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Old 04-30-2022, 04:14 PM  
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Watson was an all-region receiver and also played cornerback at Lucy C. Laney High School in Augusta, Georgia, before moving across the country to play at Ventura College in California. He was a two-time junior college All-American cornerback there, signing with USC for 2019 but not enrolling in school. Watson went to Pullman instead for the 2020 season, earning honorable mention All-Pac-12 honors that fall (13 tackles, two pass breakups in three starts) as well as in 2021, when he posted 31 tackles, two interceptions, three pass breakups and ranked second in the FBS with four fumble recoveries in 12 starts. He opted out of the team's bowl game to prepare for the NFL draft. -- by Chad Reuter
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Watson is big and strong. He can be a physical presence when he's playing with patience from press coverage. With just two years of experience at the FBS level, he's predictably raw with his fundamentals, but the lack of agility and short-area quickness should be more than just short-term concerns. Currently, he's unable to stay in phase with quality route runners but does have physical traits that might warrant a practice squad stint for defenses reliant upon Cover 2 and/or Cover 3 schemes.
Strengths
-Good size, strength and length.
-Fought through adversity to find an FBS home.
-Developmental traits for zone-heavy units.
-Displayed improved fundamentals in 2021.
-Very physical in bullying the release from press.
-Strong punch drives through wideout's shoulders.
-Overwhelms catch point on contested catches.
-Willing hitter with plus strength in run support.
Weaknesses
-Impatient and often overextends in matching release in press.
-Lacks foot agility and quickness for man coverage.
-Footwork through transitions is sloppy and slow.
-Gets routed out of position fairly easily.
-Looked overmatched against USC wideouts.
-Doesn't trust his eyes just yet.
-Takes poor angles and lacks a credible burst to close on throws.
-Doesn't find the football in downfield route phase.

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Old 09-16-2022, 11:43 AM   #106
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Someone in the game day thread was asking for spags to be fired LOL
Andy and Spags are by no means above criticism. But anyone who doesn't believe they're both at least top 10 in the league at their roles (top 5 for Andy) doesn't know WTF they're talking about.
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Old 09-16-2022, 11:44 AM   #107
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Andy and Spags are by no means above criticism. But anyone who doesn't believe they're both at least top 10 in the league at their roles (top 5 for Andy) doesn't know WTF they're talking about.
If someone has Andy outside of the top 5, then I need to see their list.
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Old 09-16-2022, 11:46 AM   #108
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Andy and Spags are by no means above criticism. But anyone who doesn't believe they're both at least top 10 in the league at their roles (top 5 for Andy) doesn't know WTF they're talking about.
Spag has literally only been top 10 2/3 times his entire career. Putting him anywhere near the same level of Andy is an insult.
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Old 09-16-2022, 02:06 PM   #109
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Andy as a play designer, certainly top 3. Overall coaching, he's lost more big ones than he's won with gaffes that get him mercilessly crucified by media and fans for the two franchises he has coached for. Andy is gonna get you a shot at the big game. Will he win it is always gonna be in question when you see things like the second half of last year's title game, relentlessly passing into a 3 man front with a qb that is rattled for the first time in his career.

Steve Spagnuolo, this guy is feast or famine. I don't see him as a top 10 guy at all. Top 10 guys don't field historically bad defenses the first two months of the season and surrender a 100% redzone td rate. Especially when a good portion of that is self inflicted. Many decisions he made last year from personnel, to playcalls, were fireable offenses. Chris jones out of position looking like a fool. Sorensen and Niemann, we all saw what happened. Jamarr Chase set a rookie record being singled up all game, and we lost the game because of a zero blitz on 3rd and 26. Just monumentally stupid football. Took his time about adjusting the coverage on Williams last night. That adjustment needs to happen faster in games. How can you not see when a guy is on fire against you early?
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Old 09-16-2022, 02:06 PM   #110
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Old 09-16-2022, 02:13 PM   #111
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Andy as a play designer, certainly top 3. Overall coaching, he's lost more big ones than he's won with gaffes that get him mercilessly crucified by media and fans for the two franchises he has coached for. Andy is gonna get you a shot at the big game. Will he win it is always gonna be in question when you see things like the second half of last year's title game, relentlessly passing into a 3 man front with a qb that is rattled for the first time in his career.

