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**Rain Man** · 03-22-2009, 12:15 AM

The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.

Original post: You can ignore this now.

Spoiler!

Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon.

The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting.

Here's how the game will work.

Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.)

Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly.

Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub".

Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285.

Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues.

Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs

If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player.

There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap.

I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting.

So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team.

Teams As Of Post #113:

Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox)
Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333)
Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman)
Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon)
Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover)
Duluth Normans (Rain Man)
El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz)
Fargo Rape (SNR)
Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good)
Fresno Refugees (Adam)
Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter)
Hartford Manticores (Crush)
Honolulu Craters (Sully)
Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu)
Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser)
Little Rock Reapers (doomy3)
Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan)
Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis)
Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut)
Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka)
Omaha Streakers (speak24)
Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry)
Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72)
San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog)
Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg)
Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23)
Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts)
Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1)
Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie)
Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk)
Worcester Sauce (unothadeal)

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259)

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.)

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.)

kccrow · 04-25-2020, 11:12 PM

Don't know if I'll be around much for a while so I'm going to post this right away...

I come into this offseason with a serious need to add upper-echelon talents to the defensive line and depth at LB, CB, and WR.

Draft capital includes an extra 2nd round pick from the Dee Ford trade but no 6th or 7th round picks due to trading for Darron Lee and Jordan Lucas, leaving me with 1-32, 2-63, 2-64, 3-96, 4-138, and 5-177.

I made the decision not to do a pre-draft trade, which may be a blessing in disguise at this point. In any event, I will make an in-draft trade down sending my 3rd round pick #96 to the Chicago Bears for their 4th round pick #125, 5th round pick #163, and 7th round pick #226. The 96th pick is valued at 116 points and has a discounted value of 75.4 points. The Bears picks are worth 47, 26.2, and 1 point respectively, adding up to 74.2 points.

I don't accept the Chiefs trade of a 2021 6th for 7th round #237.

With that, here's the Superior Yetis Draft:

1-32 - DT Ross Blacklock, TCU (6'3" 290, HOU #40)
I had my eyes fixated on taking Tee Higgins, Michael Pittman Jr., or Brandon Aiyuk early on but doing so would put me in a difficult spot to get impact defensive tackles that I desperately need. Blacklock is a penetrating defensive lineman that can consistently push the pocket and make plays and was widely regarded as the 3rd rated defensive tackle in this draft. In the actual NFL, Blacklock should be an immediate starter at 3-4 DE opposite JJ Watt which should bode well for my team going forward.

2-63 (f/SF) - LB Logan Wilson, Wyoming (6'2" 241, CIN #65)
Unlike the Chiefs, I'm not hinging my hopes and prayers at LB to a guy that isn't smart and hasn't produced on the field. Instead, I'm going with a guy that has had outstanding production and a player most analysts have called the most complete linebacker in this draft. This isn't necessarily an immediate need with Damien Wilson, Anthony Hitchens, and Cole Holcomb all starters, but improving over Hitchens and Wilson in the final year of his contract are certainly the biggest consideration here.

2-64 - DT Justin Madubuike, Texas A&M (6'3" 293, BAL #71)
After spending a 3rd round pick on Harrison Phillips at DT in 2018, he had a stellar rookie season only to tear his ACL early in 2019 and miss the year. I expected to have him back at least as a strong rotational player but the signings of Quinton Jefferson and Vernon Butler this offseason by the Bills has me concerned about Phillips so I basically have to find two starters in this draft. I'm going to bring in one of Mel Kiper's favorites here in Madubuike who may not start in 2020 and may marinate behind Derek Wolfe (1-year deal), but he should be in the mix immediately and become a starter in 2021 to, hopefully, give me outstanding bookends for my defensive front. Between Madubuike and Blacklock I should have myself a penetrating defensive front that can make plays.

4-125 (f/CHI) - WR Gabriel Davis, Central Florida (6'2" 216, BUF #128)
I have an obvious need at WR after Tyler Boyd and Sammy Watkins with a practice squad bandit in Cody Thompson, a current free agent in Rashad Higgins, and a roster bubble guy in Olabisi Johnson rounding out my corps, plus Watkins is a free agent after 2020. Davis is a guy that has an opportunity to immediately become a #3 receiver and eventually much more as he develops. This is a guy that can come in and push the field vertically as well as be a matchup problem as a big-bodied possession type but he will have to develop his route tree and route-running ability.

4-138 - CB L'Jarius Sneed, Louisiana Tech (6'0" 192, KC #138)
I had to go into this thing thinking about CB because my depth behind Breeland (on a 1-year deal) and Byron Murphy consists of Holton Hill and he may only be a 4th corner. Like the Chiefs, I was high on Sneed coming into this. I think Sneed projects as a CB on the next level and I think that's where KC will look to play him, but he also can be an interchangeable piece in the secondary and provide you with different looks. Sneed comes with alot of speed and is physical in the route, which I really think is something needed in a division now loaded with speed receivers.

5-163 (f/CHI) - ER Curtis Weaver, Boise State (6'2" 265, MIA #164)
When I originally made the trade down, my eyes were initially on another Boise State player, WR John Hightower. The problem is that Hightower is going to an extremely crowded receiver room and his career trajectory comes into question. Weaver is a guy, where you have to listen to Bucky Brooks and Daniel Jeremiah and agree that college sack production usually translates to the pro game and Weaver has it in spades. This isn't a guy that looks like he's a 34 sack guy, but he's got some good athleticism, multiple moves, and he bends at the top of his arc well. I think you put this guy into an NFL strength and conditioning program and they'll mold this kid's body and strength and he could be a sneaky good player in Miami's 3-4 as a stand-up edge rusher. I'm not hurting for pass rushers, but this is a guy I feel like is a day 2 pick that fell and is too good of a value.

5-177 - WR Donovan Peoples-Jones, Michigan (6'2" 212, CLE #187)
I needed to come into this draft probably looking for two receivers and preferably one early, but I'm coming out with both of them late. I just can't come out of this with only one receiver and have to hedge my bets. I'm hinging hopes to Peoples-Jones who I really like as an athlete and traits-based guy. He's an explosive player that can do a lot of things but he's not consistent. He should have a great opportunity in Cleveland to put himself into the #3 role behind Landry and Beckham, Jr, and eventually become more should Cleveland unlock his incredible potential.

7-226 (f/CHI) - CB Thakarius "Bopete" Keyes, Tulane (6'1" 202, KC #237)
My CB room is depleted as noted in the Sneed pick, so going after multiple guys there is important. I really liked Keyes as a sleeper prospect and was thrilled when the Chiefs moved a 2021 6th for the rights to snag him in the 7th. I don't have to make the same move here, having a perfectly slotted pick from my trade down to take him a bit earlier. Keyes is another in-your-face CB with size and athleticism that may help the secondary moving forward.

Preliminary Roster (add UDFAs later)

Spoiler!

**Rain Man** · 04-26-2020, 08:46 PM

Okay, here are our picks in general. Figure out what you've got to work with.

#1-32
#2-63 - If Dee Ford was on your roster and you accepted the trade last year, you get this pick. If both of those things aren't true, you don't get the pick.
#2-64 - If you rejected the Frank Clark trade, you get this pick. If you accepted the Frank Clark trade, you don't get it.
#3-96
#4-138
#5-177
#6-211 - You get this pick if you did not accept the Darron Lee trade, OR if Darron Lee was not on your roster when you started playing.
#7-237 - You get this pick if you accept the draft day trade to give up the Chiefs' 2021 6th round pick.
#7-246 - You get this pick if you did not accept the Jordan Lucas trade, OR if Jordan Lucas was not on your roster when you started playing.

**Rain Man** · 04-26-2020, 08:48 PM

As for me, here are my picks.

#1-32
#2-64
#3-96
#4-138
#5-177

I'm rejecting the draft day trade, and I had accepted the Lee and Lucas trades. I rejected the Frank Clark trade.

I have more needs than this, so I'm going to ponder a trade down. Stay tuned.

**Rain Man** · 04-26-2020, 11:43 PM

Without further ado, here is my 2020 draft.

#1-32. Yetur Gross-Matos, DE (Panthers)

The first round fell in a way that didn't work great for my needs. I've got volume at DE already, but don't have high-level production. So Gross-Matos is my guy.

Other considerations: Delpit at SS, Trade down with the Bills to get Epenesa (DE), Wanogho (OT), and Derrek Tuszka (LB), or Trade down with the Jets to get Ashtyn Davis (FS), Troy Dye (ILB), and Bryce Hall (CB).

#2-64 - Zach Baun, LB (Saints)

I really have trouble finding linebackers. I figured Baun would go earlier, so he seemed like a great value here.

Other considerations: I didn't seriously consider anyone other than Baun. I briefly considered Cushenberry (C), and Gallimore (DT).

#3-96 - Lucas Niang, G/T (Chiefs)

I looked at other players, but our own Niang rose to the top considering my need for a guard.

