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Sofa King · 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

**BossChief** · 12-20-2023, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Prepare CBs…. YOU JUST GOT ROSSED!!

“I expect him to see the field and make an immediate impact.” - Matt Nagy on Justyn Ross#ChiefsKingdom pic.twitter.com/Q4zOKbI3My
— Chris (@chiefs_outsider) December 20, 2023

Is that a recent quote? Or something old?

UChieffyBugger · 12-20-2023, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

At least Moore, Pierce and Pickens all seem like shitty 2nd round picks now.

Pickens?

Couch-Potato · 12-20-2023, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Prepare CBs…. YOU JUST GOT ROSSED!!

“I expect him to see the field and make an immediate impact.” - Matt Nagy on Justyn Ross#ChiefsKingdom pic.twitter.com/Q4zOKbI3My
— Chris (@chiefs_outsider) December 20, 2023

Now would be the perfect time for him to breakout!

DJ's left nut · 12-20-2023, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

They traded for the guy from the Raiders and he hasn't played a snap.

Yeah, that's a weird one. Farrell or something like that.

You give up a 6th to jump the line on a guy that's going to get cut and then you just never give him a sniff. Has he even been on the gameday roster at any point?

Almost feels like a deal they made for next year at this point. But if you're going to do that, were they really that certain in the summer of '23 that they couldn't get a DT in the fall of '24 with the 6th rounder that was as likely to play as Neil Farrell?

Or did they just misfire? Maybe the kid was lazy or stupid, the Raiders knew it based on a year on their roster and we just didn't. I dunno - doesn't take a rocket surgeon to be a defensive tackle.

Just seems like they'd have given him some run by now. But him and Coburn just stayed completely buried.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-20-2023, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I feel like we’re slowly but surely figuring things out.

We’ve already ramped up Rice’s snaps and reduced Moore and MVS’s. Watson will likely remain consistent. I’d look to get James involved over this final stretch so he’s up-to-speed come playoffs.

If we can lean on Kelce and Rice with some big plays from Hardman and James and the occasional contribution from MVS and Watson while getting the backs involved in the passing game, I think we can return to that 2022 offense’s form just in time for the big games.

I really don’t love the idea of putting mahomes in the chemistry lab again.

But I think the other bridges are burned. We have a few games to see if James and Ross will work. If they don’t, we stick with 2-3 TE sets and do more pro set with WRs as decoys. there really isn’t a better option except to throw guys on the field we know mahomes may never trust again

DJ's left nut · 12-20-2023, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I really don’t love the idea of putting mahomes in the chemistry lab again.

But I think the other bridges are burned. We have a few games to see if James and Ross will work. If they don’t, we stick with 2-3 TE sets and do more pro set with WRs as decoys. there really isn’t a better option except to throw guys on the field we know mahomes may never trust again

This is Mahomes 7th year in the league, folks.

Can we stop acting like he's some delicate flower?

Lord fellas - if his constitution is as weak as you guys are making it out to be, this GOAT stuff we all expect to happen over the next decade is dead in the womb.

Seasons like this happen to every QB. Sometimes multiple seasons. And we have people wanting to treat him like a toddler with a skinned knee. Oh the poor dear - I'm so sorry this has happened to you...

**ptlyon** · 12-20-2023, 02:16 PM

Maybe it's time to remind you all "C'mon guys, it's all ball bearings these days"

BigCatDaddy · 12-20-2023, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Pickens?

Yeah.. Total head case unwilliing to block.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-20-2023, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

This is Mahomes 7th year in the league, folks.

Can we stop acting like he's some delicate flower?

Lord fellas - if his constitution is as weak as you guys are making it out to be, this GOAT stuff we all expect to happen over the next decade is dead in the womb.

Seasons like this happen to every QB. Sometimes multiple seasons. And we have people wanting to treat him like a toddler with a skinned knee. Oh the poor dear - I'm so sorry this has happened to you...

