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So much fail in that franchise they need an official thread like the Donkeys.

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Old 10-31-2022, 12:12 PM   #1771
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Old 10-31-2022, 12:19 PM   #1772
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Old 10-31-2022, 12:20 PM   #1773
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Old 10-31-2022, 12:25 PM   #1774
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They, like the Saints, should start selling off resources or anything not bolted down. But they won't.
That's the thing, though - most of these guys are "bolted down" due to the structure of their contracts.

What would be truly fascinating would be a QB trade. I wonder if the Falcons, given that they have some real weapons in place, would be interested in a deal for Carr and what the cost might be.

Mariota won't do anything for Oakland - but would Ridder? I mean if the Raiders could get Carr moved for Ridder and a 2nd, they'd be crazy not to, IMO.

And the Falcons, given the soft-ass NFC South, would have to be viewed as favorites the moment Carr hit the roster. Because unlike Mariota, he could/would put Pitts and London to decent use.

I mean that obviously won't happen for a hundred different reasons, but damn it'd be interesting. Move Jacobs for a 3rd rounder and see if you could get Antonio Gibson back as a potential rehabilitation candidate for a 5th? He's still cheap next season.

And you have a half a season to find out if you have anything but a quality backup in Ridder. If you don't, you've ensured that 1st rounder is pretty damn high and you can move for your QBOTF.

C'mooooooon, NFL owners. Just let me run a team for a bit. Pleeeeeeaaaaase. I'll even take the shitty ol' Raiders.
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Old 10-31-2022, 12:28 PM   #1775
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That's the thing, though - most of these guys are "bolted down" due to the structure of their contracts.

What would be truly fascinating would be a QB trade. I wonder if the Falcons, given that they have some real weapons in place, would be interested in a deal for Carr and what the cost might be.

Mariota won't do anything for Oakland - but would Ridder? I mean if the Raiders could get Carr moved for Ridder and a 2nd, they'd be crazy not to, IMO.

And the Falcons, given the soft-ass NFC South, would have to be viewed as favorites the moment Carr hit the roster. Because unlike Mariota, he could/would put Pitts and London to decent use.

I mean that obviously won't happen for a hundred different reasons, but damn it'd be interesting. Move Jacobs for a 3rd rounder and see if you could get Antonio Gibson back as a potential rehabilitation candidate for a 5th? He's still cheap next season.

And you have a half a season to find out if you have anything but a quality backup in Ridder. If you don't, you've ensured that 1st rounder is pretty damn high and you can move for your QBOTF.

C'mooooooon, NFL owners. Just let me run a team for a bit. Pleeeeeeaaaaase. I'll even take the shitty ol' Raiders.
Why would the Falcons give up on Ridder though?
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Old 10-31-2022, 12:36 PM   #1776
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Why would the Falcons give up on Ridder though?
They don't have that much in him; a 3rd round pick.

And they evidently don't think enough of him right now (despite by all accounts being a very smart player) to displace a complete bum in Marcus Mariota.

So I don't get the impression they're in love with the guy.

It's way too Maddeny to ever happen, but I'd really like to see what that team could do with credible QB play.

I guess the question the Falcons have to ask themselves is if this isn't a window OPENING for them and if so, could Ridder be Carr with a dick cap hit as soon as next season.

That might well be the case. It ain't like the NFC South is gonna be orders of magnitude better with the Saints still digging out of cap hell and likely to lose Kamara and the Panthers/Bucs still not having a QB.

You may be right - they may be smarter to just ride it out and hope for 2022 while planning for 2023. But if they aren't high on Ridder, they've shown themselves to be feisty enough to likely keep them out of the top part of the draft. In which case, isn't Carr a really nice option going forward for them?

It comes down to how they view Ridder and right now they view him as something less than Mariota. Which is...odd.
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Old 10-31-2022, 12:36 PM   #1777
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That's the thing, though - most of these guys are "bolted down" due to the structure of their contracts.

What would be truly fascinating would be a QB trade. I wonder if the Falcons, given that they have some real weapons in place, would be interested in a deal for Carr and what the cost might be.

Mariota won't do anything for Oakland - but would Ridder? I mean if the Raiders could get Carr moved for Ridder and a 2nd, they'd be crazy not to, IMO.

And the Falcons, given the soft-ass NFC South, would have to be viewed as favorites the moment Carr hit the roster. Because unlike Mariota, he could/would put Pitts and London to decent use.

I mean that obviously won't happen for a hundred different reasons, but damn it'd be interesting. Move Jacobs for a 3rd rounder and see if you could get Antonio Gibson back as a potential rehabilitation candidate for a 5th? He's still cheap next season.

And you have a half a season to find out if you have anything but a quality backup in Ridder. If you don't, you've ensured that 1st rounder is pretty damn high and you can move for your QBOTF.

C'mooooooon, NFL owners. Just let me run a team for a bit. Pleeeeeeaaaaase. I'll even take the shitty ol' Raiders.
You would be a fantastic GM but like George Carlin used to say, “There’s a club and you ain’t in it.”
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They don't have that much in him; a 3rd round pick.

And they evidently don't think enough of him right now (despite by all accounts being a very smart player) to displace a complete bum in Marcus Mariota.

So I don't get the impression they're in love with the guy.

It's way too Maddeny to ever happen, but I'd really like to see what that team could do with credible QB play.

I guess the question the Falcons have to ask themselves is if this isn't a window OPENING for them and if so, could Ridder be Carr with a dick cap hit as soon as next season.

That might well be the case. It ain't like the NFC South is gonna be orders of magnitude better with the Saints still digging out of cap hell and likely to lose Kamara and the Panthers/Bucs still not having a QB.

You may be right - they may be smarter to just ride it out and hope for 2022 while planning for 2023. But if they aren't high on Ridder, they've shown themselves to be feisty enough to likely keep them out of the top part of the draft. In which case, isn't Carr a really nice option going forward for them?

It comes down to how they view Ridder and right now they view him as something less than Mariota. Which is...odd.
If anyone should be trading for Carr....it's Indy. It stinks of a move that they would make.
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Old 10-31-2022, 12:47 PM   #1779
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If anyone should be trading for Carr....it's Indy. It stinks of a move that they would make.
Indy needs to suck it up and take a stab at the draft for one.

I just saw Pittman put up the worst drop I've seen since Orson Charles - for all the issues they've had at QB, there's a real chance that they just don't have the skill position players they need to excel.
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Old 10-31-2022, 12:50 PM   #1780
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Indy needs to suck it up and take a stab at the draft for one.

I just saw Pittman put up the worst drop I've seen since Orson Charles - for all the issues they've had at QB, there's a real chance that they just don't have the skill position players they need to excel.
Ehlinger almost certainly isn’t the answer, but that was an absolutely perfect pass. Pittman had plenty of room to run too. Plus they still had a timeout.

Pittman catches that, and the Colts have a real chance of winning.
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Sweet! Maybe we can put a nice streak ala donks on them too!
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If anyone should be trading for Carr....it's Indy. It stinks of a move that they would make.
Oh God, PLEASE!
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Can't trade Carr for anything. He has exactly two winning seasons in 8 years. And let's be honest, he has just way too many games like yesterday's where he just can't lead a team to even be competitive against a team that doesn't even have a QB.

And this time he even had an All-World WR in Adams, and still couldn't even lead his team to any points. The savage thing to do would be to just cut him if they can't get anything at all for him and get anyone in the building that makes their team more competitive. I say that because right this second I don't know which QBs are really available in 2023.
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