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MatriculatingHank · 10-03-2024, 06:58 PM

You can have any running back in NFL history. Who you going with?

**Easy 6** · Yesterday, 02:35 PM

Jerome Bettis

**Easy 6** · Yesterday, 02:38 PM

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My mother in law. Nobody can stop that bitch once she gets a full head of steam.

Calcountry · Yesterday, 03:10 PM

Marcus dove over the line of scrimmage, making him almost unstoppable on 3rd and one from the goal line. I read back through half the thread, and didn't see any Barry Sanders mentions, probably because that dude converted on too many first and tens.

DenverChief · Yesterday, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Splits on pro-football reference.

They don't have them for anything prior to 1994 so I was a little disappointed that I couldn't find Allen's career stats.

Then I saw how hilariously insane his stats with KC were and decided I didn't care that much. I mean seriously? 85% of the time they gave him the ball on 3rd and short he converted? What in the cheat coding **** is that?!?!

Ah. I was looking there and I must have missed them.

**Rain Man** · Yesterday, 03:19 PM

I'm running splits on PFR for the Chiefs players, and here are the results for the seven players since 1994 who had 30 or more attempts on 3rd down and 1-3 yards. (I'm too lazy to combine with 4th and 1-3, so you'll take this and like it.

0.841 - Marcus Allen (58 of 69)
0.709 - Larry Johnson (61 of 86)
0.696 - Tony Richardson (32 of 46)
0.663 - Priest Holmes (55 of 83)
0.656 - Spencer Ware (21 of 32)
0.649 - Jamaal Charles (37 of 57)
0.581 - Donnell Bennett (25 of 43)

I'll note that Jamaal had the largest yards/attempt in this situation, which means he broke more runs off for large gains. Larry and Priest had a ton of touchdowns in these situations, which means their yards per attempt is going to be underrated. But the bottom line is, yeah, give it to Marcus.

If I take away the 30 attempts rule, then we find the real king of 3rd and short for the Chiefs, which is of course Trent Green. But you're in good hands when Patrick Mahomes II decides to run as well.

Of course, I suspect QBs have an advantage here on 3rd down because they're probably deciding to run it when they see a lane, and they don't run often when they don't.

If we're just talking running backs, your best bet after Marcus Allen is Shaun Draughn or Rashan Shehee. But I bet you knew that already.

On another note, Kareem Hunt has historically good at 3rd and short just in case we need that.

