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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 12-04-2011, 01:11 PM   #8056
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If OU had won, KSU would have finished 3rd in the conference since they lost to both OSU an OU.
That's not the way it works.
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Old 12-04-2011, 02:16 PM   #8057
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It's not so great having crappy teams that bring no value doing your bidding. Without Denver, Omaha, Kansas City, Saint Louis, and the aTm fanbase, it's not the same.
??????? Kansas City? The Big XII still has KC. KU and KSU owns that market according to Jayhawk and Wildcat fans.
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Old 12-04-2011, 02:17 PM   #8058
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??????? Kansas City? The Big XII still has KC. KU and KSU owns that market according to Jayhawk and Wildcat fans.
True. Literally thousands of Kansas football fans showed up at Arrowhead.
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:08 PM   #8059
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Per WDAE 620: "On Wednesday the Big East is set to announce the addition of national power Boise State, as well as San Diego State, Houston, SMU and UCF for football."
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:13 PM   #8060
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That's going to be some long road trips for SDSU.
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:37 PM   #8061
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**** it, just merge the BEast with the MWCUSA. Regionalize them as much as possible and have a two-game conference championship.
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:45 PM   #8062
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The Big 12 will never hold another event in KC, err...

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArtic...B_OEM_ID=10410

The athletic directors of the eight continuing and two new Big 12 Conference member institutions concluded two days of meetings today in New York City. The annual meeting was held in conjunction with this evening's National Football Foundation Hall of Fame induction banquet.

The ADs discussed football scheduling, the Bowl Championship Series, future television options, and governance matters, while also reaffirming the Big 12's commitment to hosting its men's basketball championship in Kansas City.

"Kansas City has a rich college basketball history," commented Big 12 Conference athletics director chairman and Iowa State University athletics director Jamie Pollard," and remains an attractive destination for our men's championship. It is an integral part of the Big 12 footprint and staging our championship at Sprint Center reinforces the strong presence of the Conference in the greater Kansas City area."

Last month, the Big 12 announced it would host its 2013 and 2014 women's soccer championships at LIVESTRONG Sporting Park in Kansas City, Kan. The Phillips 66 Big 12 Men's Basketball Championship is scheduled for Kansas City, Mo. through 2014.
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:49 PM   #8063
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The Big 12 will never hold another event in KC, err...

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArtic...B_OEM_ID=10410

The athletic directors of the eight continuing and two new Big 12 Conference member institutions concluded two days of meetings today in New York City. The annual meeting was held in conjunction with this evening's National Football Foundation Hall of Fame induction banquet.

The ADs discussed football scheduling, the Bowl Championship Series, future television options, and governance matters, while also reaffirming the Big 12's commitment to hosting its men's basketball championship in Kansas City.

"Kansas City has a rich college basketball history," commented Big 12 Conference athletics director chairman and Iowa State University athletics director Jamie Pollard," and remains an attractive destination for our men's championship. It is an integral part of the Big 12 footprint and staging our championship at Sprint Center reinforces the strong presence of the Conference in the greater Kansas City area."

Last month, the Big 12 announced it would host its 2013 and 2014 women's soccer championships at LIVESTRONG Sporting Park in Kansas City, Kan. The Phillips 66 Big 12 Men's Basketball Championship is scheduled for Kansas City, Mo. through 2014.


I thought Mizzou leaving the Big 12 was going to cost Kansas City, MO eleventy bajillion dollars?
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:54 PM   #8064
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I thought Mizzou leaving the Big 12 was going to cost Kansas City, MO eleventy bajillion dollars?
Kietzman's head just exploded.

"But whyyyyy? Why would they ever hold a tournament in a state where they have no teeeeeams?"
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:54 PM   #8065
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I don't see where it's staying past the already contracted date. Which I believe was the argument.
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:55 PM   #8066
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The Big 12 will never hold another event in KC, err...

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArtic...B_OEM_ID=10410

The athletic directors of the eight continuing and two new Big 12 Conference member institutions concluded two days of meetings today in New York City. The annual meeting was held in conjunction with this evening's National Football Foundation Hall of Fame induction banquet.

The ADs discussed football scheduling, the Bowl Championship Series, future television options, and governance matters, while also reaffirming the Big 12's commitment to hosting its men's basketball championship in Kansas City.

"Kansas City has a rich college basketball history," commented Big 12 Conference athletics director chairman and Iowa State University athletics director Jamie Pollard," and remains an attractive destination for our men's championship. It is an integral part of the Big 12 footprint and staging our championship at Sprint Center reinforces the strong presence of the Conference in the greater Kansas City area."

Last month, the Big 12 announced it would host its 2013 and 2014 women's soccer championships at LIVESTRONG Sporting Park in Kansas City, Kan. The Phillips 66 Big 12 Men's Basketball Championship is scheduled for Kansas City, Mo. through 2014.
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I thought Mizzou leaving the Big 12 was going to cost Kansas City, MO eleventy bajillion dollars?
My reaction to reading that article earlier today was one of absolute excitement for my city. Your reactions were to laugh and gloat about being right over other message board posters.

**** you guys.
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:58 PM   #8067
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My reaction to reading that article earlier today was one of absolute excitement for my city. Your reactions were to laugh and gloat about being right over other message board posters.

**** you guys.
Maybe he wasn't worried that the doomsday scenarios were going to come to pass.

When the clock struck midnight on January 1st, 2000, my reaction was to laugh at the Y2K chicken little types. It wasn't to squeal with glee because the world didn't fly off its axis.
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**** you guys.
They just realized this was obviously the case, and laughed at the people who assumed it was going to be armageddon for the economy of Kansas City.

There were also a boatload of KU fans swearing their school wouldn't or shouldn't stand for it, a conference tourney being held in a state where it has no teams.

I guess it could be held in Texas or Oklahoma every year, that would make more sense.
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http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArtic...B_OEM_ID=10410

The athletic directors of the eight continuing and two new Big 12 Conference member institutions concluded two days of meetings today in New York City. The annual meeting was held in conjunction with this evening's National Football Foundation Hall of Fame induction banquet.

The ADs discussed football scheduling, the Bowl Championship Series, future television options, and governance matters, while also reaffirming the Big 12's commitment to hosting its men's basketball championship in Kansas City.

"Kansas City has a rich college basketball history," commented Big 12 Conference athletics director chairman and Iowa State University athletics director Jamie Pollard," and remains an attractive destination for our men's championship. It is an integral part of the Big 12 footprint and staging our championship at Sprint Center reinforces the strong presence of the Conference in the greater Kansas City area."

Last month, the Big 12 announced it would host its 2013 and 2014 women's soccer championships at LIVESTRONG Sporting Park in Kansas City, Kan. The Phillips 66 Big 12 Men's Basketball Championship is scheduled for Kansas City, Mo. through 2014.
Well it is KANSAS City...
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