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View Poll Results: So. Was it Tom or Bill? | |||
Tom Terrific | 47 | 37.60% | |
Hoodie Bill | 16 | 12.80% | |
Unsure | 18 | 14.40% | |
Who cares about that poverty level team in Foxboro? | 44 | 35.20% | |
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10-26-2020, 08:15 PM | #166 |
Three-Pat
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^ This. They finished 7-9 IN SPITE of Winston's 30 INTs. If he threw half as many as he did they are at worst a 10-6 team more likely a 11-5 or 12-4 and making the playoffs. To think their success is all Brady and they are somehow devoid of talent is ridiculous. He has made them better no doubt but they weren't scrubs before.
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10-26-2020, 08:15 PM | #167 | |
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10-26-2020, 08:19 PM | #168 |
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Well they do have a better te. But not better wrs. Quite a bit better rb. But definitely at lot worse defense. Brady would have made them better though.
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10-26-2020, 08:23 PM | #169 |
Going home eventually
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Half the qbs in the league could win with that roster. They lost two games because of Brady play.
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10-26-2020, 08:24 PM | #170 | |
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People who bring up Belichick's Browns seasons don't really look at the facts. The Browns suck. They've always sucked. They've had a whopping 3 winning seasons since 1990: 9 wins under Butch Davis, 10 wins under Romeo Crennel, and 11 wins under Belichick. Before the 11-5 season, Belichick had them winning 6, 7, and 7 games. He was clearly progressing them in the right direction. He beat Bill Parcells and the Patriots in the playoffs. And then the news came out about the team moving and it was all over. |
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10-26-2020, 08:30 PM | #171 | |
'Tis my eye!
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Before Mahomes? Zero. That's exactly my point.
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Look, I'm not saying he's a bad coach. He's a really good coach. But he's still just a coach. Let me make this even more clear since people don't seem to understand it: Coaches DO NOT win championships, QB's do. Period. |
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10-26-2020, 08:31 PM | #172 |
'Tis my eye!
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That's a long list of teams with shit quarterbacks.
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10-26-2020, 08:32 PM | #173 | |
'Tis my eye!
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With Bridgewater, they aren't. It's that simple. |
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10-26-2020, 08:36 PM | #174 | |
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This was a few years before Mahomes was drafted/starting. Bill’s defense was elite and they were a primarily running team. Very similar to last years 49ers. |
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10-26-2020, 08:40 PM | #175 | |
Fish are scared of me
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10-26-2020, 08:40 PM | #176 |
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Didn't Gase have Tannehill? The same guy that's put up the same stats as Mahomes this season or whatever?
CLE is 4-2 with Stefanski, best CLE record in what, 20 years? Alex Smith was statistically the best QB in football in 2017 with Andy Reid, but just slightly better than average in WAS. Coaching is the key to winning. |
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10-26-2020, 08:41 PM | #177 |
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10-26-2020, 08:41 PM | #178 | |
'Tis my eye!
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We're talking about winning championships. |
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10-26-2020, 08:47 PM | #179 |
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Your only example that a great qb wins a championship with a bad coach is 9 td 17 int peyton manning winning with the Broncos. I'm still waiting for a real example of a great qb leading a team with a bad coach.
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10-26-2020, 09:09 PM | #180 |
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Mike McCarthy won one with Aaron Rodgers. Mike McCarthy is a terrible head coach.
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