1 - Trent Green (8 of 8)
1 - Travis Kelce (1 of 1)
1 - Todd Collins (1 of 1)
1 - Tamarick Vanover (1 of 1)
1 - Shaun Smith (1 of 1)
1 - Noah Gray (1 of 1)
1 - Leroy Thompson (4 of 4)
1 - Joe Montana (1 of 1)
1 - Dontari Poe (1 of 1)
1 - De'Anthony Thomas (1 of 1)
1 - Darwin Thompson (3 of 3)
1 - Cyrus Gray (2 of 2)
1 - Brodie Croyle (1 of 1)
1 - Blake Bell (3 of 3)
1 - Albert Wilson (1 of 1)
0.917 - Patrick Mahomes (22 of 24)
0.841 - Marcus Allen (58 of 69)
0.833 - Steve Bono (5 of 6)
0.833 - Shaun Draughn (5 of 6)
0.833 - Rich Gannon (5 of 6)
0.833 - Rashaan Shehee (5 of 6)
0.833 - Anthony Sherman (5 of 6)
0.81 - Alex Smith (17 of 21)
0.8 - Dantrell Savage (4 of 5)
0.769 - Jackie Battle (10 of 13)
0.765 - Kareem Hunt (13 of 17)
0.75 - Tyler Thigpen (3 of 4)
0.75 - Derrick Blaylock (6 of 8)
0.737 - Charcandrick West (14 of 19)
0.727 - Michael Burton (8 of 11)
0.709 - Larry Johnson (61 of 86)
0.696 - Tony Richardson (32 of 46)
0.692 - Matt Cassel (9 of 13)
0.667 - Samaje Perine (2 of 3)
0.667 - LeSean McCoy (4 of 6)
0.667 - Dante Hall (2 of 3)
0.663 - Priest Holmes (55 of 83)
0.656 - Spencer Ware (21 of 32)
0.65 - Isiah Pacheco (13 of 20)
0.649 - Jamaal Charles (37 of 57)
0.636 - Damien Williams (7 of 11)
0.625 - Frank Moreau (5 of 8)
0.625 - Clyde Edwards-Helaire (10 of 16)
0.6 - Elvis Grbac (3 of 5)
0.591 - Darrel Williams (13 of 22)
0.581 - Donnell Bennett (25 of 43)
0.556 - Jerick McKinnon (5 of 9)
0.545 - Dexter McCluster (6 of 11)
0.538 - Bam Morris (7 of 13)
0.526 - Kolby Smith (10 of 19)
0.5 - Tyler Palko (1 of 2)
0.5 - Peyton Hillis (4 of 8)
0.5 - Mike Cloud (3 of 6)
0.5 - Michael Bennett (1 of 2)
0.5 - La'Mical Perine (1 of 2)
0.5 - Kimble Anders (8 of 16)
0.5 - Kadarius Toney (1 of 2)
0.5 - Javier Arenas (1 of 2)
0.5 - Carson Steele (1 of 2)
0.444 - Greg Hill (4 of 9)
0.364 - Knile Davis (4 of 11)
0.353 - Thomas Jones (6 of 17)
0.333 - Tyreek Hill (2 of 6)
0.333 - Le'Veon Bell (1 of 3)
0.333 - Derrick Gore (1 of 3)
0 - Tim Castille (0 of 2)
0 - Rashee Rice (0 of 1)
0 - Nate Eachus (0 of 1)
0 - Mecole Hardman (0 of 1)
0 - Le'Ron McClain (0 of 1)
0 - Kyle Orton (0 of 1)
0 - Gilbert Harris (0 of 1)
0 - Dee Brown (0 of 2)
0 - Damon Huard (0 of 1)
0 - Brady Quinn (0 of 1)
0 - Akeem Hunt (0 of 1)

**Easy 6** · Yesterday, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Calcountry

Marcus dove over the line of scrimmage, making him almost unstoppable on 3rd and one from the goal line. I read back through half the thread, and didn't see any Barry Sanders mentions, probably because that dude converted on too many first and tens.

Yeah Barry was dynamite on a 3rd & 10 draw, but he was maybe the worst ever HOF'er at short yardage... dude lost a lotta yards looking for the homerun in short situations

Pasta Little Brioni · Yesterday, 03:43 PM

Prime LaDanian Tomlinson?

Otter · Yesterday, 03:46 PM

Marcus Allen

bigjosh · Yesterday, 03:49 PM

Mike alstott or jerome bettis

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MVChiefs · Yesterday, 04:01 PM

1998 Terrell Davis

**Rain Man** · Yesterday, 04:04 PM

I took a look at all of the players who made more than 30 first downs on 3rd and 1-3 yards. Here's their success rate. As you'll see, the top of the list is dominated by quarterbacks, who had latitude to run or pass, with likely a lot of improvised runs.

The bottom of the list may be a bit unfair, because there may be some guys who had a lot of attempts and converted fewer than 30. There doesn't seem to be a way to build a list that way on PFR, so we may be missing some of the least effective players. We can say definitively that Michael Pittman should not be given the ball in this situation, though.

Note that Mahomes is at .917 (22 of 24), but doesn't have enough conversions to get on the list yet.

Spoiler!

**Rain Man** · Yesterday, 04:14 PM

If we filter out the quarterbacks, here's the list. Again, this ranks only guys who converted 30+ plays that were 3rd and 1-3 yards.

