***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[mr. tegu]

Some really interesting information about the malaria stuff here. Pretty technical as well.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/...malarial-drug/

Then there is this:

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Some really interesting information about the malaria stuff here. Pretty technical as well.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/...malarial-drug/

Then there is this:

something smells fishy in Russia.no crayons?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Some really interesting information about the malaria stuff here. Pretty technical as well.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/...malarial-drug/

Then there is this:

Holy shit...

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

It isn't false, considering that 93% of the tests are coming back negative right now people are being tested.

False.

No one can draw any conclusions in a country of 330+ million people when there's been so little testing done and the ONLY people that are getting tested are those showing advanced symptoms.

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

But there isn't a single country on earth that could test Millions within this time frame.

The USA after removing the FDA and the CDC from the problem has DRAMATICALLY ramped up its capacity for testing and processing. Again, we are a massive country that is spread out. Unlike South Korea were almost a majority live in ONE CITY.

Making excuses doesn't improve the situation or somehow justify your opinion.

The bottom line is that we just don't know very much at this point in time because not even 5% of the population has been tested, let alone, 25% or 50%.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by TLO

Holy shit...

Eh - it's not accurate.

Brazil has over 300 cases and has declared a state of emergency, for instance.

There may be something to it, but that map has taken some liberties.

[O.city]

Interesting

So that one talks about prophylactic use.

[TLO]

Game. Changer.

(I fully know this could crash and burn and not end up working at all but **** you I'm allowing myself to be hopeful)

[Perineum Ripper]

Originally Posted by Monticore

How much TP do you have.

I prefer wet wipes for a fresh butthole. I think there is one roll in the other bathroom. Will sell for the right price, no lowballs, I know what I got

[KCUnited]

What does a stay in place mean for the financial industry, like say closing on a home? Any idea?

Tribune says Pritzker is going to order it for IL tomorrow and I'm scheduled to close on 3/30.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Eh - it's not accurate.

Brazil has over 300 cases and has declared a state of emergency, for instance.

There may be something to it, but that map has taken some liberties.

NEEDS MORE CHLOROQUINE

[Discuss Thrower]

.. what sense does it make to bailout small businesses like independent movie theaters or concert venues if tight capacity limits and social distancing are going to be in place for the foreseeable future?

[mr. tegu]

So those maps are a little too simplistic but others show similar things. Sort of explains why even though Australia is a warmer climate they have had a lot cases.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I ran vents in the OR during my residency at Truman, Research, St. Luke’s, Children’s Mercy and Menorah. But that was a long time ago. So that will free up some doctors to run vents but doesnt increase the total RT’s I posted earlier.

Curious, are RT’s still intubating patients or is that all Doctors these days?

Wouldn't your RT friends know about this?

[petegz28]

There is absolutely no way in hell you are going to test almost 350 million people in any timely fashion. None. Period.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by petegz28

There is absolutely no way in hell you are going to test almost 350 million people in any timely fashion. None. Period.

It'll only take over three years to test everyone assuming a 24 hour turnaround time per test.