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Old 01-24-2010, 05:22 PM  
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Joe Montana is still the greatest ever....
....and nothing that Peyton Manning does will ever change that.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:35 PM   #196
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Terry Bradshaw had the best collection of talent around him of time of any QB in NFL history (in relation to their peers).
I would argue the salary cap cheating Whiners had a similar collection of talent when Young won his lone SB. They had an NFC Pro Bowl team on that roster and were cheating the cap big time.
Young could do shit in TB. He threw 11 touchdowns with 21 interceptions while completing fewer than 55% of his passes.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:36 PM   #197
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That's just not true.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:36 PM   #198
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You didn't read what I posted did you?

Go back and read it again before you start crying.
Y'know what? You're right.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:37 PM   #199
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Peyton Manning is by far, the greatest ever.

Peyton and Walsh would have completely owned the 80's and 90's.

Hell, Bill Walsh may even still be alive to win more Super Bowls.
I completely agree.

The guy is amazing.

But I'm rooting for the Saints.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:37 PM   #200
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comparing stats from different eras are garbage. Namath had horrid stats but is considered great because of his famous words & Super Bowl III

I hate stats, they can tell such wrong stories sometimes.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:38 PM   #201
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How about 4 super bowl rings as the starting qb?
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:39 PM   #202
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How about 4 super bowl rings as the starting qb?
Truth telling stat right there....
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:39 PM   #203
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I completely agree.

The guy is amazing.

But I'm rooting for the Saints.
So am I

But that doesn't subtract from Manning's greatness.

I respect Peyton, love his sense of humor, think he's a genuinely a good guy.

But, I'm tired of him.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:39 PM   #204
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:40 PM   #205
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How about 4 super bowl rings as the starting qb?
Rings are won by teams.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:41 PM   #206
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Then all you have left is stats.

Terry won more, in less time, than Eldonk.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:41 PM   #207
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Compared to his peers, in any given year Bradshaw was maybe the 4th or 5th best QB in the league.

1. Dan Fouts
2. Roger Staubach
3. Ken Anderson
4. Ken Stabler/Bert Jones (depending on the year)
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:42 PM   #208
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Rings are won by teams.

MVP's are awarded to players.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:43 PM   #209
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I would argue the salary cap cheating Whiners had a similar collection of talent when Young won his lone SB. They had an NFC Pro Bowl team on that roster and were cheating the cap big time.
Young could do shit in TB. He threw 11 touchdowns with 21 interceptions while completing fewer than 55% of his passes.
Possibly.

I originally qualified it as saying "over a 10 year period" but the sentence was damn near unintelligible.

No QB in the history of the game has had a 10 year run with a cast as comparatively excellent as Bradshaws. As a rookie he wasn't saddled with a rebuild and he never lost any prime years to down teams.

Young really only had the 1 season with the keys to that kind of juggernaut. That said, that guy was an excellent leader, an remarkably accurate passer and added an element of mobility that few have had. Young had the benefit of a great team around him, but he'd have made any team in the NFL better during his peak. His skill-set was truly remarkable.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:43 PM   #210
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Rings are won by teams.

MVP's are won by players.
I think they are even
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