It appears that the kings of 3rd and short are fullbacks, believe it or not. It really shows how amazing Marcus Allen was that he's up there with the clydesdale running backs.

The median guy on this list is Tiki Barber at 0.652 likelihood, so anyone above him is above average. The top ten percent starts with John Kuhn at .727 likelihood.

Spoiler!

KCJake · Yesterday, 04:22 PM

Jalen Hurts and the tush push is basically unstoppable. Special mention, Mike Alstott

Pasta Little Brioni · Yesterday, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJake

Jalen Hurts and the tush push is basically unstoppable. Special mention, Mike Alstott

They said running back so if you said Lamar. Sure..

**Bearcat** · Yesterday, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

0.917 - Lousaka Polite (33 of 36)

He seems nice.

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Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	I'm running splits on PFR for the Chiefs players, and here are the results for the seven players since 1994 who had 30 or more attempts on 3rd down and 1-3 yards. (I'm too lazy to combine with 4th and 1-3, so you'll take this and like it. 0.841 - Marcus Allen (58 of 69) 0.709 - Larry Johnson (61 of 86) 0.696 - Tony Richardson (32 of 46) 0.663 - Priest Holmes (55 of 83) 0.656 - Spencer Ware (21 of 32) 0.649 - Jamaal Charles (37 of 57) 0.581 - Donnell Bennett (25 of 43) I'll note that Jamaal had the largest yards/attempt in this situation, which means he broke more runs off for large gains. Larry and Priest had a ton of touchdowns in these situations, which means their yards per attempt is going to be underrated. But the bottom line is, yeah, give it to Marcus. If I take away the 30 attempts rule, then we find the real king of 3rd and short for the Chiefs, which is of course Trent Green. But you're in good hands when Patrick Mahomes II decides to run as well. Of course, I suspect QBs have an advantage here on 3rd down because they're probably deciding to run it when they see a lane, and they don't run often when they don't. If we're just talking running backs, your best bet after Marcus Allen is Shaun Draughn or Rashan Shehee. But I bet you knew that already. On another note, Kareem Hunt has historically good at 3rd and short just in case we need that. 1 - Trent Green (8 of 8) 1 - Travis Kelce (1 of 1) 1 - Todd Collins (1 of 1) 1 - Tamarick Vanover (1 of 1) 1 - Shaun Smith (1 of 1) 1 - Noah Gray (1 of 1) 1 - Leroy Thompson (4 of 4) 1 - Joe Montana (1 of 1) 1 - Dontari Poe (1 of 1) 1 - De'Anthony Thomas (1 of 1) 1 - Darwin Thompson (3 of 3) 1 - Cyrus Gray (2 of 2) 1 - Brodie Croyle (1 of 1) 1 - Blake Bell (3 of 3) 1 - Albert Wilson (1 of 1) 0.917 - Patrick Mahomes (22 of 24) 0.841 - Marcus Allen (58 of 69) 