***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[RINGLEADER]

So something that is inconsistent in the data and almost makes me think there are multiple strains of the virus or that it has seen its potency change:

In China and Italy the percentage of people who experience Serious/Critical effects is high — 10% to 33% of currently active cases.

In S Korea and Germany and USA the percentage of “bad” cases is well under 1%.

Even when you factor in deaths into the Serious/Critical number it is still a large difference — outside of the nursing home deaths the US has just over a dozen deaths and 10 critical patients.

And the nursing home in Seattle that was responsible for the majority of US deaths exhibited the same type of high death rate (for obvious reasons).

With enough spread and enough numbers to form semi-reliable trends what does the fact that there are limited numbers of critical patients coming from many parts while high numbers are being reported in Spain, Italy, China, etc tell us?

[MOhillbilly]

Pulled my kids outta school. Topping off on farm supplies.
Hole is dug. Ready to pull the earth in on top.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

NFL said it has "no plans to move the start of the league year."

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 12, 2020

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

NFL said it has "no plans to move the start of the league year."

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 12, 2020

Of course not. That would be taking things a little too far.

[Kman34]

My daughter is a teacher at a local school district and is about to go on spring break.... She says it’s looking more like the kids aren’t coming back to school after the break.. Kids were told to take their devices and chargers home during break. Learning may be done on lab tops for awhile..

[loochy]

I'd like to see some communications from people that actually have the sickness right now. I'd like to see how many feel like death, how many are slightly sick, etc. I keep reading "oh, most people only experience minor symptoms." Is minor like a common cold or is minor like the full blown flu without hospitalization?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

NFL said it has "no plans to move the start of the league year."

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 12, 2020

This is America. Football is not optional.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by loochy

I'd like to see some communications from people that actually have the sickness right now. I'd like to see how many feel like death, how many are slightly sick, etc. I keep reading "oh, most people only experience minor symptoms." Is minor like a common cold or is minor like the full blown flu without hospitalization?

Gobert and Hank seem to be completely fine. Like barely sick.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

NFL said it has "no plans to move the start of the league year."

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 12, 2020

Delusional thinking.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Kman34

My daughter is a teacher at a local school district and is about to go on spring break.... She says it’s looking more like the kids aren’t coming back to school after the break.. Kids were told to take their devices and chargers home during break. Learning may be done on lab tops for awhile..

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

Pulled my kids outta school. Topping off on farm supplies.
Hole is dug. Ready to pull the earth in on top.

We received notice last night that Exhibition Night at the elementary school scheduled for tonight was cancelled, along with the school musical, Frozen, which was scheduled for next Saturday and Sunday, was postponed as well.

The kids have been rehearsing about 8 hours a week for the past four months and while it's nice for me (I run sound in a 1,500 seat auditorium so I'm there 6 hours a day Tuesday-Friday and 10 hours a day on show days), the kids, especially the Leads, are devastated.

My oldest is the lead in her school musical of Matilda but that's not scheduled until May. But if LAUSD cancels school for any real length of time, I just don't know what will happen.

I feel for these kids.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Delusional thinking.

Why? Teams don't need to meet with big time players during Free Agency.

Everything is negotiated by their agents and front office people from the teams.

They can do everything over video chat.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Kman34

My daughter is a teacher at a local school district and is about to go on spring break.... She says it’s looking more like the kids aren’t coming back to school after the break.. Kids were told to take their devices and chargers home during break. Learning may be done on lab tops for awhile..

In KC?

[Mecca]

Bah I don't wanna go stock up on shit at the store, I hate doing that.

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

We received notice last night that Exhibition Night at the elementary school scheduled for tonight was cancelled, along with the school musical, Frozen, which was scheduled for next Saturday and Sunday, was postponed as well.

The kids have been rehearsing about 8 hours a week for the past four months and while it's nice for me (I run sound in a 1,500 seat auditorium so I'm there 6 hours a day Tuesday-Friday and 10 hours a day on show days), the kids, especially the Leads, are devastated.

My oldest is the lead in her school musical of Matilda but that's not scheduled until May. But if LAUSD cancels school for any real length of time, I just don't know what will happen.

I feel for these kids.

My oldest daughter STEM robotics team qualified for worlds. Had to break the news to her that it’s probably not going to be an option.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Why? Teams don't need to meet with big time players during Free Agency.

Everything is negotiated by their agents and front office people from the teams.

They can do everything over video chat.

Ah I took it to mean they are already talking about start of the actual playing season given the suspensions in other sports leagues.

What they do with the draft will be interesting to see but I fail to see any world where it's "business as usual" in September.