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Old 04-12-2022, 06:46 PM   #11
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This is tough too Crow. I wish there was a way we could get Johnson, Wyatt, Pickens, and Williams from your other thread without spending too much capital from next year, but we may have too to pull that off. This one saves on next years picks, but doesn't appeal to me quite as much.

Wyatt just looks so much more explosive than Jones at DT. And Williams looks like the perfect compliment to Johnson at the DE spot. If we only came out with those 4 players out of the first two days of the draft, I think I would be a happy camper.
I think that will depend on how guys fall. Teams spent time with Wyatt not just because he's good but he had some off-the-field stuff to look into and gauge his character. I mean, an altercation with a woman that led to charges that were dropped for family violence, criminal trespass, and damage to property is kind of serious and it was in 2020. Here's a link to a report on the story: https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...eanor-charges/

Depending on how teams view that could be the difference between him flirting with the top 15 and going near the end of the 1st, or later. He didn't strike or commit any crime directly against the woman but trying to kick her door in may not sit with some teams. With the Chiefs though, Andy gives everyone a chance and he's a legit talent. Absolutely the best DT in the class.

Williams is a guy where I don't really know where he's going to end up. His charge wasn't overly serious and also dropped but it was an offense directly against a woman. Now, based on that type of charge he likely grabbed her ass, her snatch, or some titty and she didn't want that happening. I don't know what it was for sure and it really doesn't matter. The issue is more about it is one step away from raping someone and you don't want that to be a thing. Like Wyatt, I think Williams definitely learned from it, and now that he has a son whom he wants to be a role model is pretty huge. I don't know the dynamics of his relationship with the mother though.

As for football itself with Williams, he's incredibly gifted athletically and he can be very talented on the field. The problem is he takes plays, and series, off. He's not the high motor type you like to see. I think that is the reason his draft grade is suffering and not as much with the off-the-field. He has a 1st round pedigree with 3rd round habits. So, I don't know how teams are going to view him. It seems there is not a consensus on him from the pundits. Some have him ranked in the 40's, some have him in the 90's. There's way too much volatility in his stock for me to say, yeah that looks like a reasonable spot to mock him. If I had to guess, he'll be there at 62 but not there at 94.

So what's all this mean to me? I think you're not getting all 4 guys so you have to pick. I think you'd have to get up to 21 for Wyatt or the Packers are grabbing him at 22. A trade to 21 likely means losing 62 as part of the deal. You can take Pickens at 30 or wait and see if he's there at 50. I don't know if he's there at 50. I have us moving up to 47 for him and that may not get it done. His stock is a little volatile too. Might have to get in front of Chicago at 39. Hell, any team picking in the top 12 picks of the 2nd could take him depending on what many of them do in the 1st.

Honestly, if KC ran a 3-4 right now I think their draft positioning is set up so well to get guys to fit that defensive scheme. I'd probably move up for Wyatt at 21, grab Ebiketie at 30, and then grab Jackson at 50. Figure out WR later. And hell, maybe they do that anyhow and run a slightly undersized 4-3 group or pick Mafe at 30. Wyatt, Mafe, and Jackson wouldn't be a bad haul without breaking the draft pick bank. You're just grabbing WRs in the 3rd and 4th at that point.

Edit: Sorry for the book!!! Just trying to get alot of thoughts out there.
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