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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****
They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 11-30-2023, 12:35 PM   #8371
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The Mahomes money had to be converted by a certain date. They wouldn't do that just in case if they didn't have a need for it.
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Old 11-30-2023, 12:41 PM   #8372
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They let their #1 WR from a SB winner go with no replacement and instead went shopping for defensive depth and nice to haves.
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Old 11-30-2023, 12:41 PM   #8373
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The Mahomes money had to be converted by a certain date. They wouldn't do that just in case if they didn't have a need for it.
They had a need for it.
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Old 11-30-2023, 12:42 PM   #8374
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Too early. Had a great week but with this group we don't even know that Justin Watson doesn't get 10+ targets again as he did 2 weeks ago.
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Old 11-30-2023, 12:43 PM   #8375
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The Mahomes money had to be converted by a certain date. They wouldn't do that just in case if they didn't have a need for it.
But they did need it if people are so sure we wanted to sign Hopkins.

And then they still did it when they didn't need to.
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But they did need it if people are so sure we wanted to sign Hopkins.

And then they still did it when they didn't need to.
They either didn't want to sign Hopkins, or they thought they'd have enough to do it without it.

They converted some, but IIRC, it wasn't near the max amount they could have. They won't do it anymore, they're not gnona have a single player over 25% of the cap
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Old 11-30-2023, 12:44 PM   #8377
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That's not fair to skyy moore if we throw 10 targets a game to Rice
It's not fair to the Chiefs and the fans that Skyy is providing the production of undrafted WR and not the second round production he was drafted at.
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Too early. Had a great week but with this group we don't even know that Justin Watson doesn't get 10+ targets again as he did 2 weeks ago.
You've become such a butt****ing moron.
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You've become such a butt****ing moron.
Happened a long time ago.
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Too early. Had a great week but with this group we don't even know that Justin Watson doesn't get 10+ targets again as he did 2 weeks ago.
100 yard games with the Chiefs:

Juju-2
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TD's with the Chiefs

Juju-3
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Rice will be better than Juju and you're gonna see that starting next month. He's just getting started
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The WR cult is so ****ing commited to their narrative that they have to constantly downplay Rice.

Yet they'll suck Zay Flowers dick endlessly, when Rice has been every bit as productive on fewer snaps.

Absolutely nonsensical.
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Old 11-30-2023, 12:53 PM   #8382
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Juju-2
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Juju-3
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Rice will be better than Juju and you're gonna see that starting next month. He's just getting started
I think so too, but we have already gone over this point a bunch of times. Just 2 weeks ago Justin Watson received 11 Targets like he was prime Julio or Megatron in our biggest game of the year. So just two weeks ago our coaching staff viewed Watson as the #1 as he was getting the 1st read on critical, need to have it downs.

Rice is more athletic than JuJu was but it comes down to moving the chains and the next step for Rice is to have our coaching staff use him that way. He did get some good looks this week on 3rd down so hopefully it continues.

The issue is will Rice pass last year's JuJu this year by the playoffs. JuJu performed when needed on the biggest stage in last year's SB 2nd half. Rice has a higher bar to climb than just looking the part and having a big game now and then.
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Wish we had both.
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Old 11-30-2023, 02:13 PM   #8385
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This post is dumb.

Whether DHop was available or not, they needed to add a vet WR that could play.

Omniscience not necessary, anyone with a few brain cells firing could see it. And DHop was talked about as a guy that could come free WAY before he was signed.

They also could have just gave Cardinals a pick and secured him. Even if they wanted to wait till he was released they had options.

Simply convert 15 million of Mahomes roster bonus into a war chest and have it ready for him OR someone else at the trade deadline. Not being ready to sign a vet WR when they had nothing but MVS paid was poor planning and roster management.

Having a dependable target opposite Kelce to take pressure off was more important than signing a 3rd pass rusher or backup defensive players.
If they give up a pick, what incentive does he have to renegotiate? You're not going to get him at his present figure if he doesn't go into the market and see that he can't beat that figure.

And again, we didn't lose any superstar talent. We lost JuJu Smith Schuster, who was ungodly mediocre. This idea that we should've seen the loss of an average, at best, WR as something that would necessitate the addition of some premier option just ignores the reality on the ground.

They needed to replace average. And not by Week 1 but by the post-season. That's EXACTLY what they've done with Rashee Rice. In fact, they've upgraded on JuJu with him.

This team doesn't build for week 1. It doesn't build for week 8 or really ANYTHING in the regular season. They build a roster for the post-season. And in so doing, they determined that the only true loss from their WR room was a gimpy possession WR who they could easily replace with Rice - they were correct. In making that decision it allowed them to upgrade their OL and their DL while maintaining the same talent level at WR that they won a SB with.

The only question is whether or not that talent would develop. In Rice, it very clearly has.

Right this very second their WR room is, at WORST, even with the WR room that won a championship last season. And there's still room for improvement as the season progresses.

Veach most assuredly didn't 'badly mishandle' the roster this offseason. He had a clear plan, executed it exceptionally well and it's coming to fruition as the season progresses. It's only ever been the end-point that matters for this organization - where they are in week 17. And they're going to be exactly where they wanted to be: A team with a similar or slightly improved WR corps to the 2022 model with upgrades on the OL, DL and added experience leading to improvements in the secondary.

This is a better football team than last year's squad. To say Veach 'mishandled' it is just the height of hubris and is frankly, ignorant as ****.
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