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Rabbi Goldmann
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Join Date: Aug 2017
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The Big 12 is still a strong conference. But it is a marriage of convenience for all parties. BYU, UCF, Cincy, and Houston are joining because it is the next step up the ladder. Natural progression. |
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#9993 |
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Join Date: Aug 2017
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#9994 |
Ultrabanned
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: North da River
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#9995 |
I’m a Mahomo!
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mid-Missouri
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New Conference re-alignment thread
John Canzano:
https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzan...the-rest-of-us Q: I saw a piece last week about Hawaii maybe being a candidate for Pac-10 membership. New stadium underway and not a bad TV market. Wonder what your Fox media expert thinks? — @KenHollaren A: Hawaii is a beautiful place to visit, but the state has only 445,000 television households. That ranks Hawaii the No. 65 market (DMA) in the country. For that reason, it’s not a great expansion option. Also, the travel is tough. Q: Would it make more sense for the #Pac12 to merge with the #Big12 or the #ACC? — @MarkMcClune A: The ACC television markets are dramatically better. There are 28.2 million total number of households in the ACC footprint. After the Big 12’s coming expansion, it will have only 15 million households. It’s not close. But… if you could somehow partner with the ACC, and merge with the Big 12, wouldn’t everyone be better off? Q: In regards to Pac-12 expansion candidates - cable companies use local DMA to assign value to a college team, what would streaming providers use? — @DRS12103051 A: I asked Bob Thompson, the former Fox Sports Network president, this very question. He told me with Hulu, Google TV and Fubo TV and others that act like cable companies (but distribute via internet) Nielsen incorporates their ratings into a network’s overall rating. But Apple TV+ and Amazon Prime Video can tell how many homes are watching a stream of show/game at any given time. Apple and Amazon also take into account subscription gains. Q: Does California Gov. Newsom’s issues with UCLA leave a window cracked for Oregon to replace them in the Big Ten if it becomes too muddled for UCLA? — @Deafdux A: Feels like the bond holders of the UC system may have a bigger beef. But let’s assume UCLA does reverse course for the sake of argument. Oregon’s potential annual media value (~$30 million) is going to fall well short of the $71 million it takes to justify cutting them into the conference with a full share. But I think the Ducks would get consideration because of their brand. So would Stanford (Bay Area TV market + academic prestige) and Washington (Seattle TV market). That trio presents an interesting barstool debate. Q: When comparing PAC 12 TV markets, how is the Portland market assigned to OSU and Oregon if it is at all? — @Ralong27 A: Both Oregon and Oregon State get credit for the 1,143,670 million TV households in the Portland (and beyond) region. Here’s a good look at the TV picture in college football. Q: The panic of realignment has seemed to have died down with the remaining PAC-10/12 teams. Given Rick George’s comments on USC and UCLA, do either teams have to prove their worth this season? Do you think remaining teams who have USC/UCLA on the schedule have that game circled? — @JoeInOregon87 A: The hostility for the Trojans and Bruins is going to be an interesting study this football season. It will be real. I also think UCLA, which has been so-so in recent years in the Pac-12, is going to struggle to matter in the Big Ten. Q: Does Phil Knight approve of the Pac-10 staying together? — @ValyaIvanova9 A: I had a well-placed source tell me that he didn’t think Phil Knight donated all those millions over the years for UO to get left in the college football minor leagues. I wrote recently about Knight’s role in this process. I believe he wants Oregon to matter and will do whatever it takes to help position the Ducks for success. Q: Other than the loss of prestige, would OSU/WSU be better off if the Pac-12 does break up completely? In an expanded playoff, there will be a spot for a “non power 5” and I see an easier path to be that team than a champ of a major conference. — @EastboundFitzN A: I suspect the vast majority of at-large berths for an expanded playoff would likely land with the Big Ten and SEC programs. Those two “Super” pigs are busy trying to monopolize the system and “game” in their favor. The media revenue from being in a major conference is a game changer. It’s why the Pac-12 needs a “Hail Mary” in this round of negotiations. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by KChiefs1; 07-16-2022 at 10:53 AM.. |
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#9996 |
Inmem 2.0
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: My house
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I wonder if Self will be able to read this thread when he's in jail
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#9997 |
Ultrabanned
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: North da River
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#9998 |
Inmem 2.0
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: My house
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#9999 |
Rabbi Goldmann
Join Date: Nov 2012
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#10000 |
Rock Chalk Jayhawk
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: PA
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When the Broncos played the Redskins in the Super Bowl my dad rooted for the Broncos for divisional allegiance. I couldn't understand why he would root for a team that you actively root against in games and for championships the rest of the year. I still don't.
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#10001 |
MVP
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Studio City, CA
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#10002 |
**** the Raiders
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: A Webb of chaos
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There is an argument to be made for it in college sports (I don’t subscribe to it but, it is a legitimate argument) but, there is no logical reason for it the pros.
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#10003 |
MVP
Join Date: Oct 2012
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College Football/Basketball doesn’t exist.
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Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2014
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One has always had a true playoff. No matter what, one team from your conference will make it to the championship. TV contracts, apparel, etc are negotiated as a league. The AFC West (or any division) is secure for the next 200 years. The draft supplies all teams/conferences with the same opportunity for obtaining talent. Rooting against your conference rivals makes so much more sense in the pro leagues. College on the other hand, is every conference for itself. All conferences are competition to one another for dollars, recruits, bowls and now playoff access. Conference foes winning national championships, bowls and games against other conferences helps the rest of the league, financially and their status. With that said, it matters more for the B12, P12, ACC etc. so ISU or Tech fans were probably rooting for KU in the final four. On the other hand, I’m sure most of the SEC teams feel secure enough in their conference, that it makes much less sense for them to root for one another. Last edited by kcclone; 07-17-2022 at 02:58 PM.. |
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Ultrabanned
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: North da River
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SEC goons love putting their tongue up Bama's ass and tasting their success second-hand. mutt losers like PGM were definitely jizzing over this last title game and saying stuff like "I don't care who pulls it out, it's a win for the conference either way!!" Last edited by Pablo; 07-17-2022 at 04:58 PM.. |
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