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08-13-2020, 03:32 PM | |
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Fisher and Schwartz finally get some love from PFF
"The NFL season is right around the corner, signaling that it's time for us to debut our position rankings. And what better place to start than down in the trenches at offensive tackle? The last thing coaching staffs want in the modern-day NFL is a tackle who consistently ends up in the lap of the quarterback. Poor play at the position is a hindrance to both the quarterback — especially less-experienced ones — and the offense as a whole. That is part of the reason why 25% of the top 20 picks in the 2020 NFL Draft were offensive tackles. Nonetheless, these 25 tackles have put their offenses in positions to consistently succeed.
1. MITCHELL SCHWARTZ, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS While Schwartz wasn't named a top-10 offensive tackle by coaches, executives and his peers across the NFL, numbers never lie. And for that reason, Schwartz rings in at the top spot in our eyes. " Read the rest of the article here: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking...020-nfl-season |
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08-14-2020, 10:48 AM | #16 |
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PFF is a joke. Please stop using them
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08-14-2020, 10:53 AM | #17 |
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Fisher is an above average tackle who struggles against power rushers.
Nobody should have been surprised Bosa handled him. |
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08-14-2020, 12:02 PM | #18 | |
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He got so damn good, so damn fast. That playoff run was just unreal. And there's really not a weakness in his game. He can beat you with power, speed or technique. He can set the edge. I'd imagine the !@#$ing guy can drop into coverage on zone blitzes if he needs to. He might be the most complete defensive player in the sport right now. Just an absolute horse. And as he gets a little older, he'll probably end up playing around 15-20 lbs heavier than he is now and I just don't know how you stop that. A 285 lb missile w/ those levers and those hand-skills...lord. |
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08-14-2020, 12:10 PM | #19 | |
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08-14-2020, 12:21 PM | #20 |
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08-14-2020, 01:06 PM | #21 |
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The purely objective football fan in me wishes we would have seen a few matchups between Schwartz and Bosa - the elite chess matches that Kollmann highlighted between Schwartz and Watt this year we’re just a joy to watch (while Kollmann made me realize “Holy **** watching lineman is cool”).
The Niners probably made the right call by sticking Bosa on Fish through the game, but I have to wonder how it would have gone had they stuck Armstead (with his power) on Fish while putting Bosa on Schwartz. The Chiefs fan in me is thrilled they stuck with Dee Ford. Ford was going to be overmatched on either side of the line and by the end of the game it didn’t even seem like he wanted to even touch Mitch anymore. |
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08-14-2020, 01:07 PM | #22 | |
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You're not wrong though. Nick Bosa is disgustingly good. I wasnt ashamed of Fisher. Bosa is just a better rusher than fisher is a blocker... and hes far from lonely in that. Nick isnt that polished. Yet. That's the scary part. Glad Joey isnt that good... and joey bosa is pretty good! |
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08-14-2020, 01:09 PM | #23 |
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08-14-2020, 01:12 PM | #24 |
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He has elite speed and power and usually uses his speed as a decoy before obliterating fools on the inside.
I think we as a board underestimated him a bit because he had an early season injury and his stats looked fairly comparable to his brother (who Schwartz just owns). But good lord, he likely had the most dominant performance out of any player in the SB (not the most valuable, but the most dominant). I think Schwartz is a close second and Jones is third. Pat I would place fourth, but because he’s Patrick Mahomes he can throw two INT’s and still be by far the most valuable player on the field. |
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08-14-2020, 03:56 PM | #25 |
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Notice how Fisher was able to handle Bosa at the end of the game when they went no huddle and the quick pace took enough of an edge off Bosa?
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01-24-2021, 10:14 PM | #26 |
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Wish we had both of these guys for the Super Bowl.
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01-24-2021, 11:09 PM | #27 |
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If Fisher has a torn Achilles, his availability to start next season will be in doubt.
The Chiefs may need two new starting tackles at least to start 2021. Crazy. |
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01-26-2021, 12:26 PM | #28 |
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01-26-2021, 12:32 PM | #29 |
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Hopefully Niang can fill one of those spots if needed. It will be interesting see what they do with him. I know there was a lot of talk about whether he’d be a guard or a tackle at this level. With the injury depletion at tackle this year I wonder if they’ll focus him more on that or if the plan to switch to guard will still be in play.
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01-26-2021, 02:04 PM | #30 |
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Niang on the left, Remmers on the right. Draft and develop more talent.
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