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Mecca · 09-04-2019, 05:23 AM

Final terms on #Cowboys RB Ezekiel Elliott: 6 years on the extension, $90M in new money with $50M guaranteed. Paid. 💰💰💰
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) September 4, 2019

**SAUTO** · 09-04-2019, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Jones is obviously ****ing his sister.

That's the only explanation.

The line of thinking that, "it would be OK if I just ****ed my sister once. I'm really horny." is the same line of thinking that would yield, "it would be OK if I gave my idiot running back that is perpetually in trouble 100M and 50M guranteed."

Only explanation.

**DaFace** · 09-04-2019, 09:30 AM

Though I will always wonder what could have been if Kareem hadn't been an idiot last year, it's pretty clear to me that we wouldn't have held onto him after his rookie contract. RBs just aren't worth it in today's NFL.

Naptown Chief · 09-04-2019, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Jones is obviously ****ing his sister.

That's the only explanation.

The line of thinking that, "it would be OK if I just ****ed my sister once. I'm really horny." is the same line of thinking that would yield, "it would be OK if I gave my idiot running back that is perpetually in trouble 100M and 50M guranteed."

Only explanation.

LOL wtf? I guess there's no evidence proving you wrong though..

BleedingRed · 09-04-2019, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Making running backs the highest paid player at their position?

Arguable the best running back over the last three years. In 5 years they can cut him with no dead money.

He doesn't have a injury history at all, and they have verbiage in contract that voids money if he is suspended.

But no our offense doesn't need a RB like him, Andy Ried makes no-bodies into something.

But then again Cowboys don't have Mahomes. The Cowboys go as Zeke goes.

Naptown Chief · 09-04-2019, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

Though I will always wonder what could have been if Kareem hadn't been an idiot last year, it's pretty clear to me that we wouldn't have held onto him after his rookie contract. RBs just aren't worth it in today's NFL.

Nope. Next man up..

BleedingRed · 09-04-2019, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Naptown Chief

Nope. Next man up..

In our offense yeah, in other peoples offense maybe not. Yes the NFL has changed, but some teams are still running at a high clip.

Jerok · 09-04-2019, 09:42 AM

I hope the new CBA makes it so players who sit out are ineligible for a new contract somehow. Give them guaranteeed money and make it so they can't sit out. Part of the 'fun' of the NFL should not be 'how can my team be a cap wizard' or 'How many weeks will the best RB not play in the NFL'

BleedingRed · 09-04-2019, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerok

I hope the new CBA makes it so players who sit out are ineligible for a new contract somehow. Give them guaranteeed money and make it so they can't sit out. Part of the 'fun' of the NFL should not be 'how can my team be a cap wizard' or 'How many weeks will the best RB not play in the NFL'

To be fair,

Running backs should be exempt from rookie wage scale. Its bullshit that their earning potential is within the first 5 years, and after that they are screwed.

Mecca · 09-04-2019, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerok

I hope the new CBA makes it so players who sit out are ineligible for a new contract somehow. Give them guaranteeed money and make it so they can't sit out. Part of the 'fun' of the NFL should not be 'how can my team be a cap wizard' or 'How many weeks will the best RB not play in the NFL'

Yea cause players are going to totally agree to give away their leverage in the only league that has non guaranteed contracts, right.

O.city · 09-04-2019, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Arguable the best running back over the last three years. In 5 years they can cut him with no dead money.

He doesn't have a injury history at all, and they have verbiage in contract that voids money if he is suspended.

But no our offense doesn't need a RB like him, Andy Ried makes no-bodies into something.

But then again Cowboys don't have Mahomes. The Cowboys go as Zeke goes.

Why would you want to hitch yourself to a RB for that long?

The position takes such a beating and is so easily replaceable for fractions of what they paid Zeke. Sure you probably won't get a player of Zeke's caliber, but that's not really the issue.

Teams built around RB's don't win SB's.

FAX · 09-04-2019, 09:48 AM

I understand the theory ... the Girls aren't highly competitive without Elliot to make the offense go.

