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Old 09-04-2019, 05:23 AM  
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:02 AM   #61
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They ran their offense through a RB, their QB isn't good enough to overcome it
Like I said, Emmitt Smith and Troy Aikman. He's been trying to re-build that 1992 team for 25+ years, and he sees that in Zake and Dak. Or, well, I see that in Zeke and Dak. He never saw Troy as having limitations, and evidently doesn't see it with Dak, either.

Unfortunately for him he never found another Jimmy Johnson, after he ran him out of town.
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:02 AM   #62
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It'll be interesting to see the exact terms.

Jerrah isn't getting any younger and I imagine that was part of settling. That team needs Zeke and everybody knew it.
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:03 AM   #63
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Big money goes to players at positions where the NFL has a scarcity. That's why you see QBs and LTs and pass rushers and corners get premium deals. Because high level play at those positions is rare, and the best players are irreplaceable to their franchises. On the flip side, the RB position in today's NFL is a carousel. For everyone. RBs have the shortest average career of any position and quality players are found in the mid- to late rounds of the draft every single year (this is where the "next man up" comment comes in...). The league just doesn't value RB the way it values other positions, and it hasn't for more than ten years. Jerry Jones operates like it's still 1992.
In his article about the LeSean McCoy acquisition, Seth Keysor suggested that the main issue with RBs in today's NFL isn't that they're truly "not valuable" but instead that the running game has become a fine-tuned dance that requires a ton of guys to do their jobs, and the RB just happens to be the dude carrying the ball. In other words, a mediocre RB can look like a superstar when he has the right blocking, and a superstar RB can look like shit when the guys in front of him don't block worth a damn.

That's not to say that there's no difference between a Charcandrick West and a Jamaal Charles, but there are far more important positions when it comes to making an offense perform than the RB position.
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:06 AM   #64
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In his article about the LeSean McCoy acquisition, Seth Keysor suggested that the main issue with RBs in today's NFL isn't that they're truly "not valuable" but instead that the running game has become a fine-tuned dance that requires a ton of guys to do their jobs, and the RB just happens to be the dude carrying the ball. In other words, a mediocre RB can look like a superstar when he has the right blocking, and a superstar RB can look like shit when the guys in front of him don't block worth a damn.

That's not to say that there's no difference between a Charcandrick West and a Jamaal Charles, but there are far more important positions when it comes to making an offense perform than the RB position.
Keysor is right, of course. It's a team game ...

To me, it's the dual-threat aspect of the position that has changed everything from economic value to on-the-field contribution ... guys who catch the ball are more diva-like than the hammerheads of yore.

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Old 09-04-2019, 10:07 AM   #65
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In his article about the LeSean McCoy acquisition, Seth Keysor suggested that the main issue with RBs in today's NFL isn't that they're truly "not valuable" but instead that the running game has become a fine-tuned dance that requires a ton of guys to do their jobs, and the RB just happens to be the dude carrying the ball. In other words, a mediocre RB can look like a superstar when he has the right blocking, and a superstar RB can look like shit when the guys in front of him don't block worth a damn.

That's not to say that there's no difference between a Charcandrick West and a Jamaal Charles, but there are far more important positions when it comes to making an offense perform than the RB position.
We all witnessed what would happen to Charles when teams would load the box and make teams have to throw to beat them.

Charles would still make a guy or two miss and potentially house one, but in the end, if the guy under center can't do it, it doesn't matter.
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:11 AM   #66
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To be fair,

Running backs should be exempt from rookie wage scale. Its bullshit that their earning potential is within the first 5 years, and after that they are screwed.
Four years. Very few running backs are drafted in the first round anymore.
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:12 AM   #67
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In his article about the LeSean McCoy acquisition, Seth Keysor suggested that the main issue with RBs in today's NFL isn't that they're truly "not valuable" but instead that the running game has become a fine-tuned dance that requires a ton of guys to do their jobs, and the RB just happens to be the dude carrying the ball. In other words, a mediocre RB can look like a superstar when he has the right blocking, and a superstar RB can look like shit when the guys in front of him don't block worth a damn.

That's not to say that there's no difference between a Charcandrick West and a Jamaal Charles, but there are far more important positions when it comes to making an offense perform than the RB position.
Valid point, I think.

The league has come a long way. Half the teams do stuff more complicated than anything Mike Martz (or Al Saunders) ever tried with the The Greatest Show on Turf, and that's barely a generation ago, in career terms. Hell, in the 90s, the Norv Turner/Ernie Zampese offenses were advanced, for their day. But the Cowboys have been stuck there ever sense.
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:35 AM   #68
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:39 AM   #69
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I hope the new CBA makes it so players who sit out are ineligible for a new contract somehow. Give them guaranteeed money and make it so they can't sit out. Part of the 'fun' of the NFL should not be 'how can my team be a cap wizard' or 'How many weeks will the best RB not play in the NFL'

The NFL already has guaranteed money in all the big contracts, but if you are talking about the total contract being guaranteed like the NBA yeah the owners will never do that. The players would love that though for sure.
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:39 AM   #70
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Congrats to the Cowboys for the dumbest contract in NFL history.
Honestly I don't think we can throw stones........... See Eric Berry
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:46 AM   #71
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Gotta give Zeke his props, but........you do not pay a RB big $$$$$$. You can win without Jim Brown.

The Patriots all time leading rusher....Sam "Bam" Cunningham.

The Lions with Barry Sanders did what?
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:47 AM   #72
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:48 AM   #73
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Howie is smarter than everyone.
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:49 AM   #74
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That is seriously some shit you'd offer on Madden just to see if the stupid computer would do it.
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:50 AM   #75
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Howie is just smart and always does due diligence. They're just always trying to see what they can do to get better and be aggressive doing it.
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