****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

[Sofa King]

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

[RunKC]

With Mecole/Richie being hurt most of the games and Ross being out half the season, we've given our snap counts to:

Rice
MVS
Watson
Skyy
Toney

Is there a single WR unit across the league you say is worse than this group collectively? I'm not sure I put our group over a single team in the league.

And we say this isn't primarily a personnel problem?

[Sassy Squatch]

MVS and Toney are both having their worst seasons as pros, Moore hasn't developed a damn bit, and Rice is being utilized as a gimmick. Yeah, the talent here is relatively low compared to other WR rooms but it's absolutely being exacerbated by poor coaching.

[O.city]

Toney imploded. That's all that happened there.

[RunKC]

Relatively low? 2 of the top 5 WR's in snaps that the staff glowingly talked up last Spring have been benched, the QB literally hates MVS and Watson was on a practice squad right before we signed him to a futures deal.

That's not "relatively low". That's worst in the league, total shit bad. Hell these guys collectively have the worst drop rate of any team in a decade.

And simplifying the playbook is a bad thing. Cutting plays out of your playbook bc the personnel can't run it makes you worse, not better.

Again look at the WR's Andy and Nagy are scheming these guys open. They are wide open and dropping passes and it's ruined the offense.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by RunKC

With Mecole/Richie being hurt most of the games and Ross being out half the season, we've given our snap counts to:

Rice
MVS
Watson
Skyy
Toney

Is there a single WR unit across the league you say is worse than this group collectively? I'm not sure I put our group over a single team in the league.

And we say this isn't primarily a personnel problem?

I agree. They are the worst WR group in the NFL, hell the Panthers have a better WR group. Our tackles have been a problem too which has contributed to Pat not playing like he has in the past.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I agree. They are the worst WR group in the NFL, hell the Panthers have a better WR group. Our tackles have been a problem too which has contributed to Pat not playing like he has in the past.

You know it's bad when we're like hey Mecole Hardman can make a difference.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Sounds just like Andy Reid to me. See the TB SB when he constantly left his struggling tackles on islands most of the time getting Mahomes killed. (Nagy was in Chicago that year).

I've seen you use this as some sort of deflection for Nagy being completely incapable of making adjustments and it's just ****ing asinine to me.

Firstly, Reid was down FIVE offensive linemen, four starters, due to injuries and opt outs. Fisher, Schwartz, and Osemeli were all injured and LDT and Niang opted out.

Secondly, the interior was getting their shit wrecked just as badly.

Pressures given up.
Remmers 6
Allegreti 7
Reiter 2
Wisnewski 5
Wylie 9

It's actually laughable you keep trying to correlate Reid having to piecemeal an OL together on 2 weeks notice with Nagy being an obstinate dickhead refusing to adjust his offensive philosophy to better tailor to his personnel throughout his entire career. Again, he ran the same ****ing scheme for Andy Dalton, Nick Foles, and Justin Fields.

[Sassy Squatch]

Not really?

[O.city]

Andy runs the show here. I guess we can fire Nagy, doesn't bother me either way.

It's Andy's offense. Looks like the Alex Smith offense.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

I've seen you use this as some sort of deflection for Nagy being completely incapable of making adjustments and it's just ****ing asinine to me.

Firstly, Reid was down FIVE offensive linemen, four starters, due to injuries and opt outs. Fisher, Schwartz, and Osemeli were all injured and LDT and Niang opted out.

Secondly, the interior was getting their shit wrecked just as badly.

Pressures given up.
Remmers 6
Allegreti 7
Reiter 2
Wisnewski 5
Wylie 9

It's actually laughable you keep trying to correlate Reid having to piecemeal an OL together on 2 weeks notice with Nagy being an obstinate dickhead refusing to adjust his offensive philosophy to better tailor to his personnel throughout his entire career. Again, he ran the same ****ing scheme for Andy Dalton, Nick Foles, and Justin Fields.

And every one of those QB's suck. I'm not giving any more excuses to Fields for looking like ass with multiple coaches and the GM giving him a big boost of talent while the next Ohio State QB losses Tank Dell and Noah Brown and still looks awesome regardless of the circumstance.

