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Old 09-22-2019, 02:49 PM  
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Lamar Jackson
I was pretty skeptical about him but he is legit. If the Ravens keep the D up as they always do I can see many battles in the playoffs against them for awhile.
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Old 11-26-2019, 11:08 AM   #286
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Yea, how the hell did the Chiefs beat them and lose to the Titans, Colts and Texans???
Because....chiefs?
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Old 11-26-2019, 11:22 AM   #287
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Why doesn't more teams play zone against him? That is how we shut him down was zone. They are playing this stupid man defense. The way to stop them is zone and spy. Lamar isn't going to throw for 300 yards its just not in his DNA. He is a run first pass second QB. This debate needs to stop!
Debate about what?
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Old 11-26-2019, 11:26 AM   #288
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Why doesn't more teams play zone against him? That is how we shut him down was zone. They are playing this stupid man defense. The way to stop them is zone and spy. Lamar isn't going to throw for 300 yards its just not in his DNA. He is a run first pass second QB. This debate needs to stop!
This is a team that can pummel you with the run in any direction even if you throw 8 in the box. There's not really a great solution for him. It worked for us because we got ahead and forced them to play out of their comfort zone. They still moved the ball pretty well on us in the first half. We just made a clutch stop or two.
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Old 11-26-2019, 11:29 AM   #289
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Naaaaaah.

The system was built around Lamar.

Lamar made the system. The system didn't make him.

His speed and elusiveness are unlike anything we've seen at the position.

Don't start talking "system" shit.

Mahomes or Jackson...wherever those boys go the system will change to cater to THEM.
Don't entirely agree. I don't think he'd thrive in the Chiefs system. Without a good defense he has to attack with his arm. Without a good run offense the defense can play more contain. It is a mutual fit... He makes the system better and the system makes him better.
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Old 11-26-2019, 11:46 AM   #290
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Rams did everything wrong. Wade Phillips has been in the NFL too long, hasn't been watching the college games.

Spagnuolo's scheme did the right thing, attack the gaps..blow up the line. Rams spent too much time trying to read the play and react. Nope, if you try to stop everything you stop nothing. Attack the line and get coverage help in the middle of the field.
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Old 11-26-2019, 12:15 PM   #291
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Not sure what we’ll rounded means but Mahomes can’t run like Jackson. But Jackson isn’t the passer Mahomes is either.

It’s about even as far as threat goes.

Even like- Mahomes throwing for 5,000 yards and 50 TD's and Lamar will never touch those passing numbers ever?
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Old 11-26-2019, 12:23 PM   #292
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Old 11-26-2019, 12:31 PM   #293
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Even like- Mahomes throwing for 5,000 yards and 50 TD's and Lamar will never touch those passing numbers ever?
Will Mahomes ever rush for 1200 a year like Jackson is on pace for?

Their just two different types of athlete. Right now, both equally dangerous in different ways.
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Old 11-26-2019, 12:39 PM   #294
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Naaaaaah.

The system was built around Lamar.

Lamar made the system. The system didn't make him.

His speed and elusiveness are unlike anything we've seen at the position.

Don't start talking "system" shit.

Mahomes or Jackson...wherever those boys go the system will change to cater to THEM.
So Lamar is the reason their OL mauls the hell out of the DL and opens massive holes. It’s all Lamar.
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Old 11-26-2019, 12:40 PM   #295
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Don't entirely agree. I don't think he'd thrive in the Chiefs system. Without a good defense he has to attack with his arm. Without a good run offense the defense can play more contain. It is a mutual fit... He makes the system better and the system makes him better.
I love watching Lamar, but I think the system is going to get him hurt. I think that’s why they have RG3, because he can run the same system. It’s amazing to me LJ takes as many hits as he does and just pops up. I can’t see that lasting due to the sheer strength and size of NfL defenders. The hits always catch up to the players.
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Old 11-26-2019, 12:47 PM   #296
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Will Mahomes ever rush for 1200 a year like Jackson is on pace for?

Their (They're) just two different types of athlete. Right now, both equally dangerous in different ways.
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This........end of debate. I don't know why it's so hard to give credit where credit is due. Lamar is good: Mahomes is good; They are both in systems that exploit their strengths. The next several years are going to be exciting.
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Old 11-26-2019, 12:49 PM   #297
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I love watching Lamar, but I think the system is going to get him hurt. I think that’s why they have RG3, because he can run the same system. It’s amazing to me LJ takes as many hits as he does and just pops up. I can’t see that lasting due to the sheer strength and size of NfL defenders. The hits always catch up to the players.
If you actually look at Lamar most of times when he does get tackled he protects himself. He’s hardly ever running in between the tackles. It’s always outside the pocket or when he does back to pass
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Yea, how the hell did the Chiefs beat them and lose to the Titans, Colts and Texans???
Every NFL game is different. Each team poses different challenges and sometimes players simply have bad games. You also have to take into consideration injuries, weather, travel time between games, have defenses or offenses figured the team out etc..

Chiefs simply matchup well w the Ravens. Plus, Ravens are on fire right now. They weren't playing as well when they played the Chiefs.
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Yes Lamar does protect himself well but as we've seen with Cam lately, those hits add up over time. He got pushed over hard quite a few times last night but he's only been knocked out of one game In his short career and funny enough it was against us last season In over time when our dominant pass rush got to him during their last drive.
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