Steve Spagnuolo, this guy is feast or famine. I don't see him as a top 10 guy at all. Top 10 guys don't field historically bad defenses the first two months of the season and surrender a 100% redzone td rate. Especially when a good portion of that is self inflicted. Many decisions he made last year from personnel, to playcalls, were fireable offenses. Chris jones out of position looking like a fool. Sorensen and Niemann, we all saw what happened. Jamarr Chase set a rookie record being singled up all game, and we lost the game because of a zero blitz on 3rd and 26. Just monumentally stupid football. Took his time about adjusting the coverage on Williams last night. That adjustment needs to happen faster in games. How can you not see when a guy is on fire against you early?
Yes, we've read your thread on Andy. We know you think he's a terrible coach.
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Old 09-16-2022, 02:15 PM   #112
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Did gay tip the ball?

And holy lord look at Jones's lack of effort. Dude was gassed
Yeah Chargers tempo was wearing our guys out, but turns out, it wears your own guys out, especially WRs and if they ask to be taken out of the game, you probably should take them out.

No one gets in their own way like the Chargers do. It's amazing. No matter who the coach is, QB is, or other players are, Chargers will always Charger. All you have to do is keep the game close and they'll manage to shoot themselves in the foot and you can capitalize.
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Old 09-16-2022, 02:56 PM   #113
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Andy and Spags are by no means above criticism. But anyone who doesn't believe they're both at least top 10 in the league at their roles (top 5 for Andy) doesn't know WTF they're talking about.
Spags does a fine job - nobody is perfect as you say. I think he's actually a touch better than he gets credit for.
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Old 09-16-2022, 03:13 PM   #114
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Old 09-16-2022, 03:14 PM   #115
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Sheesh.

Wish they coulda got a better picture of the kid. It looks like his dog just died.
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Old 09-16-2022, 03:16 PM   #116
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Spags does a fine job - nobody is perfect as you say. I think he's actually a touch better than he gets credit for.
For what Spags has to work with (especially this year) he's done pretty damn well. Give us Mack, Bosa, JC Jackson and Derwin James and I'm guessing Spags could build a pretty damn good unit.

Right now he has Chris Jones, LaJarius Sneed, two ascending but still raw linebackers and a bunch of question marks (youth, new pieces, useless Frank Clark and some JAGs). I mean I don't think there's a DC in the league that could field a better unit with this current group two games in.
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Old 09-16-2022, 03:17 PM   #117
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Sheesh.

Wish they coulda got a better picture of the kid. It looks like his dog just died.
He had that Vontae Davis call my grandma look

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Old 09-16-2022, 03:17 PM   #118
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For what Spags has to work with (especially this year) he's done pretty damn well. Give us Mack, Bosa, JC Jackson and Derwin James and I'm guessing Spags could build a pretty damn good unit.

Right now he has Chris Jones, LaJarius Sneed, two ascending but still raw linebackers and a bunch of question marks (youth, new pieces, useless Frank Clark and some JAGs). I mean I don't think there's a DC in the league that could field a better unit with this current group two games in.
oh sweetie, I sure do agree!
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Old 09-16-2022, 03:18 PM   #119
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Sheesh.

Wish they coulda got a better picture of the kid. It looks like his dog just died.
dudes from Augusta! Georgia boi
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Old 09-16-2022, 03:39 PM   #120
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Did gay tip the ball?

And holy lord look at Jones's lack of effort. Dude was gassed
Holy shit! I think Gay did tip that!
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