The game that Andy/Nagy went full horizontal was the Raiders game in which the OL got destroyed and the WR's suck. Wanya Morris alone gave up 10 pressures that game and multiple people on this board said it was the among the worst OL play they've seen in a long time.

It's a fact that Mahomes ran for his life more in the Raiders game than the TB SB debacle. There's a proven stat that was tweeted after that game.

No clue what you want any OC to do when you have the worst WR unit in the league, your 2 best blocking RB's are injured and your OL get annihilated. Again put Bill Walsh as your OC that day. Still won't matter.

Andy and Nagy's plays worked more than fine last year with far better talent available. They're mostly the same plays/concepts.

Not sure how you don't see the talent level of the weapons this year falling off a cliff due to departures/injury/aging.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

Andy runs the show here. I guess we can fire Nagy, doesn't bother me either way.

It's Andy's offense. Looks like the Alex Smith offense.

my .02 cents, besides the obvious drops I think the offensive skill players all look slow with the exception of Rice. They need to fix that this off season.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by RunKC

And every one of those QB's suck. I'm not giving any more excuses to Fields for looking like ass with multiple coaches and the GM giving him a big boost of talent while the next Ohio State QB losses Tank Dell and Noah Brown and still looks awesome regardless of the circumstance.

The game that Andy/Nagy went full horizontal was the Raiders game in which the OL got destroyed and the WR's suck. Wanya Morris alone gave up 10 pressures that game and multiple people on this board said it was the among the worst OL play they've seen in a long time.

It's a fact that Mahomes ran for his life more in the Raiders game than the TB SB debacle. There's a proven stat that was tweeted after that game.

No clue what you want any OC to do when you have the worst WR unit in the league, your 2 best blocking RB's are injured and your OL get annihilated. Again put Bill Walsh as your OC that day. Still won't matter.

Andy and Nagy's plays worked more than fine last year with far better talent available. They're mostly the same plays/concepts.

Not sure how you don't see the talent level of the weapons this year falling off a cliff due to departures/injury/aging.

You're STILL not getting the point. Those QBs being shit doesn't excuse Nagy for being a stubborn ass hat trying to jam a triangle, square, and pentagon all into the same round hole trying to run his scheme. Hell, the dude was known for throwing tantrums if the players didn't run it EXACTLY as designed and ultimately lost the locker room and his job for it. He's a shitty coach and he always will be considering he apparently learned **** all from his debacle in Chicago.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

You're STILL not getting the point. Those QBs being shit doesn't excuse Nagy for being a stubborn ass hat trying to jam a triangle, square, and pentagon all into the same round hole trying to run his scheme. Hell, the dude was known for throwing tantrums if the players didn't run it EXACTLY as designed and ultimately lost the locker room and his job for it. He's a shitty coach and he always will be considering he apparently learned **** all from his debacle in Chicago.

You know Reid though, it will take an act of god for him to fire one of his coaches.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

You know Reid though, it will take an act of god for him to fire one of his coaches.

Yeah. Already accepted the unfortunate reality that when Reid retires our window will firmly slam shut for however long Nagy takes over. Mahomes likes the way he softly strokes his grundle while fondling his jock and he and Veach were buttchug buddies back at the I Phelta Thi frat house in Delaware. Just hope he sucks so badly we only have to lose one year of Mahomes.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

You're STILL not getting the point. Those QBs being shit doesn't excuse Nagy for being a stubborn ass hat trying to jam a triangle, square, and pentagon all into the same round hole trying to run his scheme. Hell, the dude was known for throwing tantrums if the players didn't run it EXACTLY as designed and ultimately lost the locker room and his job for it. He's a shitty coach and he always will be considering he apparently learned **** all from his debacle in Chicago.

Guess you won't like any of Andy's coaches since the Eagles players almost beat Doug Pederson's ass in the locker room for his stint with Jalen Hurts benching, Nagy's time in Chicago, Commanders players not liking Bieniemy basically calling him a hardass asshole and Sean McDermott praising Allahu Akbar