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Old 04-28-2022, 08:24 PM  
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Old 04-28-2022, 09:08 PM   #91
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Old 04-28-2022, 09:09 PM   #92
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Well, about half of CP hates this pick. He will be an all pro in year 2.
Anybody that “hates” this pick is a moron.

It was a surprise. It was unexpected.

But it was great value at a position of need.
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Old 04-28-2022, 09:11 PM   #94
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That’s actually a great comparison.
I thought his game and skillset was more or less in that neighborhood, and Harris Jr. was very good for Denver.
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Old 04-28-2022, 09:11 PM   #95
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Anybody that “hates” this pick is a moron.

It was a surprise. It was unexpected.

But it was great value at a position of need.
Yeah, my first reaction was kinda "wtf." But I'll fully admit to having convinced myself first round pure corner wasn't a possibility that it was just a shock.

It makes a ton of sense and the guy rates very high.
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Old 04-28-2022, 09:11 PM   #96
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Overview

Next Gen Stats: 87

Three-year starter whose average size is overshadowed by skillful ruggedness, allowing him to contest throws from a variety of coverages. He's an elite competitor with a route-hugging mentality fueled by body control, foot agility, aggression and burst. He's a pesky press-man defender with the tools to excel in zone. He's willing to fly downhill and hit anybody near the football. He keeps his eyes on the prize and has an itchy, twitchy trigger to close throwing windows and make plays on the ball. He lacks lockdown traits but has lockdown talent and his competitive energy is contagious. He can play outside or from the slot and carries a very high floor with the potential to become one of the league's top corners at some point during his first contract.

Strengths
  • Fearless, aggressive competitor.
  • Tools to live in tight press man from start to finish.
  • Patience and well-balanced to mirror and match a clever release.
  • Swivels and stays connected to cross-face routes.
  • Recognition of route combinations in Cover 3.
  • Allowed 16 catches on 296 total passing snaps in 2021, per PFF.
  • Body control and foot quickness allow for elite phase potential.
  • Has the juice to bait throws and pounce on them.
  • Natural feel for angles to the football.
  • Twitched up with explosive burst to close.
  • Precocious attacking the catch space.
  • Tenacious in run support.
  • Wipes out run after catch with decisive blows.
  • Consistent coming to balance as open-field tackler.

Weaknesses
  • Below-average size and length for CB1.
  • Could struggle to defend throws from trail.
  • Has potential to improve anticipation.
  • Waits for release to begin before squeezing tight.
  • Could have issues banging on big wideouts.
  • Saw limited NFL-level challenges over last two seasons.

Sources Tell Us

"Of all the defensive backs that (former Washington) coach (Chris) Petersen recruited, he might be the best. The talent, athleticism and makeup are all really clean." -- Scouting director for NFC team

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/trent-mcduffie/32004d43-4482-4296-793c-79be74c0e9fd
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Old 04-28-2022, 09:12 PM   #97
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Post somewhere else than pussy - we're allowed to NOT like a pick.
I respect your opinion to not like the pick. I live in Washington and have watched a ton of UW games and I think this kid will be great.
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Old 04-28-2022, 09:12 PM   #98
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well that makes me feel better - I definitely am curious how they go forward on 30s pick. I'm thinking it'll NOT be a WR at this pt.
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Old 04-28-2022, 09:12 PM   #99
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NOBODY had us getting McDuffie because most mocks he was off the board before 15. He's gonna run an island for us out there.
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Old 04-28-2022, 09:13 PM   #100
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I just think height at DB is super important. Just my belief. But I still belief.
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Old 04-28-2022, 09:14 PM   #101
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Anybody that “hates” this pick is a moron.



It was a surprise. It was unexpected.



But it was great value at a position of need.
I like the pick, but I wish he was a tick faster and a tick taller, but that's nitpicking. Hopefully, Jermaine Johnson doesn't end up being a dominant edge rusher like TJ Watt, etc.

Who do you want at 30? I am hoping for Christian Watson.

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Old 04-28-2022, 09:14 PM   #102
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I just think of the Chiefs as a QB/ WR/ TE team.

Plug in guys at CB.

We just gave up a third and fourth for this CB- and the first round swap

If it’s a WR I am inherently happier with it.

McDuffie better be worth it.

I’m trusting you, Veach.
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Yeah, my first reaction was kinda "wtf." But I'll fully admit to having convinced myself first round pure corner wasn't a possibility that it was just a shock.

It makes a ton of sense and the guy rates very high.
I didn’t think they value corner, and I didn’t think they wanted a zone guy that didn’t fit their size thresholds.

But McDuffie was a top 15 player on my board. That’s a great pick.
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Old 04-28-2022, 09:16 PM   #104
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https://www.nfl.com/prospects/trent-mcduffie/32004d43-4482-4296-793c-79be74c0e9fd
You can tell Zierlein had to work to find negatives. That's an extremely positive sign.
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There is nothing wrong with this pick. If a corner is an inch and a half too short you do your homework and make sure he makes up for it in a multitude of other ways.

Veach did the homework. This guy is going to bring that Honey Badger slot presence we just lost, plus the ability to play outside against guys who aren't trees. And he can tackle.

Great pick.
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