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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****
They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 12-12-2023, 02:16 PM   #10021
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We don’t need 2 big FA WR. Just sign a cost-effective receiver to pair with Rice and Kelce and we’ll get the offense back

A couple months ago I would be 100% in agreement with you.


However, now seeing how tired Travis has looked in the last couple games, I‘m starting to think differently.


But maybe that’s just me.
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Old 12-12-2023, 02:21 PM   #10022
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A couple months ago I would be 100% in agreement with you.


However, now seeing how tired Travis has looked in the last couple games, I‘m starting to think differently.


But maybe that’s just me.
Yeah, Kelce's age means we can no longer try to just bandaid the weapons.

We need to look to a future without him and why not add the weapons that will be useful NOW and the future so Kelce goes out a 3 time Champion?
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Old 12-12-2023, 02:23 PM   #10023
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And all this horseshit about usage is just that.

Flowers has been mostly used in the short to intermediate range, just like Rice.

Rice has 11 YPC. Flowers has 10.
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Old 12-12-2023, 02:26 PM   #10024
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He's just gonna throw it to Kelce next time.
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Old 12-12-2023, 02:30 PM   #10025
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He's just gonna throw it to Kelce next time.

MVS.


Screw it. He is what he is. Trying to make into a real WR was a dumb idea.


Moving on.
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Old 12-12-2023, 02:32 PM   #10026
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MVS.


Screw it. He is what he is. Trying to make into a real WR was a dumb idea.


Moving on.
He helped us win last year as a decoy deep threat.

It worked well enough for a year but time to move on.
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Old 12-12-2023, 02:35 PM   #10027
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He's just gonna throw it to Kelce next time.
This is the type of thing that makes the Nagy, Embree and Andy criticisms seem weird.

MVS is in his 6th season. He's a veteran. He played in this exact offense last year. How the **** does he not know the right route to run?

They didn't completely change the playbook. They ran that route so many times last year.

Make it make sense.
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Old 12-12-2023, 02:38 PM   #10028
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He's just gonna throw it to Kelce next time.
There was a play later in the game where Kelce was open on a crosser, and MVS had his man beat by a step or two in the endzone, and Pat completed it to Kelce

Difference between a 12 yard gain and an incompletion in the endzone
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Old 12-12-2023, 02:45 PM   #10029
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This is the type of thing that makes the Nagy, Embree and Andy criticisms seem weird.

MVS is in his 6th season. He's a veteran. He played in this exact offense last year. How the **** does he not know the right route to run?

They didn't completely change the playbook. They ran that route so many times last year.

Make it make sense.
I don't think that's on MVS - not sure why Mahomes would be expecting MVS to sit there and allow the DB to close ground.

If Pat leads him to the sideline, all MVS needs is a block from Rice and he may score.
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Old 12-12-2023, 02:54 PM   #10030
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I don't think that's on MVS - not sure why Mahomes would be expecting MVS to sit there and allow the DB to close ground.
Really? MVS again tried to run into the safety.

Patrick threw the ball correctly. MVS was supposed to sit down.
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Old 12-12-2023, 02:58 PM   #10031
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Really? MVS again tried to run into the safety.

Patrick threw the ball correctly. MVS was supposed to sit down.
MVS has no way to know as he makes the break that the DB is going to get lost in space like that. With man over, it makes sense to push that to the sideline or the DB is very likely going to end up in your hip pocket.

I think Mahomes saw how badly the CB was beat and threw it as a stop, but MVS doesn't have eyes in the back of his head - he does not (cannot) realize that the CB has completely lost track of him like that. He has to assume reasonably sticky man coverage and taking that to the sideline there is the right call.

Throw comes in underneath the safety and in front of the CB. It's an easy completion.
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Really? MVS again tried to run into the safety.

Patrick threw the ball correctly. MVS was supposed to sit down.
Ron's right in the tweet - against man, you run FROM the defender.

The safety isn't making that play if MVS continues to the boundary.

The CB absolutely is if MVS sits down, because the ball is late. If Pat was expecting MVS to sit immediately out of his break, that ball is way late.
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Old 12-12-2023, 02:59 PM   #10033
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MVS has no way to know as he makes the break that the DB is going to get lost in space like that. With man over, it makes sense to push that to the sideline or the DB is very likely going to end up in your hip pocket.

I think Mahomes saw how badly the CB was beat and threw it as a stop, but MVS doesn't have eyes in the back of his head - he does not (cannot) realize that the CB has completely lost track of him like that. He has to assume reasonably sticky man coverage and taking that to the sideline there is the right call.

Throw comes in underneath the safety and in front of the CB. It's an easy completion.
This.
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Old 12-12-2023, 03:00 PM   #10034
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And all this horseshit about usage is just that.

Flowers has been mostly used in the short to intermediate range, just like Rice.

Rice has 11 YPC. Flowers has 10.
Not to belabor the point but flowers has 2x Rashees depth of target and has a number of 20+ yd air yard receptions. They are not being used the same way.

Rashee has been primarily used as a power slot and many on here would like for Reid to use him more aggressively. But what he’s done so far has been excellent
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MVS has no way to know as he makes the break that the DB is going to get lost in space like that. With man over, it makes sense to push that to the sideline or the DB is very likely going to end up in your hip pocket.

I think Mahomes saw how badly the CB was beat and threw it as a stop, but MVS doesn't have eyes in the back of his head - he does not (cannot) realize that the CB has completely lost track of him like that. He has to assume reasonably sticky man coverage and taking that to the sideline there is the right call.

Throw comes in underneath the safety and in front of the CB. It's an easy completion.
So is Patrick improvising on the fly? Because that seems like a bad idea on plays that aren't broken/extended
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