Other considerations: I strongly considering trading down with the Jets to take Troy Dye and Bryce Hall, which then would have freed up my 4th rounder to take Bredeson (G), who I liked. But I'm pretty sure Niang will be starting and I wasn't sure about the other guys. I also considered Malik Harrison, Akeem Davis-Gaither, and Tyre Phillips.

#4-117 - Amik Robertson, CB (Raiders).

I was really interested in a couple of guys here, Robertson and Ben Bredeson. I was really torn on those two. I also considered Bryce Hall (CB) and Curtis Weaver (DE).

#5-138 - Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR (Browns).

He was really the only guy I seriously considered here. I need some WR talent and he seemed to be a good value here.

My only other consideration here was Prince Tega Wanogho, but it wasn't a serious consideration.

**Rain Man** · 04-27-2020, 09:33 AM

Looks like we both thought Peoples-Jones went too low, kccrow. I made my picks without looking at yours.

kccrow · 04-27-2020, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Looks like we both thought Peoples-Jones went too low, kccrow. I made my picks without looking at yours.

Agreed. He was the guy I wanted Veach to snag in the 5th. He has a great opportunity in Cleveland though.

Like your pick of Gross-Matos. If I wasn't locked into having to fix my defensive line, he's a guy I would have strongly considered at 32.

chiefscafan · 04-27-2020, 10:29 PM

Ok according to non trades I never got Lucas or lee so I have both picks

LA Cobras:

2020 NFL Draft

1:32. Ross Blacklock DT TCU

2:63. Logan Wilson. ILB. Wyoming

3:98. Lucas. Niang OT TCU

4:138. LJarus Sneed S/cb

5:177. Mike Danna. DE. Michigan

6:211. KJ Hill. WR. Ohio State

7: 237. Bo Pete Keyes CB. Tulane

7:246. Thaddeus Moss. TE LSU

Drioss · 05-26-2020, 03:09 PM

Thank you for sharing!

**wazu** · 09-05-2020, 03:12 PM

Ugh I never did my draft. I'll just take what the Chiefs did as default if that's okay. Like many I was going through a tough time a few months ago. Meant to get it figured out before camp as per rules.

kccrow · 09-06-2020, 07:45 AM

2020 ROSTER

I feel good heading into the season with this crew.

I'm thin at RB after Jones and Carson with Washington getting cut, so we'll see what happens between now and Thursday but at the moment I need to hope Washington catches on somewhere. I'm secretly hoping Veach snags Kerrith Whyte from Pittsburgh on waivers...

I think my additions on the defensive line should pay some dividends. Reports are that Phillips is looking solid in his return from a torn ACL and Blacklock has been a menace in Texans camp. If Madubuike can get some solid time in Baltimore as well as Sieler in Miami, I'll be looking much better there.

I'm a bit disappointed that Curtis Weaver got injured/waived then picked up by Cleveland. If he pays any dividends, it wouldn't be likely until 2022 so I cut ties with a 5th rounder early. I also felt ok with making big-boy cuts on the O-line with guys like Remmers and Reiter, as well as on the edge with Okafor because of my overall depth. Let go of some draft picks too, but I'm okay with it.

OFFENSE

QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC)
QB - Chad Henne (FA/20 - KC)

RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB)
RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA)
RB - De'Andre Washington (FA/20 - KC)

FB - Anthony Sherman

TE - Travis Kelce
TE - Ricky Seals-Jones (FA/20 - KC)
TE - Nick Keizer (FA/20 - KC)

WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN)
WR - Sammy Watkins (FA/18 - KC)
WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN)
WR - Gabriel Davis (#4-125/20 - BUF)
WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - CLE)
WR - Donovan Peoples-Jones (#5-177/20 - CLE)

OL - Eric Fisher
OL - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL)
OL - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO)
OL - Kelechi Osemele (FA/20 - KC)
OL - Mitchell Schwartz
OL - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - NYJ)
OL - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC)
OL - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19)
OL - Yasir Durant (UDFA/20 - KC)
OL - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif

DEFENSE

DL - Ross Blacklock (#1-32/20 - HOU)
DL - Justin Madubuike (#2-64/20 - BAL)
DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF)
DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - HOU)
DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - MIA)
DL - Tershawn Wharton (UDFA/20 - KC)

ER - Justin Houston (IND)
ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - BAL)
ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG)
ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - KC)
ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR)
ER - Taco Charlton (FA/20 - KC)

LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC)
LB - Damien Wilson (FA/19 - KC)
LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS)
LB - Logan Wilson (#2-63/20 - CIN)

CB - Bashaud Breeland (FA/19 - KC)
CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ)
CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - MIN)
CB - L'Jarius Sneed (#4-138/20 - KC)
CB - Thakarius Keyes (#7-226/20 - KC)

DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN)
DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC)
DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF)
DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN)

K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC)
P Tommy Townsend (UDFA/20 - KC)
LS James Winchester

CUTS

P Dustin Colquitt
TE - Deon Yelder (FA/19 - KC)
TE - Alize Mack (#6-214/19 - KC/PS)
WR - Cody Thompson (CF/19 - SEA)
OL - Cole Madison (#4-122/18 - GB)
OL - Derwin Gray (#6-201/19 - PIT/PS)
ER - Alex Okafor (FA/19 - KC)
ER - Curtis Weaver (#5-163/20 - CLE)
OL - Austin Reiter (FA/18 - KC)
DB - Tedric Thompson (FA/20 - KC)
CB - Antonio Hamilton (FA/20 - KC)
OL - Mike Remmers (FA/20 - KC)

**Rain Man** · 09-06-2020, 07:01 PM

Okay, here's my 2020 roster. I've got a lot of depth issues due to covid opt outs and other oddities, but here goes.

QB
Russell Wilson (Seahawks)
Easton Stick
Jordan Ta'amu

Great starter, and completely unproven depth.

RB
Alvin Kamara (Saints)
Justin Jackson (Chargers)
Rashaad Penny (Seahawks)
Damien Williams

We're good here, though Damien is out for the year and Penny is on the PUP until Week 7. We'll be running very light until he comes back.

WR
Sammy Watkins
James Washington (Steelers)
Kelvin Harmon (Redskins)
Andy Isabella (Cardinals)
Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR (Browns)

We've got good speed at the starting positions and Harmon in the slot. Andy Isabella was a second-round pick who got buried in the depth chart and appears to be headed toward bust status. But we'll give him another season.
Peoples is a rookie, so hopefully one of them takes a step forward this year. It's not a dominating group here.

TE
Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Ricky Seals-Jones

We're very light at TE since I had no one on the roster other than these two. They're good, though.

OT
Mitchell Schwartz
Morgan Moses (Redskins)
Tyrell Crosby (Lions)

Same tackle group I've been running with for years. They're good.

OG
Keliechi Osemele
Wyatt Teller (Browns)
Andrew Wylie
Michael Jordan
Lucas Niang, G/T (Chiefs)

I've got four NFL starting guards, so my depth is good. I think this group is adequate but not strong. Niang is obviously taking a gap year.

C
Cody Whitehair (Bears )
Austin Reiter, OL

Whitehair moves back to his original position, so I've got good talent and depth with two NFL starters.

K
Harrison Butker

Best kicker in the league.

P
Tommy Townsend

It's not Colquitt so I don't know what to say.

LS
James Winchester

Best long snapper in the league.

FS
Tyrann Matthieu

Having to move Matthieu back to FS since I had no one on the roster. He can handle it.

SS
Jordan Poyer (Bills)
Tedric Thompson

Poyer is a good strong safety. Thompson is our only depth on the roster, so let's hope we stay healthy here.

CB
Marcus Peters (Ravens)
Desmond King (Chargers)
Amik Robertson, CB (Raiders)
Antoniio Hamilton
Bashaud Breeland

Yeah, he's a jerk, but he's my #1 CB. King is a good player, and until Breeland comes back we're going to be relying on a rookie and Hamilton. Not terrible, but depth is worrisome.

OLB
Jaylon Ferguson
Damien Wilson
AJ Klein (Bills)
Zach Baun, LB (Saints)
Ben Niemann

We're reworking OLB with Ferguson taking the starting spot. Baun is a rookie on the learning curve, and the other three are all serviceable. At long last I've got a reasonable OLB crew, though they're not dominant.

ILB
Anthony Hitchens

No depth here, but Niemann could move over in a pinch. Adequate starter, though not dominating.

DE
Ifeadi Odenigbo (Vikings)
Yetur Gross-Matos, DE (Panthers)
Alex Okafor
Taco Charlton
Anthony Nelson
Dorance Armstrong

Lots of depth, but they're all NFL backups. Every one of them. I'm hoping Gross-Matos moves up since he's a rookie. We're notably subpar here despite continual investment in the position.