0.833 - Steve Bono (5 of 6) 0.833 - Shaun Draughn (5 of 6) 0.833 - Rich Gannon (5 of 6) 0.833 - Rashaan Shehee (5 of 6) 0.833 - Anthony Sherman (5 of 6) 0.81 - Alex Smith (17 of 21) 0.8 - Dantrell Savage (4 of 5) 0.769 - Jackie Battle (10 of 13) 0.765 - Kareem Hunt (13 of 17) 0.75 - Tyler Thigpen (3 of 4) 0.75 - Derrick Blaylock (6 of 8) 0.737 - Charcandrick West (14 of 19) 0.727 - Michael Burton (8 of 11) 0.709 - Larry Johnson (61 of 86) 0.696 - Tony Richardson (32 of 46) 0.692 - Matt Cassel (9 of 13) 0.667 - Samaje Perine (2 of 3) 0.667 - LeSean McCoy (4 of 6) 0.667 - Dante Hall (2 of 3) 0.663 - Priest Holmes (55 of 83) 0.656 - Spencer Ware (21 of 32) 0.65 - Isiah Pacheco (13 of 20) 0.649 - Jamaal Charles (37 of 57) 0.636 - Damien Williams (7 of 11) 0.625 - Frank Moreau (5 of 8) 0.625 - Clyde Edwards-Helaire (10 of 16) 0.6 - Elvis Grbac (3 of 5) 0.591 - Darrel Williams (13 of 22) 0.581 - Donnell Bennett (25 of 43) 0.556 - Jerick McKinnon (5 of 9) 0.545 - Dexter McCluster (6 of 11) 0.538 - Bam Morris (7 of 13) 0.526 - Kolby Smith (10 of 19) 0.5 - Tyler Palko (1 of 2) 0.5 - Peyton Hillis (4 of 8) 0.5 - Mike Cloud (3 of 6) 0.5 - Michael Bennett (1 of 2) 0.5 - La'Mical Perine (1 of 2) 0.5 - Kimble Anders (8 of 16) 0.5 - Kadarius Toney (1 of 2) 0.5 - Javier Arenas (1 of 2) 0.5 - Carson Steele (1 of 2) 0.444 - Greg Hill (4 of 9) 0.364 - Knile Davis (4 of 11) 0.353 - Thomas Jones (6 of 17) 0.333 - Tyreek Hill (2 of 6) 0.333 - Le'Veon Bell (1 of 3) 0.333 - Derrick Gore (1 of 3) 0 - Tim Castille (0 of 2) 0 - Rashee Rice (0 of 1) 0 - Nate Eachus (0 of 1) 0 - Mecole Hardman (0 of 1) 0 - Le'Ron McClain (0 of 1) 0 - Kyle Orton (0 of 1) 0 - Gilbert Harris (0 of 1) 0 - Dee Brown (0 of 2) 0 - Damon Huard (0 of 1) 0 - Brady Quinn (0 of 1) 0 - Akeem Hunt (0 of 1)
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Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	I took a look at all of the players who made more than 30 first downs on 3rd and 1-3 yards. Here's their success rate. As you'll see, the top of the list is dominated by quarterbacks, who had latitude to run or pass, with likely a lot of improvised runs. The bottom of the list may be a bit unfair, because there may be some guys who had a lot of attempts and converted fewer than 30. There doesn't seem to be a way to build a list that way on PFR, so we may be missing some of the least effective players. We can say definitively that Michael Pittman should not be given the ball in this situation, though. Note that Mahomes is at .917 (22 of 24), but doesn't have enough conversions to get on the list yet. Spoiler! 