:49 AM   #324
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There's not a single defensive player I would be upset about cutting or trading this off season
From the Time's Ours podcast.......

The season is 30% over, a month. Who was it? Einstein, that said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
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Old 10-20-2021, 12:50 PM   #325
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Old 10-20-2021, 01:00 PM   #326
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Okay can any DC make this defense work with Neimann and a DL that has no pass rush talent except Jones, who is currently out?

Spags has been really good with the secondary. Sneed, Landlord, Breeland, Fenton, Thornhill and even Hughes in his role.

If your pass rush sucks it won’t matter who your coordinator is
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Old 10-20-2021, 01:23 PM   #327
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Okay can any DC make this defense work with Neimann and a DL that has no pass rush talent except Jones, who is currently out?

Spags has been really good with the secondary. Sneed, Landlord, Breeland, Fenton, Thornhill and even Hughes in his role.

If your pass rush sucks it won’t matter who your coordinator is
We signed a DT that had 10 sacks 2 years ago and is young.
We have a DT that had 16 sacks not too long ago
We paid 100m for a DE that consistently got 10 sacks each year prior to getting to KC
We have 2-3 back 7 players that are highly effective blitzers.

KC is paying elite money to House snd Daly…they’ve been given the pieces, it’s up to them to put them in position to have similar success as they had elsewhere.

Honestly, let’s stop making excuses and start expecting results.
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Old 10-20-2021, 01:46 PM   #328
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We signed a DT that had 10 sacks 2 years ago and is young.
We have a DT that had 16 sacks not too long ago
We paid 100m for a DE that consistently got 10 sacks each year prior to getting to KC
We have 2-3 back 7 players that are highly effective blitzers.

KC is paying elite money to House snd Daly…they’ve been given the pieces, it’s up to them to put them in position to have similar success as they had elsewhere.

Honestly, let’s stop making excuses and start expecting results.
We're also paying pretty elite money to Clark, perhaps he should shoulder some of the blame for his game absolutely disintegrating. I'm not defending the coaches, but Reed hasn't been useful for 2 years and Clark looks like he can barely move - I doubt anyone's getting a lot from him. Players frequently step backwards and it's not always the coaches - wear and tear, time catching up etc. I think there's enough blame to go around - signing Reed, switching Jones, players looking unprepared, players looking just dog-turd. Coaching is part of it but so is talent regression.
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Old 10-20-2021, 02:40 PM   #329
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We signed a DT that had 10 sacks 2 years ago and is young.
We have a DT that had 16 sacks not too long ago
We paid 100m for a DE that consistently got 10 sacks each year prior to getting to KC
We have 2-3 back 7 players that are highly effective blitzers.

KC is paying elite money to House snd Daly…they’ve been given the pieces, it’s up to them to put them in position to have similar success as they had elsewhere.

Honestly, let’s stop making excuses and start expecting results.
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We're also paying pretty elite money to Clark, perhaps he should shoulder some of the blame for his game absolutely disintegrating. I'm not defending the coaches, but Reed hasn't been useful for 2 years and Clark looks like he can barely move - I doubt anyone's getting a lot from him. Players frequently step backwards and it's not always the coaches - wear and tear, time catching up etc. I think there's enough blame to go around - signing Reed, switching Jones, players looking unprepared, players looking just dog-turd. Coaching is part of it but so is talent regression.
Lots of wasted money on that DL.
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Old 10-20-2021, 02:47 PM   #330
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We signed a DT that had 10 sacks 2 years ago and is young.
We have a DT that had 16 sacks not too long ago
We paid 100m for a DE that consistently got 10 sacks each year prior to getting to KC
We have 2-3 back 7 players that are highly effective blitzers.

KC is paying elite money to House snd Daly…they’ve been given the pieces, it’s up to them to put them in position to have similar success as they had elsewhere.

Honestly, let’s stop making excuses and start expecting results.
We also paid Matt Cassel a lot of money and gave him an offensive coach. The finger needs to be pointed at the players too.
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