Brandon Williams (Ravens)
Maurice Hurst
Tershawn Wharton
Mike Pennel
Andrew Billings (Bengals)
Star Lotulelei (Bills)

Billings and Lotulelei both opted out of the season, and Pennel is suspended. We've actually still got a decent core with Brandon Williams and Maurice Hurst starting until Pennel gets back. We've got the super Miner rookie on the squad as well.

Free agent losses:
Lesean McCoy
Reggie Ragland (Chiefs)
Kendall Fuller

Cuts:
Nathan Peterman (Raiders)
Matt Moore
Elijah McGuire
Deandre Washington
Donte Moncrief (Jaguars)
Isaac Nauta
Caleb Wilson
Mike Remmers
Martinas Rankin
Yasir Durant
Daniel Kilgore
Reshad Jones (Dolphins)
Darron Lee
Sutton Smith
Zach Brown (Titans)
Demone Harris
Joey Ivie, NT

My cuts weren't really hard this year. Remmers and Durant prompted some thought, but that's about it.

I tip my hat to Reshad Jones and Zach Brown and wish them the best in retirement. Those guys were mid-round picks who were on my team forever. Donte Moncrief was good value for mid-round pick as well.

**Rain Man** · 09-06-2020, 07:03 PM

Overall, I'd say my offense is really good, albeit thin on depth this year. My defensive backfield is good, but again thin on depth. My front seven on defense remains underwhelming other than adequate defensive tackles.

kccrow · 01-16-2021, 08:04 PM

Yeti's 2020 Performance

OFFENSE

QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC) 66.3% 4,740 yds 38 td 6 int - Not too worried about this position am I.
QB - Chad Henne (FA/20 - KC) 73.7% 248 yds 2 td 0 int - He's nothing but a middling backup behind an amazing QB so it's whatever.

RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB) 201 car 1,104 yds 9 td 47 rec 355 yds 2 td - Feature back for an NFC title contender, nuff said.
RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA) 141 car 681 yds 5 td 37 rec 287 yds 4 td - Lead back for the Seachickens, hell of a #2.
RB - De'Andre Washington (FA/20 - KC) 31 car 91 yds 0 td 5 rec 30 yds 0 td - Finished out the year with Miami but might need to invest in a #3

FB - Anthony Sherman 3 car 8 yds 0 td 1 rec 5 yds 1 td - He's just the same old guy, just block baby.

TE - Travis Kelce 105 rec 1,416 yds 11 td - Best TE in football
TE - Ricky Seals-Jones (FA/20 - KC) - Dud
TE - Nick Keizer (FA/20 - KC) 6 rec 63 yds 0 td - Blocking backup, I probably need to invest in a solid #2

WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN) 79 rec 841 yds 4 td - Slump of a year for my #1 guy
WR - Sammy Watkins (FA/18 - KC) 37 rec 421 yds 2 td - time to upgrade
WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN) 14 rec 189 yds 0 td - he's a 5th string guy not sure I expect more
WR - Gabriel Davis (#4-125/20 - BUF) 35 rec 599 yds 7 td - Stepped up as a rookie and became a starter, could be a steal
WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - CLE) 37 rec 599 yds 4 td - Had a solid year as a #3 type
WR - Donovan Peoples-Jones (#5-177/20 - CLE) 14 rec 304 yds 2 td - Expected him to be a returner but he really wasn't, could end up being worth something as a WR though in a year or 2.

OL - Eric Fisher - 15 game starter at LT for KC
OL - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL) - 16 game starter at LG for BAL
OL - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO) - 16 game starter at OC for NO
OL - Kelechi Osemele (FA/20 - KC) - 5 game starter before injury, probably need to replace
OL - Mitchell Schwartz - 6 game starter at RT before injury, worried I have to replace my stud RT.
OL - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - NYJ) - 16 game starter at OC and G for the Jets
OL - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC) - 14 game starter at RG for the Chiefs
OL - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19) - 1 start in wk 17, backup
OL - Yasir Durant (UDFA/20 - KC) - 1 start in wk 17 with some action in a couple other games, backup with some potential to stick
OL - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif - Year off for COVID, probably need to start looking at RG a bit even with McGovern

DEFENSE

DL - Ross Blacklock (#1-32/20 - HOU) - 1 gs 14 tkl, 1 tfl 2 qbh - I expected alot more of my top investment so hopeful 2021 is a big year
DL - Justin Madubuike (#2-64/20 - BAL) - 3 gs 19 tkl, 2 tfl, 2 qbh, 1 sk - Baltimore started working him more as the season went on, could be a big contributor in 2021.
DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF) - 3 gs 18 tkl, 4 qbh - Looking more like his old self as the season wore on in his return year from injury. Hoping he steps up in 2021.
DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - HOU) - 11 gs 27 tkl, 4 tfl, 2 qbh, 2 sks - Took on a more prominent role in 2020 in his 4th yr. We'll see what comes of his future.
DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - MIA) - 8 gs 48 tkl, 11 tfl, 11 qbh, 3.5 sks - Took on a big role since arriving in Miami last year. He should continue to grow and good production from a 7th rounder.
DL - Tershawn Wharton (UDFA/20 - KC) - 1 gs 14 tkl, 4 tfl, 4 qbh, 2 sk - More production than my 1st round pick as a rookie. I have tempered expectations but he's a role player to keep around

ER - Justin Houston (IND) - 16 gs 25 tkl, 8 tfl, 12 qbh, 8 sks - Continues to be a productive edge rusher at 32.
ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - BAL) - 13 gs 32 tkl 9 tfl 21 qbh 6 sks - Always the solid disruptor and producer on the edge.
ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG) - 3 gs 5 tkl 3 1 tfl 3 qbh - Disappointing year from Ximines, shoulder injury in October
ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - KC) - 15 gs 2 tfl 4 qbh 1 sk - Disappointing production from a 15 game starter, With Houston's age, might be time to spend a resource here again
ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR) - 12 tkl 1 tfl 3 qbh 1 sk - Some production but no starts. A 5th round swing not looking like much 2 years in.
ER - Taco Charlton (FA/20 - KC) - 7 tkl 1 tfl 4 qbh 2 sks - Looked okay in 7 games before being injured. Not sure if he has a future here though.

LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC) - 14 gs 78 tkl 2 tfl 4 qbh 1 pd - Remains a subpar ILB I can hopefully replace.
LB - Damien Wilson (FA/19 - KC) - 13 gs 73 tkl 3 tfl 1 pd - A middling SLB that is ok in his role but certainly upgradable.
LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS) - 10 gs 72 tkl 6 tfl 4 qbh 2.5 sk 1 pd - A good player at ILB that looked like a stud in bloom but an injury early set him back some. Going to be good for years though
LB - Logan Wilson (#2-63/20 - CIN) - 2 gs 33 tkl 4 tfl 2 qbh 1 sk 3 pd 2 int - Productive in a limited role as a rookie and has shown promise especially in pass defense.

CB - Bashaud Breeland (FA/19 - KC) - 11 gs 38 tkl 1 tfl 9 pd 2 int - Came back from suspension as good as ever. Might need to replace him if he's let go in FA.
CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ) - 7 gs 51 tkl 3 tfl 2 qbh 2 sk 8 pd - Solid in a more limited role in year 2. Disappointed some in a 1st round investment to date though
CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - MIN) - 2 gs 24 tkl 1 sk 3 pd - 8 game suspension then was waived in December so not sure about his future.
CB - L'Jarius Sneed (#4-138/20 - KC) - 6 gs 41 tkl 2 tfl 3 qbh 2 sk 7 pd 3 int - looks like a stud in the making as a rookie, too bad injury set him back in the middle 8 games of the yr
CB - Thakarius Keyes (#7-226/20 - KC) - 1 gs 8 tkl - A special teamer until week 17. We'll have to see if he grows. I probably need an investment at CB this year.

DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN) - 16 gs 109 tkl 2 tfl 1 qbh 15 pd 3 ints - Bates is a verified stud, that's all there is to it.
DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC) - 15 gs 62 tkl 3 tfl 2 qbh 9 pd 6 int - Huge year in the turnover department for Mathieu and he's a great leader for this D.
DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF) - 8 gs 52 tkl 1 tfl 1 pd - Still not sure what I have with Moore but he showed more growth as a FS than CB.
DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN) - 3 gs 51 tkl 1 tfl 8 pd 4 ints - Hooker continued to grow in year 2 and looks like a starter for 2021 at SS.

K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC) - 48/54 xp was disappointing but righted the ship later in the year. 25/27 fg with 4 over 50 yards. A top kicker.
P Tommy Townsend (UDFA/20 - KC) - 52 pnt for 2,339 yds good for a 45.0 average. Solid NFL punter that doesn't break the bank.
LS James Winchester - Hes a long snapper that long snaps like a long snapper should so umm yeah.

Needs: DT1, RT, RG, SLB, TE2, WR2/3, CB1, ER, QB2, RB3

**Rain Man** · 03-03-2021, 01:42 AM

Okay, let's see how my roster did in 2020. I had pro bowlers or all-pros at QB, HB, TE, OG, and FS, and my WR and DE positions were disasters. I think I would have fielded a reasonable playoff team, but I would have been victimized by a mediocre front seven and a lack of WRs.

