****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

[Sofa King]

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by staylor26

No, I'm talking about the issue being the "scheme".

If you think Andy Reid's scheme is the issue, and that's why you aren't confident that the Chiefs offense can get it together, that's just really ****ing silly dude.

You’re talking historically, and I’m talking the last two games.

Does this offense look *anything* like it’s looked in the past?

Disorganized, undisciplined, dare I say sloppy?

[Simply Red]

They'll work it out guys, we'll be fine. You all seem nice.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Through two games, it’s certainly not up to expectations.

18 points a game and looking sloppy.

RIGHT NOW, the scheme hasn’t been up to snuff.

Historically? Of course, he’s the best. Gotta figure out why the last two weeks have been less than expectations.

Scheme isn't the problem. It's execution. Toney/Skyy dropping passes, Watson fumble, Mahomes pick and the tackle penalties that killed drives really hurt the offense.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

You’re talking historically, and I’m talking the last two games.

Does this offense look *anything* like it’s looked in the past?

Disorganized, undisciplined, dare I say sloppy?

They've certainly been sloppy.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Mecca

They've certainly been sloppy.

HOW DARE YOU?

Greta.Gif

[O.city]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

You’re talking historically, and I’m talking the last two games.

Does this offense look *anything* like it’s looked in the past?

Disorganized, undisciplined, dare I say sloppy?

Definitely

Should hopefully work out

[JohnnyHammersticks]

We just beat a team that came back from a 27 point deficit to beat the Bolts in the playoffs last season.

We did that on their home field, which with the heat & humidity gave them almost a Pile High-esque home field advantage.

We did this with a DT playing in essentially his first time donning pads in 7 months and our 2nd best player on offense, Mahomes' favorite target, and the best TE in NFL history playing on a bum knee.

We also did this despite losing the turnover battle by 2 and having 10 more penalties for 84 yards more than the playoff team we beat.

In other words:

WBF

(I do wish Rice would get more playing time though. But I guess I've got to trust the coaches who see these players every day, since they've all forgotten more about football than I'll ever know).

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by TEX

You keep saying this and its flawed. Who cares what he is in NE? The point is JJSS had 933 yards IN KC last season, which lead all WR's. That production is gone and nobody on the roster has shown they can step up and miake up for it. (Yet).

Oh, no. It's not remotely flawed.

No one had any idea how good JJSS was when he arrived in KC. He came to the Chiefs and he had 933 yards. That was our leading receiver and certainly helped us. But no one spent time lamenting that he was gone because he seemed like a product of the system and Mahomes.

He goes to the Patriots who are allergic to offense. And he's turned into a JAG.

So on the Chiefs he's the leading receiver, on the Patriots he's a JAG, but we should really feel like the Chiefs can't create production for average receivers?

It's been 2 weeks. We need to replace JJSS's production. Week 1 was a team told they're not playing without Kelce the day prior. Week 2 was a step in the right direction capped off by a play by Moore where he played the exact scramble-drill role we wanted and needed.

Should we have paid 8mm/yr for JuJu? God, no. You hope the young guys can evolve and make plays exactly like Moore did today when we needed him.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

We just beat a team that came back from a 27 point deficit to beat the Bolts in the playoffs last season.

We did that on their home field, which with the heat & humidity gave them almost a Pile High-esque home field advantage.

We did this with a DT playing in essentially his first time donning pads in 7 months and our 2nd best player on offense, Mahomes' favorite target, and the best TE in NFL history playing on a bum knee.

We also did this despite losing the turnover battle by 2 and having 10 more penalties for 84 yards more than the playoff team we beat.

In other words:

WBF

(I do wish Rice would get more playing time though. But I guess I've got to trust the coaches who see these players every day, since they've all forgotten more about football than I'll ever know).

Yes they won that's important.

However long haul you aren't gonna win alot of games with 20 or 17 points that just isn't how the NFL is built now no matter how good your defense is.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by O.city

Definitely

Should hopefully work out

And that’s the divide in this thread.

People posting about what they see, versus people posting about what they assume they’ll see in 10 weeks.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Mecca

They've certainly been sloppy.

The offense is making a ton of mistakes and are sloppy while the defense is making very few mistakes and executing at a high level.

I feel like I'm in some inverted Chiefs universe

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

HOW DARE YOU?

Greta.Gif

It's fine to say they've been sloppy.

It's absolutely reeruned to think this will be the new norm and Andy, Pat, Kelce, and everybody else won't make drastic improvement over the next several weeks.

JFC I can't believe you think that everything this team has done the last 5 years is completely irrelevant and all that matters is the first 2 games of the season.

The only reason one would possibly think like this is if they're jsut a whiny little bitch at their core.

Trust me, I know that's exactly what the issue is here.

[Simply Red]

I'm not sure how we are supposed to use Toney, something doesn't seem right w/ him. It's like he needs quite a bit of space to make plays, no that's not it, I am not quite sure how to explain it.

Have our coaches figured out how to use Toney yet?

BTW: Did anyone see #8 at all today?

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Through two games, it’s certainly not up to expectations.

18 points a game and looking sloppy.

RIGHT NOW, the scheme hasn’t been up to snuff.

Historically? Of course, he’s the best. Gotta figure out why the last two weeks have been less than expectations.

I, and many others have told you why, you just ignore reason.

and 18 points per game on a sample size of TWO, when you kneel with a first and goal inside the 5 because you have all the points you need to secure the win is being disingenuous; but I know, I get it, 18 points sounds really bad compared to 22 points per game. It makes your point sound so much more authoritative.

Gotta figure out why the last two weeks have been less than expectations? Well, let's see...

No Kelce in week one, inexperienced WR corps pressing, drop 8 balls, not in synch.
8 drops in week one.
10 offensive penalties in week two. Still over 300 yards passing, even with Kelce at 26 yards and two drops.

and there you go. That's why.

Better in week two, still lots of room for improvement. Hey, look! 15 more games to get comfortable in!

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Oh, no. It's not remotely flawed.

No one had any idea how good JJSS was when he arrived in KC. He came to the Chiefs and he had 933 yards. That was our leading receiver and certainly helped us. But no one spent time lamenting that he was gone because he seemed like a product of the system and Mahomes.

He goes to the Patriots who are allergic to offense. And he's turned into a JAG.

So on the Chiefs he's the leading receiver, on the Patriots he's a JAG, but we should really feel like the Chiefs can't create production for average receivers?

It's been 2 weeks. We need to replace JJSS's production. Week 1 was a team told they're not playing without Kelce the day prior. Week 2 was a step in the right direction capped off by a play by Moore where he played the exact scramble-drill role we wanted and needed.

Should we have paid 8mm/yr for JuJu? God, no. You hope the young guys can evolve and make plays exactly like Moore did today when we needed him.

That's not really the case. I never was wow, we got JuJu but automatically penciled him in as the KC WR #1 when he arrived and no one better was signed.

Plenty of others here said the same thing.