But that's the problem right there. When your offense is built around a RB, your house is built on sand. Very, very expensive sand.

FAX

Jerok · 09-04-2019, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea cause players are going to totally agree to give away their leverage in the only league that has non guaranteed contracts, right.

Did you even read my post?

'Give them guaranteed contracts and make it so they can't sit out'

It's okay my friend. Reading is hard.

Mecca · 09-04-2019, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerok

Did you even read my post?

'Give them guaranteed contracts and make it so they can't sit out'

It's okay my friend. Reading is hard.

You aren't going to be able to do that, even in leagues where shit is guaranteed a guy could do that. But in reality I think they'll take being able to easily get out of a contract over having to actually live up to paying a guy 100 mill.

keg in kc · 09-04-2019, 09:56 AM

Big money goes to players at positions where the NFL has a scarcity. That's why you see QBs and LTs and pass rushers and corners get premium deals. Because high level play at those positions is rare, and the best players are irreplaceable to their franchises. On the flip side, the RB position in today's NFL is a carousel. For everyone. RBs have the shortest average career of any position and quality players are found in the mid- to late rounds of the draft every single year (this is where the "next man up" comment comes in...). The league just doesn't value RB the way it values other positions, and it hasn't for more than ten years. Whereas Jerry Jones operates like it's still 1992, and all he needs is the next Emmitt Smith, the next Troy Aikman and the next Michael Irvin (and maybe the next Mark Tuinei if we want to take it a step further).

Mecca · 09-04-2019, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Big money goes to players at positions where the NFL has a scarcity. That's why you see QBs and LTs and pass rushers and corners get premium deals. Because high level play at those positions is rare, and the best players are irreplaceable to their franchises. On the flip side, the RB position in today's NFL is a carousel. For everyone. RBs have the shortest average career of any position and quality players are found in the mid- to late rounds of the draft every single year (this is where the "next man up" comment comes in...). The league just doesn't value RB the way it values other positions, and it hasn't for more than ten years. Whereas Jerry Jones operates like it's still 1992, and all he needs is the next Emmitt Smith, the next Troy Aikman and the next Michael Irvin (and maybe the next Mark Tuinei if we want to take it a step further).

They ran their offense through a RB, their QB isn't good enough to overcome it and honestly they don't want to go back to being a 5-11 team.

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Mecca Hockey Town Mecca's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri	Elliot gets paid Final terms on #Cowboys RB Ezekiel Elliott: 6 years on the extension, $90M in new money with $50M guaranteed. Paid. 💰💰💰 — Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) September 4, 2019
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DaFace Kind of a mod DaFace's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land	Though I will always wonder what could have been if Kareem hadn't been an idiot last year, it's pretty clear to me that we wouldn't have held onto him after his rookie contract. RBs just aren't worth it in today's NFL.
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Jerok Veteran Join Date: Sep 2013	I hope the new CBA makes it so players who sit out are ineligible for a new contract somehow. Give them guaranteeed money and make it so they can't sit out. Part of the 'fun' of the NFL should not be 'how can my team be a cap wizard' or 'How many weeks will the best RB not play in the NFL'
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FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 FAX's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee	I understand the theory ... the Girls aren't highly competitive without Elliot to make the offense go. But that's the problem right there. When your offense is built around a RB, your house is built on sand. Very, very expensive sand. FAX
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09-04-2019, 09:56 AM	#59
keg in kc oxymoron keg in kc's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever	Big money goes to players at positions where the NFL has a scarcity. That's why you see QBs and LTs and pass rushers and corners get premium deals. Because high level play at those positions is rare, and the best players are irreplaceable to their franchises. On the flip side, the RB position in today's NFL is a carousel. For everyone. RBs have the shortest average career of any position and quality players are found in the mid- to late rounds of the draft every single year (this is where the "next man up" comment comes in...). The league just doesn't value RB the way it values other positions, and it hasn't for more than ten years. Whereas Jerry Jones operates like it's still 1992, and all he needs is the next Emmitt Smith, the next Troy Aikman and the next Michael Irvin (and maybe the next Mark Tuinei if we want to take it a step further).
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