Ant-Man & Wasp: Quantumania ( 2023)

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Teenage kids are disinterested in most everything...unless it involves social media.

Both were very into the movies up through Endgame, and were excited for the new movies.

Any objective observer knows the post Endgame movies have been extremely lacking.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Both were very into the movies up through Endgame, and were excited for the new movies.

Any objective observer knows the post Endgame movies have been extremely lacking.

Yep. And for those that want to point to Super Hero fatigue I had no problem getting hyped for and enjoying the hell out of No Way Home and GOTG3. But I don't have the time or energy for lackluster series and movies and that's unfortunately what Marvel has been churning out for the most part post Endgame.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Yep. And for those that want to point to Super Hero fatigue I had no problem getting hyped for and enjoying the hell out of No Way Home and GOTG3. But I don't have the time or energy for lackluster series and movies and that's unfortunately what Marvel has been churning out for the most part post Endgame.

I don't think it's fatigue, they lost their heavy hitters and didn't replace them. Like it or not they lost Robert Downey Jr and Chris Evans.

The new Captain America movie is being shot right now and should be good since Anthony Mackie is the best actor they have left. But the real issues came when Hemsworth decided to stick around but noticeably enjoys doing the more comedy driven Thor as he flat out said if had continued like the first 2 he was out.

The biggest thing though is Chadwick Boseman dying just hurt them like hell, he was suppose to be the torch carrying character that bridged the gap and well that's gone now.

So we're stuck with secondary characters trying to carry the mantle. They desperately have to get to X-Men and fantastic 4 because right now they have no heavy hitters.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't think it's fatigue, they lost their heavy hitters and didn't replace them. Like it or not they lost Robert Downey Jr and Chris Evans.

The new Captain America movie is being shot right now and should be good since Anthony Mackie is the best actor they have left. But the real issues came when Hemsworth decided to stick around but noticeably enjoys doing the more comedy driven Thor as he flat out said if had continued like the first 2 he was out.

The biggest thing though is Chadwick Boseman dying just hurt them like hell, he was suppose to be the torch carrying character that bridged the gap and well that's gone now.

So we're stuck with secondary characters trying to carry the mantle. They desperately have to get to X-Men and fantastic 4 because right now they have no heavy hitters.

If they go through with the rumor about who they are casting for Thing (Mila Kunis), Fantastic 4 is going to likely be yet another dud.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

If they go through with the rumor about who they are casting for Thing (Mila Kunis), Fantastic 4 is going to likely be yet another dud.

Sounds like that rumor is false? I sincerely hope that it is false.

https://www.joblo.com/fantastic-four...nis-the-thing/

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't think it's fatigue, they lost their heavy hitters and didn't replace them. Like it or not they lost Robert Downey Jr and Chris Evans.

The new Captain America movie is being shot right now and should be good since Anthony Mackie is the best actor they have left. But the real issues came when Hemsworth decided to stick around but noticeably enjoys doing the more comedy driven Thor as he flat out said if had continued like the first 2 he was out.

The biggest thing though is Chadwick Boseman dying just hurt them like hell, he was suppose to be the torch carrying character that bridged the gap and well that's gone now.

So we're stuck with secondary characters trying to carry the mantle. They desperately have to get to X-Men and fantastic 4 because right now they have no heavy hitters.

It's mostly a quality issue for me. It's not as if Chris Evans, Chris Hensworth, or Chris Pratt were a household name prior to their movies. They just happened to star in quality flicks that pleased the masses. Phase 4 movies have largely stunk aside from Spiderman and probably Guardians 3 (which I will finally get to see this weekend).

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

It's mostly a quality issue for me. It's not as if Chris Evans, Chris Hensworth, or Chris Pratt were a household name prior to their movies. They just happened to star in quality flicks that pleased the masses. Phase 4 movies have largely stunk aside from Spiderman and probably Guardians 3 (which I will finally get to see this weekend).

It wasn't even so much the actors, they lost the characters. Thor and Captain America are huge characters in Marvel.

They are 100% into their eh whatever characters at this point...No one cares about the ****in eternals and antman is a secondary character at best.

They have essentially ran through,

Captain America, even though that'll get the reboot with Falcon and should still be at worst a solid franchise
Iron Man
Thor is now at 4 movies even though he's still around
Guardians of the Galaxy
Spiderman
Ant-Man who somehow got 3 movies
Black Panther-outside circumstances

This is why until they get to X-Men and Fantastic 4 they have nothing left, I mean they could do planet Hulk I guess but they apparently don't think that's a sell as a movie. They have really torn through basically all of their heavy hitters to the point that there is nothing left or the actor is moving on. I mean shit they're remaking Blade.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It wasn't even so much the actors, they lost the characters. Thor and Captain America are huge characters in Marvel.

They are 100% into their eh whatever characters at this point...No one cares about the ****in eternals and antman is a secondary character at best.

They have essentially ran through,

Captain America, even though that'll get the reboot with Falcon and should still be at worst a solid franchise
Iron Man
Thor is now at 4 movies even though he's still around
Guardians of the Galaxy
Spiderman
Ant-Man who somehow got 3 movies
Black Panther-outside circumstances

This is why until they get to X-Men and Fantastic 4 they have nothing left, I mean they could do planet Hulk I guess but they apparently don't think that's a sell as a movie. They have really torn through basically all of their heavy hitters to the point that there is nothing left or the actor is moving on. I mean shit they're remaking Blade.

Pffft. There's countless characters they could turn into huge stars if they did it correctly.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Yep. And for those that want to point to Super Hero fatigue I had no problem getting hyped for and enjoying the hell out of No Way Home and GOTG3. But I don't have the time or energy for lackluster series and movies and that's unfortunately what Marvel has been churning out for the most part post Endgame.

I was so into Dr Strange in the M/M but goddamnit did it disappoint. God that pissed me off.

Loki season 1 was actually not bad. I enjoyed it

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Yep. And for those that want to point to Super Hero fatigue I had no problem getting hyped for and enjoying the hell out of No Way Home and GOTG3. But I don't have the time or energy for lackluster series and movies and that's unfortunately what Marvel has been churning out for the most part post Endgame.

It took a lot of bad decisions for Marvel to fall to where it is. And I haven't seen any signs that the decision making is improving.