QB
Russell Wilson (Seahawks)
Easton Stick
Jordan Ta'amu

Grade: A
Pro bowl starter who kept the backups on the bench all season.

RB
Alvin Kamara (Saints)
Justin Jackson (Chargers)
Rashaad Penny (Seahawks)
Damien Williams

Grade: A
Pro bowl starter with about 1,700 yards from scrimmage. Jackson was a good change of pace back. The other two guys were mostly hurt or out for Covid.

WR
Sammy Watkins
James Washington (Steelers)
Kelvin Harmon (Redskins)
Andy Isabella (Cardinals)
Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR (Browns)

Grade: F
My leading receiver had slightly more than 400 yards. That's unacceptable.

TE
Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Ricky Seals-Jones

Grade: A
Pro bowl TE with not much depth behind him. But it's Travis Kelce, so it's a win.

OT
Mitchell Schwartz
Morgan Moses (Redskins)
Tyrell Crosby (Lions)

C+
Schwartz got hurt, but Moses is a rock at RT and Crosby got 11 starts. This was acceptable.

OG
Wyatt Teller (Browns)
Andrew Wylie
Keliechi Osemele
Michael Jordan
Lucas Niang, G/T (Chiefs)

Grade: B
Teller emerged as a second-team all-pro, so he solidified one spot. Wylie and Jordan were starters and Osemele played well until he got hurt. I actually was okay here.

C
Cody Whitehair (Bears )
Austin Reiter, OL

Grade: B+
Whitehair moved back to center and Reiter also started a lot. Good pair of centers here.

K
Harrison Butker

Grade: A
Butker!

P
Tommy Townsend

Grade: D
I don't think he replaced Colquitt the way I hoped.

LS
James Winchester

Grade: A
Best long snapper in the league.

FS
Tyrann Matthieu

Grade: A
No depth, but a pro bowl starter. I'll take it.

SS
Jordan Poyer (Bills)
Tedric Thompson

Grade: B
Poyer is a pretty good safety. This is not an area of weakness.

CB
Marcus Peters (Ravens)
Bashaud Breeland
Desmond King (Chargers)
Amik Robertson, CB (Raiders)
Antoniio Hamilton

Grade: B
Peters missed the pro bowl, but he and Breeland are strong starters with King in the slot.

OLB
Damien Wilson
AJ Klein (Bills)
Jaylon Ferguson
Zach Baun, LB (Saints)
Ben Niemann

Grade: C-
Wilson and Klein are reliable but not impact players. Ferguson and Baun have not stepped up to claim starter jobs.

ILB
Anthony Hitchens

Grade: C
Same as the OLBs. Serviceable but not a game changer.

DE
Ifeadi Odenigbo (Vikings)
Yetur Gross-Matos, DE (Panthers)
Alex Okafor
Taco Charlton
Anthony Nelson
Dorance Armstrong

Grade: D-
Pretty much a bunch of backups. Odenigbo got a starting job but didn't dominate. I need someone to step up here.

DT
Brandon Williams (Ravens)
Tershawn Wharton
Mike Pennel
Maurice Hurst
Andrew Billings (Bengals)
Star Lotulelei (Bills)

Grade: C-
Williams played well, but he's my only true starter. Wharton and Pennel played well, so I'm serviceable. It's kind of a win since Billings and Lotulelei both sat out due to covid.

chiefscafan · 03-23-2021, 11:29 PM

Ok catching up my roster I’ll take all free agents and our draft last year

Also Frank Clark trade I’ll update rest tonight

2020 NFL Draft

1:32. Ross Blacklock DT TCU

2:63. Logan Wilson. ILB. Wyoming

3:98. Lucas. Niang OT TCU

4:138. LJarus Sneed S/cb

5:177. Mike Danna. DE. Michigan

6:211. KJ Hill. WR. Ohio State

7: 237. Bo Pete Keyes CB. Tulane

7:246. Thaddeus Moss. TE LSU

LA Cobras Roster ready for 2017 Draft

2015 Draft:

1-18: OLB Bud Dupree Kentucky

2-49: OG. Ali Marpet Hobart

Don't do trade up in third

3-80: WR. Ty Montgomery Stanford

3-98: QB Bryce Petty Baylor

4-117: WR Dandre Smelter Georgia Tech

Accept Ben Grubs Trade

5-172: DE/DT Michael Bennett Ohio State

5-173: DE Anthony Chickillo Miami

6-200: DT Rakeem Nunez-Roches Southern Miss

6-217: WR Austin Hill Arizona

7-233: OT La'el Collins LSU

Ok I had kelcie McCray but I accepted the trade to seattle. I'm also gonna accept the bucs trade down so here are my picks

1-28 (28th): Myles Jack ILB/OLB UCLA

3-11 (74th): Kivaree Russel CB Notre Dame

4-8 (106th): Eric Muarry CB/S Minnesota

4-28 (126th): Demarcus Robinson WR Florida

5-25 (162nd): Kevin Hogan QB Stanford

5-28 (165th): Kyle Murphy OT Stanford

6-28 (203rd): Mike Thomas WR Southern Miss

7-28 (249th: Vernon Adams QB Oregon

Ok. LA Cobras draft 2017

We accept A and B trade reject C and TE wasn't on our team

1st: QB: Pat Mahomes Texas Tech

2nd: DE: Tanoh Kpassagnon Villanova

3rd: RB: Kareem Hunt Toledo

5th: DT: Caleb Brantley Florida

5th: WR: Robert Davis Georgia State

6th: WR: Gabe Marks Washington State

6th: OT:Chad Wheeler USC

2018 Draft

2:52: Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn

3:86: Ronnie Harrison, SS, Alabama

4:122: Maurice Hurst , NT, Michigan

5:159: Kyle Fitts, DE, Utah

6:196: Tremon Smith, CB, Central Arkansas

6:209: Bradley Bozeman, OC, Alabama

7:233: Jordan Mailata, OT, Australia ��

7:240: Will Clapp, OC, LSU

7:243: Hercules Mata’afa, DT/DE\OLB, Washington State

2019 draft

2019 2 Mecole Hardman WR

2019 2 Juan Thornhill. S CB

2019 3 Khalen Saunders DT

2019 6 Rashad Fenton. CB

2019 6 Darwin Thompson. RB

2019 7 Nick Allegretti. OG

QB

15 Pat Mahomes
8 Matt Moore
9 Kyle Shirmur

HB

28 Mark Ingram
27 Kareem Hunt
31 Darrel Williams

FB
42 Sherman, Anthony

WR

14 Sammy Watkins
17 Mecloe Hardman
11 Demarcus Robinson
13 Byron Pringle
84 KJ. Hill

87 Travis Kelce
81 Blake Bell

T

71 Mitchell Schwartz
78 La’el Collins
74 Martinas Rankin
68 Jordan Maliata

G

66 Jackson, Gabe
75 Bradley Bozeman
74 Ali Marpert
61 Steven Wisnewski

C

62 Austin Reiter
77 Nick AllGretti
67 Daniel Kilgore

K
7 Harrison Butker

P
2 Dustin Colquit

LS

41 Winchester, james

FS

32 Tyrann Mathieu
22 Juan Thornhill
49 Daniel Sorrenson
23 Armani Watts

SS

36 Ronnie Harrison
32 Tyrann Mathieu

CB

33 Carlton Davis
35 Chavarius Ward
27 Rashad Fenton
38 Ladarius Snead
48 Bo Pete Keyes
30 Dandre Baker

OLB

44 Myles Jack
48 Bud Dupree
54 Damien Wilson

MLB

53 Anthony Hitchens
56 Logan Wilson

DE

57 Frank Clark
94 Taco Charlton
91 Tim Ward
52 Demone Harris

DT

90 Ross Blacklock
98 Tervarious Wharton
73 Maurice Hurst
99 Khalen Saunders
64 Mike Pennel

IR

LB / DE Hercules Mata’afa
OT Jordan Mailata
DE. Breeland Speaks
DE. Tim Ward
WR. Joe Fortson
TE. John Lovett
WR. Marcus Kemp
DT. Caleb Brantley

