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Old 11-23-2021, 12:45 PM  
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*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***

Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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Old 03-27-2022, 06:10 AM   #481
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If Karlaftis falls to 29 I'll have a ****ing heart attack and then I'll eat my hat
Why? He'll be good at best.

He doesn't have the explosive 10 yard burst like Tamba & Jared. He pushed around "light in the pants " OTs.

If you want a "try hard" white dude go for Cam Thomas.

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Old 03-27-2022, 07:44 AM   #482
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Lot of excellent recent mocks in here. Nice job, guys.

Except Tamba Berry. You know why...

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Old 03-27-2022, 09:07 AM   #483
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Lot of excellent recent mocks in here. Nice job, guys.

Except Tamba Berry. You know why...

That is a great draft lol
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Old 03-27-2022, 09:37 AM   #484
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That is a great draft lol

Other than spending the highest pick on a luxury, not a need, and ending up light at DE. Yup!
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Old 03-27-2022, 10:36 AM   #485
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29.

Andrew Booth Jr.
CB Clemson
KC
33.

David Ojabo
EDGE Michigan
trade icon
KC
50.

Cameron Thomas
EDGE San Diego State
KC
51.

Christian Watson
WR North Dakota State
trade icon
KC
62.

Skyy Moore
WR Western Michigan
KC
103.

Jerome Ford
RB Cincinnati
KC
121.

Chris Hinton
DT Michigan
KC
135.

Wan'Dale Robinson
WR Kentucky
KC
233.

Kana'i Mauga
LB USC
KC
243.

Josh Blackwell
CB Duke
KC
251.

Logan Bruss
OT Wisconsin
KC
259.

Thomas Booker
DT Stanford
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Old 03-27-2022, 12:18 PM   #486
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PFN 7th round mock.

Pick 29: Kaiir Elam, CB, Florida. Tall instinctual corner to replace Ward. BPA here.

Pick 30: David Ojabo, DE, Michigan. Value pick and Ojabo can RS while DL can be picked later in the draft.

Pick 50: Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn State. Elite body control with great route running skills. Can take over as Mahomes go-to guy once Kelce declines.

Pick 62: Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss. Freak athlete at the DE position. Hopefully Ingram can be resigned so Williams can be worked into the rotation.

Pick 94: Kerby Joesph, S, Illinois. Athlete at S for Spags to scheme around.

Pick 103: Trade 103 to SF for 105 and 187.

Pick 105: James Cook, RB, Georgia. Swiss army knife RB with a bit better athletic profile than CEH. Low miles due to Georgia also having White.

Pick 121: Wan'Dale Robinson, WR, Kentucky. Not as blindingly fast as Tyreek but very similar. Open field nightmare.

Pick 135: Leo Chenal, LB, Wisconsin. LB for 3 LB sets.

Pick 187: Hassan Haskins, RB, Michigan. Big short yardage and goal line back. Potential to line him up as FB in some situations for extra trickeration.

Pick 233: Jean Delance, OT, Florida. Swing tackle of the future.

Pick 243: Jermaine Wallet, CB, VT. Project CB.

Pick 251: Noah Ellis, DT, Idaho. Big run stuffing DT.

Pick 259: Tanner Conner, WR, idaho State. Tall WR, small school, very raw.
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Old 03-27-2022, 12:47 PM   #487
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This draft can go in so many directions. I can’t wait to see what Veach gets.

29. Drake London WR USC
30. Perrinan Winfrey DT Oklahoma
50. David Ojabo EDGE Michigan
62. Cameron Thomas EDGE San Diego State
94. Skyy Moore WR Western Michigan
103. Calvin Austin III WR Memphis
121. Zyon McCollum CB Sam Houston State
135. Alontae Taylor CB Tennessee
233. Amare Barno EDGE Virginia Tech
243. Kalon Barnes CB Baylor
251. Jaylen Watson CB Washington State
259. Spencer Burford OT UTSA
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Old 03-27-2022, 03:58 PM   #488
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I really want to trade up to get a DE we love and then draft Winfrey. DL would be upgraded in a huge way
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Old 03-27-2022, 05:54 PM   #489
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29.

Jermaine Johnson
EDGE Florida State
KC
30.

Kaiir Elam
CB Florida
KC
50.

David Ojabo
EDGE Michigan
KC
62.

Travis Jones
DT Connecticut
KC
94.

Justyn Ross
WR Clemson
KC
103.

James Cook
RB Georgia
KC
121.

Zyon McCollum
CB Sam Houston State
KC
136.

Smoke Monday
S Auburn
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KC
209.

Olakunle Fatukasi
LB Rutgers
trade icon
KC
233.

Bamidele Olaseni
OT Utah
KC
243.

Kyler McMichael
CB North Carolina
KC
251.

Zach VanValkenburg
EDGE Iowa
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Old 03-27-2022, 06:36 PM   #490
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Ross is trash. No way am I taking him.
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Old 03-27-2022, 06:41 PM   #491
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Yea, after that awful Pro Day, I’m not taking Ross until day 3, and I’d be pretty disappointed if he were the only WR we drafted.
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Old 03-27-2022, 06:58 PM   #492
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Ross is trash. No way am I taking him.
Calvin Austin went the pick before him and I was kinda stuck at that point from not selecting a WR yet.
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Yea, after that awful Pro Day, I’m not taking Ross until day 3, and I’d be pretty disappointed if he were the only WR we drafted.
Yeah. Pretty ugly. He’s off my board in these, going forward.
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Old 03-27-2022, 08:12 PM   #493
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Stupid good value here

29.

George Karlaftis
EDGE Purdue
KC
32.

Perrion Winfrey
DT Oklahoma
trade icon
KC
50.

Cameron Thomas
EDGE San Diego State
KC
62.

John Metchie III
WR Alabama
KC
66.

Skyy Moore
WR Western Michigan
trade icon
KC
103.

James Cook
RB Georgia
KC
121.

Zyon McCollum
CB Sam Houston State
KC
135.

Alontae Taylor
CB Tennessee
KC
233.

Logan Bruss
OT Wisconsin
KC
243.

Kana'i Mauga
LB USC
KC
251.

Chance Campbell
LB Mississippi
KC
259.

Nasir Greer
S Wake Forest
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Old 03-27-2022, 08:37 PM   #494
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29.

Treylon Burks
WR Arkansas
KC
30.

Devonte Wyatt
DT Georgia
KC
50.

Tariq Woolen
CB UTSA
KC
62.

Kingsley Enagbare
EDGE South Carolina
KC
94.

Calvin Austin III
WR Memphis
KC
103.

Isaiah Thomas
EDGE Oklahoma
KC
121.

Troy Andersen
LB Montana State
KC
135.

Nick Cross
S Maryland
KC
233.

Tycen Anderson
S Toledo
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243.

Chris Steele
CB USC
KC
251.

Luke Wattenberg
OC Washington
KC
259.

Noah Elliss
DT Idaho
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Old 03-27-2022, 09:20 PM   #495
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I don’t see us taking 12 picks. Where will the trade be?
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