0.942 - Drew Brees (49 of 52) 0.938 - Jeff Garcia (45 of 48) 0.919 - Ryan Tannehill (34 of 37) 0.917 - Lousaka Polite (33 of 36) 0.889 - Andrew Luck (32 of 36) 0.879 - Tom Brady (109 of 124) 0.875 - David Garrard (49 of 56) 0.857 - Carson Wentz (36 of 42) 0.857 - Jimmy Garoppolo (36 of 42) 0.841 - Marcus Allen (58 of 69) 0.84 - Dak Prescott (42 of 50) 0.839 - Drew Bledsoe (52 of 62) 0.837 - Jake Plummer (41 of 49) 0.833 - Jalen Hurts (60 of 72) 0.828 - Steve McNair (72 of 87) 0.828 - Matt Ryan (48 of 58) 0.821 - Ryan Fitzpatrick (46 of 56) 0.811 - Alex Smith (30 of 37) 0.805 - Carson Palmer (33 of 41) 0.804 - Cam Newton (131 of 163) 0.8 - Donovan McNabb (44 of 55) 0.8 - Marcus Mariota (36 of 45) 0.797 - Michael Vick (55 of 69) 0.795 - Shonn Greene (31 of 39) 0.789 - Mack Strong (30 of 38) 0.781 - Daunte Culpepper (50 of 64) 0.78 - Andy Dalton (46 of 59) 0.779 - Josh Allen (74 of 95) 0.775 - Aaron Brooks (31 of 40) 0.774 - Aaron Rodgers (48 of 62) 0.769 - Lamar Jackson (70 of 91) 0.767 - Fred Beasley (33 of 43) 0.764 - Joe Flacco (42 of 55) 0.76 - Gus Edwards (57 of 75) 0.758 - Derrick Henry (69 of 91) 0.756 - Rex Burkhead (31 of 41) 0.75 - Russell Wilson (51 of 68) 0.75 - Brett Favre (39 of 52) 0.738 - Joseph Addai (62 of 84) 0.737 - DeMarco Murray (70 of 95) 0.737 - Tony Richardson (42 of 57) 0.734 - Chris Carson (47 of 64) 0.733 - Mark Brunell (33 of 45) 0.731 - James Conner (57 of 78) 0.729 - Ben Roethlisberger (43 of 59) 0.727 - John Kuhn (32 of 44) 0.723 - Ezekiel Elliott (107 of 148) 0.72 - Kordell Stewart (54 of 75) 0.718 - BenJarvus Green-Ellis (56 of 78) 0.717 - Adrian Peterson (109 of 152) 0.717 - Rodney Hampton (43 of 60) 0.715 - Ahman Green (103 of 144) 0.714 - Corey Dillon (110 of 154) 0.714 - Duce Staley (50 of 70) 0.712 - Cadillac Williams (37 of 52) 0.711 - Larry Johnson (64 of 90) 0.709 - Devonta Freeman (39 of 55) 0.708 - Jonathan Stewart (51 of 72) 0.708 - Moe Williams (34 of 48) 0.708 - Ronnie Brown (63 of 89) 0.704 - Tyrone Wheatley (38 of 54) 0.703 - Jamaal Williams (52 of 74) 0.698 - Stephen Davis (81 of 116) 0.696 - Brad Hoover (32 of 46) 0.695 - LeSean McCoy (89 of 128) 0.694 - AJ Dillon (34 of 49) 0.692 - Chris Ivory (54 of 78) 0.691 - Melvin Gordon (56 of 81) 0.691 - Aaron Jones (38 of 55) 0.691 - Bam Morris (38 of 55) 0.689 - Garrison Hearst (42 of 61) 0.688 - Alfred Morris (33 of 48) 0.688 - Peyton Hillis (33 of 48) 0.687 - Jamal Anderson (46 of 67) 0.686 - Tony Pollard (35 of 51) 0.684 - Arian Foster (67 of 98) 0.683 - Mark Ingram (71 of 104) 0.683 - Edgerrin James (114 of 167) 0.683 - Michael Turner (43 of 63) 0.682 - LenDale White (30 of 44) 0.681 - Jamal Lewis (64 of 94) 0.68 - Leonard Fournette (51 of 75) 0.679 - Sony Michel (36 of 53) 0.679 - Latavius Murray (74 of 109) 0.678 - Jerome Bettis (120 of 177) 0.674 - Pierre Thomas (31 of 46) 0.673 - Chuba Hubbard (33 of 49) 0.673 - LaDainian Tomlinson (105 of 156) 0.669 - Eddie George (93 of 139) 0.667 - Chris Warren (50 of 75) 0.667 - LaMont Jordan (48 of 72) 0.667 - Taysom Hill (40 of 60) 0.667 - Rashad Jennings (38 of 57) 0.667 - Jordan Howard (36 of 54) 0.663 - Joe Mixon (55 of 83) 0.661 - Jamaal Charles (41 of 62) 0.661 - Miles Sanders (39 of 59) 0.661 - Mike Tolbert (39 of 59) 0.661 - David Johnson (37 of 56) 0.657 - Alvin Kamara (46 of 70) 0.655 - Dalvin Cook (38 of 58) 0.654 - Darren Sproles (34 of 52) 0.653 - Warrick Dunn (62 of 95) 0.652 - Tiki Barber (73 of 112) 0.649 - Shaun Alexander (72 of 111) 0.647 - Priest Holmes (66 of 102) 0.647 - Kareem Hunt (44 of 68) 0.647 - Bernie Parmalee (33 of 51) 0.644 - Zack Crockett (56 of 87) 0.643 - Reuben Droughns (45 of 70) 0.643 - Sammy Morris (45 of 70) 0.642 - Travis Henry (34 of 53) 0.641 - Curtis Martin (134 of 209) 0.639 - Brandon Jacobs (53 of 83) 0.638 - Rudi Johnson (44 of 69) 0.638 - Chris Johnson (51 of 80) 0.636 - Brian Westbrook (49 of 77) 0.636 - David Montgomery (49 of 77) 0.636 - Willis McGahee (75 of 118) 0.634 - Marion Barber (71 of 112) 0.633 - Le'Veon Bell (50 of 79) 0.632 - Mike Alstott (84 of 133) 0.632 - Christian McCaffrey (36 of 57) 0.632 - DeAngelo Williams (36 of 57) 0.632 - Harvey Williams (36 of 57) 0.63 - Terrell Davis (68 of 108) 0.627 - Ray Rice (37 of 59) 0.626 - Ricky Williams (72 of 115) 0.625 - Julius Jones (30 of 48) 0.623 - Carlos Hyde (38 of 61) 0.621 - Reggie Bush (36 of 58) 0.62 - Errict Rhett (44 of 71) 0.619 - Ricky Watters (73 of 118) 0.618 - Antowain Smith (55 of 89) 0.617 - Steven Jackson (95 of 154) 0.617 - Marshall Faulk (111 of 180) 0.614 - T.J. Duckett (35 of 57) 0.612 - Deuce McAllister (60 of 98) 0.612 - James Stewart (52 of 85) 0.61 - Emmitt Smith (105 of 172) 0.61 - Doug Martin (36 of 59) 0.609 - Adrian Murrell (42 of 69) 0.608 - Fred Jackson (45 of 74) 0.607 - Jonathan Taylor (51 of 84) 0.605 - Clinton Portis (69 of 114) 0.603 - Cedric Benson (47 of 78) 0.602 - Dorsey Levens (50 of 83) 0.593 - Ahmad Bradshaw (51 of 86) 0.593 - Marshawn Lynch (80 of 135) 0.589 - Todd Gurley (56 of 95) 0.589 - Josh Jacobs (43 of 73) 0.586 - Michael Bush (34 of 58) 0.583 - Terry Allen (49 of 84) 0.583 - Natrone Means (42 of 72) 0.583 - Mike Anderson (35 of 60) 0.583 - Matt Forte (67 of 115) 0.578 - Maurice Jones-Drew (89 of 154) 0.574 - Lamar Miller (31 of 54) 0.567 - Fred Taylor (55 of 97) 0.557 - Thurman Thomas (39 of 70) 0.548 - Ron Dayne (40 of 73) 0.547 - Chester Taylor (35 of 64) 0.545 - DeShaun Foster (30 of 55) 0.544 - Thomas Jones (81 of 149) 0.543 - Frank Gore (94 of 173) 0.541 - Anthony Thomas (33 of 61) 0.54 - Barry Sanders (34 of 63) 0.536 - Gary Brown (30 of 56) 0.529 - Karim Abdul-Jabbar (36 of 68) 0.526 - Giovani Bernard (30 of 57) 0.513 - LeGarrette Blount (39 of 76) 0.506 - Lamar Smith (40 of 79) 0.5 - Austin Ekeler (34 of 68) 0.471 - Michael Pittman (32 of 68) Last edited by Rain Man; Yesterday at 04:17 PM..