03-22-2009, 12:15 AM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years. 1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster. 2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add. 3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing. 4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster. 5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have. 6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post. 6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. 7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players. Original post: You can ignore this now. Spoiler! Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon. The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting. Here's how the game will work. Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.) Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly. Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub". Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285. Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues. Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player. There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap. I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting. So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team. Teams As Of Post #113: Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox) Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333) Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman) Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon) Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover) Duluth Normans (Rain Man) El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz) Fargo Rape (SNR) Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good) Fresno Refugees (Adam) Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter) Hartford Manticores (Crush) Honolulu Craters (Sully) Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu) Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser) Little Rock Reapers (doomy3) Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan) Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis) Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut) Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka) Omaha Streakers (speak24) Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry) Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72) San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog) Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg) Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23) Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts) Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1) Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie) Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk) Worcester Sauce (unothadeal) Added Rules and Reminders: 1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted. 2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in. 3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent. For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259) For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.) You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.) Last edited by Rain Man; 04-25-2024 at 11:30 AM..*
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04-25-2020, 11:12 PM	#811
kccrow MVP kccrow's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan	Don't know if I'll be around much for a while so I'm going to post this right away... I come into this offseason with a serious need to add upper-echelon talents to the defensive line and depth at LB, CB, and WR. Draft capital includes an extra 2nd round pick from the Dee Ford trade but no 6th or 7th round picks due to trading for Darron Lee and Jordan Lucas, leaving me with 1-32, 2-63, 2-64, 3-96, 4-138, and 5-177. I made the decision not to do a pre-draft trade, which may be a blessing in disguise at this point. In any event, I will make an in-draft trade down sending my 3rd round pick #96 to the Chicago Bears for their 4th round pick #125, 5th round pick #163, and 7th round pick #226. The 96th pick is valued at 116 points and has a discounted value of 75.4 points. The Bears picks are worth 47, 26.2, and 1 point respectively, adding up to 74.2 points. I don't accept the Chiefs trade of a 2021 6th for 7th round #237. With that, here's the Superior Yetis Draft: 1-32 - DT Ross Blacklock, TCU (6'3" 290, HOU #40) I had my eyes fixated on taking Tee Higgins, Michael Pittman Jr., or Brandon Aiyuk early on but doing so would put me in a difficult spot to get impact defensive tackles that I desperately need. Blacklock is a penetrating defensive lineman that can consistently push the pocket and make plays and was widely regarded as the 3rd rated defensive tackle in this draft. In the actual NFL, Blacklock should be an immediate starter at 3-4 DE opposite JJ Watt which should bode well for my team going forward. 2-63 (f/SF) - LB Logan Wilson, Wyoming (6'2" 241, CIN #65) Unlike the Chiefs, I'm not hinging my hopes and prayers at LB to a guy that isn't smart and hasn't produced on the field. Instead, I'm going with a guy that has had outstanding production and a player most analysts have called the most complete linebacker in this draft. This isn't necessarily an immediate need with Damien Wilson, Anthony Hitchens, and Cole Holcomb all starters, but improving over Hitchens and Wilson in the final year of his contract are certainly the biggest consideration here. 2-64 - DT Justin Madubuike, Texas A&M (6'3" 293, BAL #71) After spending a 3rd round pick on Harrison Phillips at DT in 2018, he had a stellar rookie season only to tear his ACL early in 2019 and miss the year. I expected to have him back at least as a strong rotational player but the signings of Quinton Jefferson and Vernon Butler this offseason by the Bills has me concerned about Phillips so I basically have to find two starters in this draft. I'm going to bring in one of Mel Kiper's favorites here in Madubuike who may not start in 2020 and may marinate behind Derek Wolfe (1-year deal), but he should be in the mix immediately and become a starter in 2021 to, hopefully, give me outstanding bookends for my defensive front. Between Madubuike and Blacklock I should have myself a penetrating defensive front that can make plays. 4-125 (f/CHI) - WR Gabriel Davis, Central Florida (6'2" 216, BUF #128) I have an obvious need at WR after Tyler Boyd and Sammy Watkins with a practice squad bandit in Cody Thompson, a current free agent in Rashad Higgins, and a roster bubble guy in Olabisi Johnson rounding out my corps, plus Watkins is a free agent after 2020. Davis is a guy that has an opportunity to immediately become a #3 receiver and eventually much more as he develops. This is a guy that can come in and push the field vertically as well as be a matchup problem as a big-bodied possession type but he will have to develop his route tree and route-running ability. 4-138 - CB L'Jarius Sneed, Louisiana Tech (6'0" 192, KC #138) I had to go into this thing thinking about CB because my depth behind Breeland (on a 1-year deal) and Byron Murphy consists of Holton Hill and he may only be a 4th corner. Like the Chiefs, I was high on Sneed coming into this. I think Sneed projects as a CB on the next level and I think that's where KC will look to play him, but he also can be an interchangeable piece in the secondary and provide you with different looks. Sneed comes with alot of speed and is physical in the route, which I really think is something needed in a division now loaded with speed receivers. 5-163 (f/CHI) - ER Curtis Weaver, Boise State (6'2" 265, MIA #164) When I originally made the trade down, my eyes were initially on another Boise State player, WR John Hightower. The problem is that Hightower is going to an extremely crowded receiver room and his career trajectory comes into question. Weaver is a guy, where you have to listen to Bucky Brooks and Daniel Jeremiah and agree that college sack production usually translates to the pro game and Weaver has it in spades. This isn't a guy that looks like he's a 34 sack guy, but he's got some good athleticism, multiple moves, and he bends at the top of his arc well. I think you put this guy into an NFL strength and conditioning program and they'll mold this kid's body and strength and he could be a sneaky good player in Miami's 3-4 as a stand-up edge rusher. I'm not hurting for pass rushers, but this is a guy I feel like is a day 2 pick that fell and is too good of a value. 5-177 - WR Donovan Peoples-Jones, Michigan (6'2" 212, CLE #187) I needed to come into this draft probably looking for two receivers and preferably one early, but I'm coming out with both of them late. I just can't come out of this with only one receiver and have to hedge my bets. I'm hinging hopes to Peoples-Jones who I really like as an athlete and traits-based guy. He's an explosive player that can do a lot of things but he's not consistent. He should have a great opportunity in Cleveland to put himself into the #3 role behind Landry and Beckham, Jr, and eventually become more should Cleveland unlock his incredible potential. 