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08-13-2023, 02:26 PM | #406 |
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It was great when they made two excellent seasons of television in S1 and S2 (the best first two seasons of Trek since TOS), including two incredibly well-produced Gorn-related episodes.
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08-13-2023, 02:31 PM | #407 |
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Why are you guys so unhappy about the Gorn? At least now they’re scary enough and interesting.
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08-13-2023, 02:36 PM | #408 |
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Because they're apparently not enough like the silly 1960s costume version for them (but really it's because they're just looking for something to bitch about at this point).
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08-13-2023, 02:41 PM | #409 |
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Don't wear yourself out dragging that same straw man in from the fields over and over and over again.
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08-13-2023, 02:42 PM | #410 |
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08-13-2023, 02:57 PM | #411 |
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08-13-2023, 03:12 PM | #412 |
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08-13-2023, 03:19 PM | #413 | |
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Do I hate it? No. Was it a good episode? Yes. Will I keep watching the show? Of course. But things that fly in the face of established canon annoy me. Not the first time it's happened (like purple Klingon blood in Star Trek VI, Scotty not thinking Kirk was dead in Relics), and I'm sure it won't be the last. I got over those, and I'll get over this. This franchise is nearly 60 years old, and these things are going to happen. But that doesn't mean I have to like it. And this particular gaffe is really egregious, since they built an entire storyline around it. As Listo and I have both said, several times, had they just made this a newly encountered, different race, we'd have no issues with it at all. |
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08-13-2023, 03:23 PM | #414 |
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08-13-2023, 03:23 PM | #415 |
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What would have been fantastic is if Spock would have built a mortar out of the Cayuga's wreckage and fired a crystal through the Gorn's gut.
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08-13-2023, 03:29 PM | #416 | |
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It is an absurd take considering how effective these episodes are (and the obvious need for updating such a character design for a modern era of television with a modern audience), but it is the position you've taken here for whatever reason. |
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08-13-2023, 03:34 PM | #417 |
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Which makes sense. Strictly upholding the continuity/canon of a 1960s TV show with enormous budgetary restrictions a lifetime ago should probably come second to creating a good television show now.
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As you said, they could have done EXACTLY what they did, told the EXACT same story, called them the "whatever species" and they could have done their story and not messed with the past history at the same time. |
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Ah okay, now it makes more sense. I mean, they did say that they were going to play it a little fast and loose with standard ST canon, so I've just been taking the aberrations for what they're worth. Besides, the original Gorn were kind of silly really. This version is much more interesting as an archenemy. Last edited by Megatron96; 08-14-2023 at 08:48 PM.. |
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08-13-2023, 03:58 PM | #420 | |
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Let me guess. It might be because they wanted to pay homage to TOS but took one look at this 1960s era costume and realized they had to update the character design for 2020s television. Quote:
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