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Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	If we filter out the quarterbacks, here's the list. Again, this ranks only guys who converted 30+ plays that were 3rd and 1-3 yards. It appears that the kings of 3rd and short are fullbacks, believe it or not. It really shows how amazing Marcus Allen was that he's up there with the clydesdale running backs. The median guy on this list is Tiki Barber at 0.652 likelihood, so anyone above him is above average. The top ten percent starts with John Kuhn at .727 likelihood. Spoiler! 0.917 - Lousaka Polite (33 of 36) 0.841 - Marcus Allen (58 of 69) 0.795 - Shonn Greene (31 of 39) 0.789 - Mack Strong (30 of 38) 0.767 - Fred Beasley (33 of 43) 0.76 - Gus Edwards (57 of 75) 0.758 - Derrick Henry (69 of 91) 0.756 - Rex Burkhead (31 of 41) 0.738 - Joseph Addai (62 of 84) 0.737 - DeMarco Murray (70 of 95) 0.737 - Tony Richardson (42 of 57) 0.734 - Chris Carson (47 of 64) 0.731 - James Conner (57 of 78) 0.727 - John Kuhn (32 of 44) 0.723 - Ezekiel Elliott (107 of 148) 0.718 - BenJarvus Green-Ellis (56 of 78) 0.717 - Adrian Peterson (109 of 152) 0.717 - Rodney Hampton (43 of 60) 0.715 - Ahman Green (103 of 144) 0.714 - Corey Dillon (110 of 154) 0.714 - Duce Staley (50 of 70) 0.712 - Cadillac Williams (37 of 52) 0.711 - Larry Johnson (64 of 90) 0.709 - Devonta Freeman (39 of 55) 0.708 - Jonathan Stewart (51 of 72) 0.708 - Moe Williams (34 of 48) 0.708 - Ronnie Brown (63 of 89) 0.704 - Tyrone Wheatley (38 of 54) 0.703 - Jamaal Williams (52 of 74) 0.698 - Stephen Davis (81 of 116) 0.696 - Brad Hoover (32 of 46) 0.695 - LeSean McCoy (89 of 128) 0.694 - AJ Dillon (34 of 49) 0.692 - Chris Ivory (54 of 78) 0.691 - Melvin Gordon (56 of 81) 0.691 - Aaron Jones (38 of 55) 0.691 - Bam Morris (38 of 55) 0.689 - Garrison Hearst (42 of 61) 0.688 - Alfred Morris (33 of 48) 0.688 - Peyton Hillis (33 of 48) 0.687 - Jamal Anderson (46 of 67) 0.686 - Tony Pollard (35 of 51) 0.684 - Arian Foster (67 of 98) 0.683 - Mark Ingram (71 of 104) 0.683 - Edgerrin James (114 of 167) 0.683 - Michael Turner (43 of 63) 0.682 - LenDale White (30 of 44) 0.681 - Jamal Lewis (64 of 94) 0.68 - Leonard Fournette (51 of 75) 0.679 - Sony Michel (36 of 53) 0.679 - Latavius Murray (74 of 109) 0.678 - Jerome Bettis (120 of 177) 0.674 - Pierre Thomas (31 of 46) 0.673 - Chuba Hubbard (33 of 49) 0.673 - LaDainian Tomlinson (105 of 156) 0.669 - Eddie George (93 of 139) 0.667 - Chris Warren (50 of 75) 0.667 - LaMont Jordan (48 of 72) 0.667 - Rashad Jennings (38 of 57) 0.667 - Jordan Howard (36 of 54) 0.663 - Joe Mixon (55 of 83) 0.661 - Jamaal Charles (41 of 62) 0.661 - Miles Sanders (39 of 59) 0.661 - Mike