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Old 05-23-2024, 09:26 AM  
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Justice Department sues Ticketmaster and owner Live Nation, alleging illegal monopoly
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“We allege that Live Nation relies on unlawful, anticompetitive conduct to exercise its monopolistic control over the live events industry in the United States at the cost of fans, artists, smaller promoters, and venue operators,” Attorney General Merrick Garland said in a statement. “The result is that fans pay more in fees, artists have fewer opportunities to play concerts, smaller promoters get squeezed out, and venues have fewer real choices for ticketing services. It is time to break up Live Nation-Ticketmaster.”
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Old 05-23-2024, 10:52 AM   #16
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So some of you now want our government to start regulating fees on tickets to sporting and music events?

Good lord that is insane.
I want government to step in when the situation is unfair and the practices of Live Nation are unfair and not in good faith.

So, yeah.
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Old 05-23-2024, 10:54 AM   #17
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Old 05-23-2024, 11:00 AM   #18
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So some of you now want our government to start regulating fees on tickets to sporting and music events?

Good lord that is insane.
Are you trying to be dense, good lord.

Maybe take an Econ 101 class. This has nothing to do with the secondary market or government regulating fees.
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Old 05-23-2024, 11:05 AM   #19
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Are you trying to be dense, good lord.

Maybe take an Econ 101 class. This has nothing to do with the secondary market or government regulating fees.
The only difference between your posts and farts is that farts don't stink all the time.
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Old 05-23-2024, 11:08 AM   #20
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I want government to step in when the situation is unfair and the practices of Live Nation are unfair and not in good faith.

So, yeah.
Are you being forced to buy tickets?

Is anyone?

Are sports and music events mandatory and you HAVE to attend?

It's everyone's right to decide if they want to attend or not and spend the price.

None of the governments business.

Complete overreach
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Old 05-23-2024, 11:11 AM   #21
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The only difference between your posts and farts is that farts don't stink all the time.
FFS man, do you not understand supply/demand and how a monopoly can operate outside the free market controls for costs of goods? It seems that you are not only a dipshit when it comes to phone icons but also economics.
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FFS man, do you not understand supply/demand and how a monopoly can operate outside the free market controls for costs of goods? It seems that you are not only a dipshit when it comes to phone icons but also economics.
So the ONLY company selling tickets is Ticketmaster/Live Nation?

Another know-it-all blowhard.
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Old 05-23-2024, 11:22 AM   #23
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Are you being forced to buy tickets?

Is anyone?

Are sports and music events mandatory and you HAVE to attend?

It's everyone's right to decide if they want to attend or not and spend the price.

None of the governments business.

Complete overreach
There are antitrust laws, The Sherman Antitrust Act... it's literally their business and has been for over 100 years.
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Between the fees and the ticket costs themselves, I've pretty much been priced out of live events. They're simply not worth the cost of admission, no matter what the performance is.
Yeah I took my buddy to the home opener last year. I had to go to see the banner drop. The tickets were so goddamn expensive. I think it was like $1500 just to sit in the lower 3 rows of the upper deck. I'll never do that again.

Which sucks. I'd pay $350 easy to do it this year again. But at the current prices, it goes down as "life experience," not "weekend entertainment."
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So the ONLY company selling tickets is Ticketmaster/Live Nation?

Another know-it-all blowhard.

Yes, in many cases.


That, or secondary market companies like stubhub and seatgeek which do the same thing after mass purchase of tickets as soon as they go on sale.
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So the ONLY company selling tickets is Ticketmaster/Live Nation?

Another know-it-all blowhard.
Do you know what monopoly means? Not the game, the noun.
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Between the fees and the ticket costs themselves, I've pretty much been priced out of live events. They're simply not worth the cost of admission, no matter what the performance is.
Yeah, I pretty much have to ignore the final price of events I really want to attend after all the fees and bullshit or else I'd never attend anything... and there are still plenty of fairly priced concerts out there before fees, it just sucks when that $40 ticket becomes $120 for a pair after fees.

There's definitely a tug of war in my mind between "**** TicketMaster" and allowing them to dictate never seeing a decently priced show (or a not so decently priced sporting event) live again.

Hell, just take away the double dipping of 20% secondary market fees and that would be a huge step forward.
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So the ONLY company selling tickets is Ticketmaster/Live Nation?

Another know-it-all blowhard.
In a lot of cases they are the only option, you fat dumbass. Companies like Stubhub and Seatgeek are secondary sales so you have the additional markup after they have purchased tickets from Ticketmaster.
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In a capitalist society, two things happen:
1. Many competitors should get in the market with better pricing/lower fees.
2. People finally have enough and stop going.

I love it that people will spend $500 a night for a hotel to just sleep while on vacation with stupid resort fees or $75,000 for a new car with dealer fees now over $1,000 in some cases or pay a realtor in the past $50,000 ****ing dollars to sell a house.

These are all choices.......

Different for a single utility company that has an absolute monopoly.
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In a lot of cases they are the only option, you fat dumbass. Companies like Stubhub and Seatgeek are secondary sales so you have the additional markup after they have purchased tickets from Ticketmaster.
Go **** yourself blowhard.

NO ONE IS FORCED TO BUY TICKETS.
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