I’ll flip this around for you. Can we stop with the idea that our solution out of every problem is to ask mahomes and kelce to carry more and more and more weight on their backs? That these guys are so great they can elevate all levels of talent? Let’s stop using this as a crutch.

Maybe when a guy who has been nothing but an extreme professional and has beyond patient all season long blows up two weeks in a row, it’s time to listen instead of telling him to sack up. we all know this isn’t just dealing with a little adversity. This isn’t an issue of elevating lack of talent. Every time you ask mahomes to trust WRs with a high likelihood of costly screw ups you are forcing him to make bad decisions.

At some point the science experiment has to end and the very least we can do is give mahomes a plan and ****ing stick with it. At this point in the season just get the guys who can best execute and stop trying to make it work with guys who’ve repeatedly shown they can’t be trusted. We’re at the stage where it’s not even fool me 3 times. It’s fool me 15 times.

WhawhaWhat · 12-20-2023, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Yeah.. Total head case unwilliing to block.

and he also had no problem telling the media that not blocking was a business decision.

DJ's left nut · 12-20-2023, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I’ll flip this around for you. Can we stop with the idea that our solution out of every problem is to ask mahomes and kelce to carry more and more and more weight on their backs? That these guys are so great they can elevate all levels of talent? Let’s stop using this as a crutch.

Maybe when a guy who has been nothing but an extreme professional and has beyond patient all season long blows up two weeks in a row, it’s time to listen instead of telling him to sack up. we all know this isn’t just dealing with a little adversity. This isn’t an issue of elevating lack of talent. Every time you ask mahomes to trust WRs with a high likelihood of costly screw ups you are forcing him to make bad decisions.

At some point the science experiment has to end and the very least we can do is give mahomes a plan and ****ing stick with it.

Are you new to the NFL?

No, the 'science experiment' will never end. I mean maybe if you're lucky and you manage to draft back to back hall of fame caliber receivers like Harrison and Reggie Wayne but no, by and large QBs will have to deal with roster churn their entire careers.

And it will be among their skill position players. Mahomes got 4 years with Hill and Kelce - more than many get. He's played his entire career with Kelce and VERY few QBs (any?) have ever gotten that level of consistent production from any weapon, TE or otherwise for a period as long as Mahomes has gotten.

It's the nature of being a QB. QBs have 10-15 year NFL careers. Some longer than that even. And their skill guys are going to have 3-5 years at/near their peaks for the most part. A quarterback is likely to see 3 and maybe 4 'eras' in their career and in each era they're going to have to develop a new normal with the weapons they have.

It's silly to sit here and act like asking Mahomes to work through a rebuilding of his weapons over a season or even 3 is some unreasonable ask. It's what happens in this league to everyone. Quarterbacks outlast their weapons.

O.city · 12-20-2023, 02:53 PM

He's also had his entire career with the same HC , the same system etc.

It's ****ing kid gloves you wanna treat him with apparently.

O.city · 12-20-2023, 02:54 PM

If the only guys he can trust are a first ballot HOF WR'er and the greatest TE of all time, well **** we may in fact have an issue.

Mulliganman · 12-20-2023, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx

Why the **** he isn't getting a look in KC is beyond me.

If they don't sign him then they don't... but damn, at least kick the ****ing tires.

Wouldn't matter. He wouldn't learn Andy's playbook in time. I get the argument for maybe not added a guy at the trade deadline (not that I necessarily agree) but why not add somebody not a current roster at that time. I dunno maybe Ross's suspension kinda threw a wrench in the plans. But it'd be nice to know what we have there...

RunKC · 12-20-2023, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If the only guys he can trust are a first ballot HOF WR'er and the greatest TE of all time, well **** we may in fact have an issue.

Pretty sure he trusts the rookie WR and Watson and that evident last Sunday.

I wouldn't trust MVS, Skyy or Toney either. That's half of the ****ing WR room

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