7-226 (f/CHI) - CB Thakarius "Bopete" Keyes, Tulane (6'1" 202, KC #237) My CB room is depleted as noted in the Sneed pick, so going after multiple guys there is important. I really liked Keyes as a sleeper prospect and was thrilled when the Chiefs moved a 2021 6th for the rights to snag him in the 7th. I don't have to make the same move here, having a perfectly slotted pick from my trade down to take him a bit earlier. Keyes is another in-your-face CB with size and athleticism that may help the secondary moving forward. Preliminary Roster (add UDFAs later) Spoiler! QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC) QB - Chad Henne (FA/20 - KC) QB - Jordan Ta'amu (FA/20 - KC) RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB) RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA) RB - De'Andre Washington (FA/20 - KC) RB - Mike Weber (FA/20 - KC) FB - Anthony Sherman TE - Travis Kelce TE - Ricky Seals-Jones (FA/20 - KC) TE - Deon Yelder (FA/19 - KC) TE - Alize Mack (#6-214/19 - KC/PS) WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN) WR - Sammy Watkins (FA/18 - KC) WR - Gabriel Davis (#4-125/20 - BUF) WR - Donovan Peoples-Jones (#5-177/20 - CLE) WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - FA) WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN) WR - Cody Thompson (CF/19 - SEA) OT - Eric Fisher OT - Mitchell Schwartz OT - Derwin Gray (#6-201/19 - PIT/PS) OT - Mike Remmers (FA/20 - KC) OG - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif OG - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL) OG - Cole Madison (#4-122/18 - GB) OG - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC) OG - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19) OC - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - DEN) OC - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO) OC - Austin Reiter (FA/18 - KC) DL - Ross Blacklock (#1-32/20 - HOU) DL - Justin Madubuike (#2-64/20 - BAL) DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF) DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - HOU) DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - BAL PS) ER - Justin Houston (IND) ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - BAL) ER - Alex Okafor (FA/19 - KC) ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG) ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - KC) ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR) ER - Curtis Weaver (#5-163/20 - MIA) LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC) LB - Damien Wilson (FA/19 - KC) LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS) LB - Logan Wilson (#2-63/20 - CIN) CB - Bashaud Breeland (FA/19 - KC) CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ) CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - MIN) CB - L'Jarius Sneed (#4-138/20 - KC) CB - Thakarius Keyes (#7-226/20 - KC) DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN) DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC) DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF) DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN) K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC) P Dustin Colquitt LS James Winchester Last edited by kccrow; 04-27-2020 at 07:48 AM..
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04-26-2020, 08:46 PM	#812
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	Okay, here are our picks in general. Figure out what you've got to work with. #1-32 #2-63 - If Dee Ford was on your roster and you accepted the trade last year, you get this pick. If both of those things aren't true, you don't get the pick. #2-64 - If you rejected the Frank Clark trade, you get this pick. If you accepted the Frank Clark trade, you don't get it. #3-96 #4-138 #5-177 #6-211 - You get this pick if you did not accept the Darron Lee trade, OR if Darron Lee was not on your roster when you started playing. #7-237 - You get this pick if you accept the draft day trade to give up the Chiefs' 2021 6th round pick. #7-246 - You get this pick if you did not accept the Jordan Lucas trade, OR if Jordan Lucas was not on your roster when you started playing. Last edited by Rain Man; 04-26-2020 at 11:10 PM..
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04-26-2020, 08:48 PM	#813
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	As for me, here are my picks. #1-32 #2-64 #3-96 #4-138 #5-177 I'm rejecting the draft day trade, and I had accepted the Lee and Lucas trades. I rejected the Frank Clark trade. I have more needs than this, so I'm going to ponder a trade down. Stay tuned.
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04-26-2020, 11:43 PM	#814
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	Without further ado, here is my 2020 draft. #1-32. Yetur Gross-Matos, DE (Panthers) The first round fell in a way that didn't work great for my needs. I've got volume at DE already, but don't have high-level production. So Gross-Matos is my guy. Other considerations: Delpit at SS, Trade down with the Bills to get Epenesa (DE), Wanogho (OT), and Derrek Tuszka (LB), or Trade down with the Jets to get Ashtyn Davis (FS), Troy Dye (ILB), and Bryce Hall (CB). #2-64 - Zach Baun, LB (Saints) I really have trouble finding linebackers. I figured Baun would go earlier, so he seemed like a great value here. Other considerations: I didn't seriously consider anyone other than Baun. I briefly considered Cushenberry (C), and Gallimore (DT). #3-96 - Lucas Niang, G/T (Chiefs) I looked at other players, but our own Niang rose to the top considering my need for a guard. Other considerations: I strongly considering trading down with the Jets to take Troy Dye and Bryce Hall, which then would have freed up my 4th rounder to take Bredeson (G), who I liked. But I'm pretty sure Niang will be starting and I wasn't sure about the other guys. I also considered Malik Harrison, Akeem Davis-Gaither, and Tyre Phillips. #4-117 - Amik Robertson, CB (Raiders). I was really interested in a couple of guys here, Robertson and Ben Bredeson. I was really torn on those two. I also considered Bryce Hall (CB) and Curtis Weaver (DE). #5-138 - Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR (Browns). He was really the only guy I seriously considered here. I need some WR talent and he seemed to be a good value here. My only other consideration here was Prince Tega Wanogho, but it wasn't a serious consideration. Last edited by Rain Man; 04-26-2020 at 11:55 PM..
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04-27-2020, 09:33 AM	#815
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	Looks like we both thought Peoples-Jones went too low, kccrow. I made my picks without looking at yours.
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04-27-2020, 10:29 PM	#817
chiefscafan Veteran chiefscafan's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA	Ok according to non trades I never got Lucas or lee so I have both picks LA Cobras: 2020 NFL Draft 1:32. Ross Blacklock DT TCU 2:63. Logan Wilson. ILB. Wyoming 3:98. Lucas. Niang OT TCU 4:138. LJarus Sneed S/cb 5:177. Mike Danna. DE. Michigan 6:211. KJ Hill. WR. Ohio State 7: 237. Bo Pete Keyes CB. Tulane 7:246. Thaddeus Moss. TE LSU Last edited by chiefscafan; 04-27-2020 at 11:27 PM..
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05-26-2020, 03:09 PM	#818
Drioss Banned Join Date: May 2020	Thank you for sharing!
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09-05-2020, 03:12 PM	#819
wazu ... wazu's Avatar Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO	Ugh I never did my draft. I'll just take what the Chiefs did as default if that's okay. Like many I was going through a tough time a few months ago. Meant to get it figured out before camp as per rules.
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09-06-2020, 07:45 AM	#820
kccrow MVP kccrow's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan	2020 ROSTER I feel good heading into the season with this crew. I'm thin at RB after Jones and Carson with Washington getting cut, so we'll see what happens between now and Thursday but at the moment I need to hope Washington catches on somewhere. I'm secretly hoping Veach snags Kerrith Whyte from Pittsburgh on waivers... I think my additions on the defensive line should pay some dividends. Reports are that Phillips is looking solid in his return from a torn ACL and Blacklock has been a menace in Texans camp. If Madubuike can get some solid time in Baltimore as well as Sieler in Miami, I'll be looking much better there. I'm a bit disappointed that Curtis Weaver got injured/waived then picked up by Cleveland. If he pays any dividends, it wouldn't be likely until 2022 so I cut ties with a 5th rounder early. I also felt ok with making big-boy cuts on the O-line with guys like Remmers and Reiter, as well as on the edge with Okafor because of my overall depth. Let go of some draft picks too, but I'm okay with it. OFFENSE QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC) QB - Chad Henne (FA/20 - KC) RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB) RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA) RB - De'Andre Washington (FA/20 - KC) FB - Anthony Sherman TE - Travis Kelce TE - Ricky Seals-Jones (FA/20 - KC) TE - Nick Keizer (FA/20 - KC) WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN) WR - Sammy Watkins (FA/18 - KC) WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN) WR - Gabriel Davis (#4-125/20 - BUF) WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - CLE) WR - Donovan Peoples-Jones (#5-177/20 - CLE) OL - Eric Fisher OL - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL) OL - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO) OL - Kelechi Osemele (FA/20 - KC) OL - Mitchell Schwartz OL - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - NYJ) OL - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC) OL - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19) OL - Yasir Durant (UDFA/20 - KC) OL - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif DEFENSE DL - Ross Blacklock (#1-32/20 - HOU) DL - Justin Madubuike (#2-64/20 - BAL) DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF) DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - HOU) DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - MIA) DL - Tershawn Wharton (UDFA/20 - KC) ER - Justin Houston (IND) ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - BAL) ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG) ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - KC) ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR) ER - Taco Charlton (FA/20 - KC) LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC) LB - Damien Wilson (FA/19 - KC) LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS) LB - Logan Wilson (#2-63/20 - CIN) CB - Bashaud Breeland (FA/19 - KC) CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ) CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - MIN) CB - L'Jarius Sneed (#4-138/20 - KC) CB - Thakarius Keyes (#7-226/20 - KC) DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN) DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC) DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF) DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN) K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC) P Tommy Townsend (UDFA/20 - KC) LS James Winchester CUTS P Dustin Colquitt TE - Deon Yelder (FA/19 - KC) TE - Alize Mack (#6-214/19 - KC/PS) WR - Cody Thompson (CF/19 - SEA) OL - Cole Madison (#4-122/18 - GB) OL - Derwin Gray (#6-201/19 - PIT/PS) ER - Alex Okafor (FA/19 - KC) ER - Curtis Weaver (#5-163/20 - CLE) OL - Austin Reiter (FA/18 - KC) DB - Tedric Thompson (FA/20 - KC) CB - Antonio Hamilton (FA/20 - KC) OL - Mike Remmers (FA/20 - KC)