Tolbert (39 of 59) 0.661 - David Johnson (37 of 56) 0.657 - Alvin Kamara (46 of 70) 0.655 - Dalvin Cook (38 of 58) 0.654 - Darren Sproles (34 of 52) 0.653 - Warrick Dunn (62 of 95) 0.652 - Tiki Barber (73 of 112) 0.649 - Shaun Alexander (72 of 111) 0.647 - Priest Holmes (66 of 102) 0.647 - Kareem Hunt (44 of 68) 0.647 - Bernie Parmalee (33 of 51) 0.644 - Zack Crockett (56 of 87) 0.643 - Reuben Droughns (45 of 70) 0.643 - Sammy Morris (45 of 70) 0.642 - Travis Henry (34 of 53) 0.641 - Curtis Martin (134 of 209) 0.639 - Brandon Jacobs (53 of 83) 0.638 - Rudi Johnson (44 of 69) 0.638 - Chris Johnson (51 of 80) 0.636 - Brian Westbrook (49 of 77) 0.636 - David Montgomery (49 of 77) 0.636 - Willis McGahee (75 of 118) 0.634 - Marion Barber (71 of 112) 0.633 - Le'Veon Bell (50 of 79) 0.632 - Mike Alstott (84 of 133) 0.632 - Christian McCaffrey (36 of 57) 0.632 - DeAngelo Williams (36 of 57) 0.632 - Harvey Williams (36 of 57) 0.63 - Terrell Davis (68 of 108) 0.627 - Ray Rice (37 of 59) 0.626 - Ricky Williams (72 of 115) 0.625 - Julius Jones (30 of 48) 0.623 - Carlos Hyde (38 of 61) 0.621 - Reggie Bush (36 of 58) 0.62 - Errict Rhett (44 of 71) 0.619 - Ricky Watters (73 of 118) 0.618 - Antowain Smith (55 of 89) 0.617 - Steven Jackson (95 of 154) 0.617 - Marshall Faulk (111 of 180) 0.614 - T.J. Duckett (35 of 57) 0.612 - Deuce McAllister (60 of 98) 0.612 - James Stewart (52 of 85) 0.61 - Emmitt Smith (105 of 172) 0.61 - Doug Martin (36 of 59) 0.609 - Adrian Murrell (42 of 69) 0.608 - Fred Jackson (45 of 74) 0.607 - Jonathan Taylor (51 of 84) 0.605 - Clinton Portis (69 of 114) 0.603 - Cedric Benson (47 of 78) 0.602 - Dorsey Levens (50 of 83) 0.593 - Ahmad Bradshaw (51 of 86) 0.593 - Marshawn Lynch (80 of 135) 0.589 - Todd Gurley (56 of 95) 0.589 - Josh Jacobs (43 of 73) 0.586 - Michael Bush (34 of 58) 0.583 - Terry Allen (49 of 84) 0.583 - Natrone Means (42 of 72) 0.583 - Mike Anderson (35 of 60) 0.583 - Matt Forte (67 of 115) 0.578 - Maurice Jones-Drew (89 of 154) 0.574 - Lamar Miller (31 of 54) 0.567 - Fred Taylor (55 of 97) 0.557 - Thurman Thomas (39 of 70) 0.548 - Ron Dayne (40 of 73) 0.547 - Chester Taylor (35 of 64) 0.545 - DeShaun Foster (30 of 55) 0.544 - Thomas Jones (81 of 149) 0.543 - Frank Gore (94 of 173) 0.541 - Anthony Thomas (33 of 61) 0.54 - Barry Sanders (34 of 63) 0.536 - Gary Brown (30 of 56) 0.529 - Karim Abdul-Jabbar (36 of 68) 0.526 - Giovani Bernard (30 of 57) 0.513 - LeGarrette Blount (39 of 76) 0.506 - Lamar Smith (40 of 79) 0.5 - Austin Ekeler (34 of 68) 0.471 - Michael Pittman (32 of 68)
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KCJake Veteran Join Date: Aug 2003	Jalen Hurts and the tush push is basically unstoppable. Special mention, Mike Alstott
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