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09-06-2020, 07:01 PM	#821
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	Okay, here's my 2020 roster. I've got a lot of depth issues due to covid opt outs and other oddities, but here goes. QB Russell Wilson (Seahawks) Easton Stick Jordan Ta'amu Great starter, and completely unproven depth. RB Alvin Kamara (Saints) Justin Jackson (Chargers) Rashaad Penny (Seahawks) Damien Williams We're good here, though Damien is out for the year and Penny is on the PUP until Week 7. We'll be running very light until he comes back. WR Sammy Watkins James Washington (Steelers) Kelvin Harmon (Redskins) Andy Isabella (Cardinals) Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR (Browns) We've got good speed at the starting positions and Harmon in the slot. Andy Isabella was a second-round pick who got buried in the depth chart and appears to be headed toward bust status. But we'll give him another season. Peoples is a rookie, so hopefully one of them takes a step forward this year. It's not a dominating group here. TE Travis Kelce (Chiefs) Ricky Seals-Jones We're very light at TE since I had no one on the roster other than these two. They're good, though. OT Mitchell Schwartz Morgan Moses (Redskins) Tyrell Crosby (Lions) Same tackle group I've been running with for years. They're good. OG Keliechi Osemele Wyatt Teller (Browns) Andrew Wylie Michael Jordan Lucas Niang, G/T (Chiefs) I've got four NFL starting guards, so my depth is good. I think this group is adequate but not strong. Niang is obviously taking a gap year. C Cody Whitehair (Bears ) Austin Reiter, OL Whitehair moves back to his original position, so I've got good talent and depth with two NFL starters. K Harrison Butker Best kicker in the league. P Tommy Townsend It's not Colquitt so I don't know what to say. LS James Winchester Best long snapper in the league. FS Tyrann Matthieu Having to move Matthieu back to FS since I had no one on the roster. He can handle it. SS Jordan Poyer (Bills) Tedric Thompson Poyer is a good strong safety. Thompson is our only depth on the roster, so let's hope we stay healthy here. CB Marcus Peters (Ravens) Desmond King (Chargers) Amik Robertson, CB (Raiders) Antoniio Hamilton Bashaud Breeland Yeah, he's a jerk, but he's my #1 CB. King is a good player, and until Breeland comes back we're going to be relying on a rookie and Hamilton. Not terrible, but depth is worrisome. OLB Jaylon Ferguson Damien Wilson AJ Klein (Bills) Zach Baun, LB (Saints) Ben Niemann We're reworking OLB with Ferguson taking the starting spot. Baun is a rookie on the learning curve, and the other three are all serviceable. At long last I've got a reasonable OLB crew, though they're not dominant. ILB Anthony Hitchens No depth here, but Niemann could move over in a pinch. Adequate starter, though not dominating. DE Ifeadi Odenigbo (Vikings) Yetur Gross-Matos, DE (Panthers) Alex Okafor Taco Charlton Anthony Nelson Dorance Armstrong Lots of depth, but they're all NFL backups. Every one of them. I'm hoping Gross-Matos moves up since he's a rookie. We're notably subpar here despite continual investment in the position. Brandon Williams (Ravens) Maurice Hurst Tershawn Wharton Mike Pennel Andrew Billings (Bengals) Star Lotulelei (Bills) Billings and Lotulelei both opted out of the season, and Pennel is suspended. We've actually still got a decent core with Brandon Williams and Maurice Hurst starting until Pennel gets back. We've got the super Miner rookie on the squad as well. Free agent losses: Lesean McCoy Reggie Ragland (Chiefs) Kendall Fuller Cuts: Nathan Peterman (Raiders) Matt Moore Elijah McGuire Deandre Washington Donte Moncrief (Jaguars) Isaac Nauta Caleb Wilson Mike Remmers Martinas Rankin Yasir Durant Daniel Kilgore Reshad Jones (Dolphins) Darron Lee Sutton Smith Zach Brown (Titans) Demone Harris Joey Ivie, NT My cuts weren't really hard this year. Remmers and Durant prompted some thought, but that's about it. I tip my hat to Reshad Jones and Zach Brown and wish them the best in retirement. Those guys were mid-round picks who were on my team forever. Donte Moncrief was good value for mid-round pick as well.
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09-06-2020, 07:03 PM	#822
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	Overall, I'd say my offense is really good, albeit thin on depth this year. My defensive backfield is good, but again thin on depth. My front seven on defense remains underwhelming other than adequate defensive tackles.
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01-16-2021, 08:04 PM	#823
kccrow MVP kccrow's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan	Yeti's 2020 Performance OFFENSE QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC) 66.3% 4,740 yds 38 td 6 int - Not too worried about this position am I. QB - Chad Henne (FA/20 - KC) 73.7% 248 yds 2 td 0 int - He's nothing but a middling backup behind an amazing QB so it's whatever. RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB) 201 car 1,104 yds 9 td 47 rec 355 yds 2 td - Feature back for an NFC title contender, nuff said. RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA) 141 car 681 yds 5 td 37 rec 287 yds 4 td - Lead back for the Seachickens, hell of a #2. RB - De'Andre Washington (FA/20 - KC) 31 car 91 yds 0 td 5 rec 30 yds 0 td - Finished out the year with Miami but might need to invest in a #3 FB - Anthony Sherman 3 car 8 yds 0 td 1 rec 5 yds 1 td - He's just the same old guy, just block baby. TE - Travis Kelce 105 rec 1,416 yds 11 td - Best TE in football TE - Ricky Seals-Jones (FA/20 - KC) - Dud TE - Nick Keizer (FA/20 - KC) 6 rec 63 yds 0 td - Blocking backup, I probably need to invest in a solid #2 WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN) 79 rec 841 yds 4 td - Slump of a year for my #1 guy WR - Sammy Watkins (FA/18 - KC) 37 rec 421 yds 2 td - time to upgrade WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN) 14 rec 189 yds 0 td - he's a 5th string guy not sure I expect more WR - Gabriel Davis (#4-125/20 - BUF) 35 rec 599 yds 7 td - Stepped up as a rookie and became a starter, could be a steal WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - CLE) 37 rec 599 yds 4 td - Had a solid year as a #3 type WR - Donovan Peoples-Jones (#5-177/20 - CLE) 14 rec 304 yds 2 td - Expected him to be a returner but he really wasn't, could end up being worth something as a WR though in a year or 2. OL - Eric Fisher - 15 game starter at LT for KC OL - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL) - 16 game starter at LG for BAL OL - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO) - 16 game starter at OC for NO OL - Kelechi Osemele (FA/20 - KC) - 5 game starter before injury, probably need to replace OL - Mitchell Schwartz - 6 game starter at RT before injury, worried I have to replace my stud RT. OL - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - NYJ) - 16 game starter at OC and G for the Jets OL - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC) - 14 game starter at RG for the Chiefs OL - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19) - 1 start in wk 17, backup OL - Yasir Durant (UDFA/20 - KC) - 1 start in wk 17 with some action in a couple other games, backup with some potential to stick OL - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif - Year off for COVID, probably need to start looking at RG a bit even with McGovern DEFENSE DL - Ross Blacklock (#1-32/20 - HOU) - 1 gs 14 tkl, 1 tfl 2 qbh - I expected alot more of my top investment so hopeful 2021 is a big year DL - Justin Madubuike (#2-64/20 - BAL) - 3 gs 19 tkl, 2 tfl, 2 qbh, 1 sk - Baltimore started working him more as the season went on, could be a big contributor in 2021. DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF) - 3 gs 18 tkl, 4 qbh - Looking more like his old self as the season wore on in his return year from injury. Hoping he steps up in 2021. DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - HOU) - 11 gs 27 tkl, 4 tfl, 2 qbh, 2 sks - Took on a more prominent role in 2020 in his 4th yr. We'll see what comes of his future. DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - MIA) - 8 gs 48 tkl, 11 tfl, 11 qbh, 3.5 sks - Took on a big role since arriving in Miami last year. He should continue to grow and good production from a 7th rounder. DL - Tershawn Wharton (UDFA/20 - KC) - 1 gs 14 tkl, 4 tfl, 4 qbh, 2 sk - More production than my 1st round pick as a rookie. I have tempered expectations but he's a role player to keep around ER - Justin Houston (IND) - 16 gs 25 tkl, 8 tfl, 12 qbh, 8 sks - Continues to be a productive edge rusher at 32. ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - BAL) - 13 gs 32 tkl 9 tfl 21 qbh 6 sks - Always the solid disruptor and producer on the edge. ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG) - 3 gs 5 tkl 3 1 tfl 3 qbh - Disappointing year from Ximines, shoulder injury in October ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - KC) - 15 gs 2 tfl 4 qbh 1 sk - Disappointing production from a 15 game starter, With Houston's age, might be time to spend a resource here again ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR) - 12 tkl 1 tfl 3 qbh 1 sk - Some production but no starts. A 5th round swing not looking like much 2 years in. ER - Taco Charlton (FA/20 - KC) - 7 tkl 1 tfl 4 qbh 2 sks - Looked okay in 7 games before being injured. Not sure if he has a future here though. LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC) - 14 gs 78 tkl 2 tfl 4 qbh 1 pd - Remains a subpar ILB I can hopefully replace. LB - Damien Wilson (FA/19 - KC) - 13 gs 73 tkl 3 tfl 1 pd - A middling SLB that is ok in his role but certainly upgradable. LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS) - 10 gs 72 tkl 6 tfl 4 qbh 2.5 sk 1 pd - A good player at ILB that looked like a stud in bloom but an injury early set him back some. Going to be good for years though LB - Logan Wilson (#2-63/20 - CIN) - 2 gs 33 tkl 4 tfl 2 qbh 1 sk 3 pd 2 int - Productive in a limited role as a rookie and has shown promise especially in pass defense. CB - Bashaud Breeland (FA/19 - KC) - 11 gs 38 tkl 1 tfl 9 pd 2 int - Came back from suspension as good as ever. Might need to replace him if he's let go in FA. CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ) - 7 gs 51 tkl 3 tfl 2 qbh 2 sk 8 pd - Solid in a more limited role in year 2. Disappointed some in a 1st round investment to date though CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - MIN) - 2 gs 24 tkl 1 sk 3 pd - 8 game suspension then was waived in December so not sure about his future. CB - L'Jarius Sneed (#4-138/20 - KC) - 6 gs 41 tkl 2 tfl 3 qbh 2 sk 7 pd 3 int - looks like a stud in the making as a rookie, too bad injury set him back in the middle 8 games of the yr CB - Thakarius Keyes (#7-226/20 - KC) - 1 gs 8 tkl - A special teamer until week 17. We'll have to see if he grows. I probably need an investment at CB this year. DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN) - 16 gs 109 tkl 2 tfl 1 qbh 15 pd 3 ints - Bates is a verified stud, that's all there is to it. DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC) - 15 gs 62 tkl 3 tfl 2 qbh 9 pd 6 int - Huge year in the turnover department for Mathieu and he's a great leader for this D. DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF) - 8 gs 52 tkl 1 tfl 1 pd - Still not sure what I have with Moore but he showed more growth as a FS than CB. DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN) - 3 gs 51 tkl 1 tfl 8 pd 4 ints - Hooker continued to grow in year 2 and looks like a starter for 2021 at SS. K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC) - 48/54 xp was disappointing but righted the ship later in the year. 25/27 fg with 4 over 50 yards. A top kicker. P Tommy Townsend (UDFA/20 - KC) - 52 pnt for 2,339 yds good for a 45.0 average. Solid NFL punter that doesn't break the bank. LS James Winchester - Hes a long snapper that long snaps like a long snapper should so umm yeah. Needs: DT1, RT, RG, SLB, TE2, WR2/3, CB1, ER, QB2, RB3
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03-03-2021, 01:42 AM	#824
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	Okay, let's see how my roster did in 2020. I had pro bowlers or all-pros at QB, HB, TE, OG, and FS, and my WR and DE positions were disasters. I think I would have fielded a reasonable playoff team, but I would have been victimized by a mediocre front seven and a lack of WRs. QB Russell Wilson (Seahawks) Easton Stick Jordan Ta'amu Grade: A Pro bowl starter who kept the backups on the bench all season. RB Alvin Kamara (Saints) Justin Jackson (Chargers) Rashaad Penny (Seahawks) Damien Williams Grade: A Pro bowl starter with about 1,700 yards from scrimmage. Jackson was a good change of pace back. The other two guys were mostly hurt or out for Covid. WR Sammy Watkins James Washington (Steelers) Kelvin Harmon (Redskins) Andy Isabella (Cardinals) Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR (Browns) Grade: F My leading receiver had slightly more than 400 yards. That's unacceptable. TE Travis Kelce (Chiefs) Ricky Seals-Jones Grade: A Pro bowl TE with not much depth behind him. But it's Travis Kelce, so it's a win. OT Mitchell Schwartz Morgan Moses (Redskins) Tyrell Crosby (Lions) C+ Schwartz got hurt, but Moses is a rock at RT and Crosby got 11 starts. This was acceptable. OG Wyatt Teller (Browns) Andrew Wylie Keliechi Osemele Michael Jordan Lucas Niang, G/T (Chiefs) Grade: B Teller emerged as a second-team all-pro, so he solidified one spot. Wylie and Jordan were starters and Osemele played well until he got hurt. I actually was okay here. C Cody Whitehair (Bears ) Austin Reiter, OL Grade: B+ Whitehair moved back to center and Reiter also started a lot. Good pair of centers here. K Harrison Butker Grade: A Butker! P Tommy Townsend Grade: D I don't think he replaced Colquitt the way I hoped. LS James Winchester Grade: A Best long snapper in the league. FS Tyrann Matthieu Grade: A No depth, but a pro bowl starter. I'll take it. SS Jordan Poyer (Bills) Tedric Thompson Grade: B Poyer is a pretty good safety. This is not an area of weakness. CB Marcus Peters (Ravens) Bashaud Breeland Desmond King (Chargers) Amik Robertson, CB (Raiders) Antoniio Hamilton Grade: B Peters missed the pro bowl, but he and Breeland are strong starters with King in the slot. OLB Damien Wilson AJ Klein (Bills) Jaylon Ferguson Zach Baun, LB (Saints) Ben Niemann Grade: C- Wilson and Klein are reliable but not impact players. Ferguson and Baun have not stepped up to claim starter jobs. ILB Anthony Hitchens Grade: C Same as the OLBs. Serviceable but not a game changer. DE Ifeadi Odenigbo (Vikings) Yetur Gross-Matos, DE (Panthers) Alex Okafor Taco Charlton Anthony Nelson Dorance Armstrong Grade: D- Pretty much a bunch of backups. Odenigbo got a starting job but didn't dominate. I need someone to step up here. DT Brandon Williams (Ravens) Tershawn Wharton Mike Pennel Maurice Hurst Andrew Billings (Bengals) Star Lotulelei (Bills) Grade: C- Williams played well, but he's my only true starter. Wharton and Pennel played well, so I'm serviceable. It's kind of a win since Billings and Lotulelei both sat out due to covid.
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03-23-2021, 11:29 PM	#825
chiefscafan Veteran chiefscafan's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA	Ok catching up my roster I’ll take all free agents and our draft last year Also Frank Clark trade I’ll update rest tonight 2020 NFL Draft 1:32. Ross Blacklock DT TCU 2:63. Logan Wilson. ILB. Wyoming 3:98. Lucas. Niang OT TCU 4:138. LJarus Sneed S/cb 5:177. Mike Danna. DE. Michigan 6:211. KJ Hill. WR. Ohio State 7: 237. Bo Pete Keyes CB. Tulane 7:246. Thaddeus Moss. TE LSU LA Cobras Roster ready for 2017 Draft 2015 Draft: 1-18: OLB Bud Dupree Kentucky 2-49: OG. Ali Marpet Hobart Don't do trade up in third 3-80: WR. Ty Montgomery Stanford 3-98: QB Bryce Petty Baylor 4-117: WR Dandre Smelter Georgia Tech Accept Ben Grubs Trade 5-172: DE/DT Michael Bennett Ohio State 5-173: DE Anthony Chickillo Miami 6-200: DT Rakeem Nunez-Roches Southern Miss 6-217: WR Austin Hill Arizona 7-233: OT La'el Collins LSU Ok I had kelcie McCray but I accepted the trade to seattle. I'm also gonna accept the bucs trade down so here are my picks 1-28 (28th): Myles Jack ILB/OLB UCLA 3-11 (74th): Kivaree Russel CB Notre Dame 4-8 (106th): Eric Muarry CB/S Minnesota 4-28 (126th): Demarcus Robinson WR Florida 5-25 (162nd): Kevin Hogan QB Stanford 5-28 (165th): Kyle Murphy OT Stanford 6-28 (203rd): Mike Thomas WR Southern Miss 7-28 (249th: Vernon Adams QB Oregon Ok. LA Cobras draft 2017 We accept A and B trade reject C and TE wasn't on our team 1st: QB: Pat Mahomes Texas Tech 2nd: DE: Tanoh Kpassagnon Villanova 3rd: RB: Kareem Hunt Toledo 5th: DT: Caleb Brantley Florida 5th: WR: Robert Davis Georgia State 6th: WR: Gabe Marks Washington State 6th: OT:Chad Wheeler USC 2018 Draft 2:52: Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn 3:86: Ronnie Harrison, SS, Alabama 4:122: Maurice Hurst , NT, Michigan 5:159: Kyle Fitts, DE, Utah 6:196: Tremon Smith, CB, Central Arkansas 6:209: Bradley Bozeman, OC, Alabama 7:233: Jordan Mailata, OT, Australia �� 7:240: Will Clapp, OC, LSU 7:243: Hercules Mata’afa, DT/DE\OLB, Washington State 2019 draft 2019 2 Mecole Hardman WR 2019 2 Juan Thornhill. S CB 2019 3 Khalen Saunders DT 2019 6 Rashad Fenton. CB 2019 6 Darwin Thompson. RB 2019 7 Nick Allegretti. OG QB 15 Pat Mahomes 8 Matt Moore 9 Kyle Shirmur HB 28 Mark Ingram 27 Kareem Hunt 31 Darrel Williams FB 42 Sherman, Anthony WR 14 Sammy Watkins 17 Mecloe Hardman 11 Demarcus Robinson 13 Byron Pringle 84 KJ. Hill 87 Travis Kelce 81 Blake Bell T 71 Mitchell Schwartz 78 La’el Collins 74 Martinas Rankin 68 Jordan Maliata G 66 Jackson, Gabe 75 Bradley Bozeman 74 Ali Marpert 61 Steven Wisnewski C 62 Austin Reiter 77 Nick AllGretti 67 Daniel Kilgore K 7 Harrison Butker P 2 Dustin Colquit LS 41 Winchester, james FS 32 Tyrann Mathieu 22 Juan Thornhill 49 Daniel Sorrenson 23 Armani Watts SS 36 Ronnie Harrison 32 Tyrann Mathieu CB 33 Carlton Davis 35 Chavarius Ward 27 Rashad Fenton 38 Ladarius Snead 48 Bo Pete Keyes 30 Dandre Baker OLB 44 Myles Jack 48 Bud Dupree 54 Damien Wilson MLB 53 Anthony Hitchens 56 Logan Wilson DE 57 Frank Clark 94 Taco Charlton 91 Tim Ward 52 Demone Harris DT 90 Ross Blacklock 98 Tervarious Wharton 73 Maurice Hurst 99 Khalen Saunders 64 Mike Pennel IR LB / DE Hercules Mata’afa OT Jordan Mailata DE. Breeland Speaks DE. Tim Ward WR. Joe Fortson TE. John Lovett WR. Marcus Kemp DT. Caleb Brantley Last edited by chiefscafan; 03-24-2021 at 01:06 AM..
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