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Old Yesterday, 05:04 PM  
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[Florio speculates about] Raiders and Ben Johnson as HC
AFC West has to be the division with the best coaches, right? Andy, Harbaugh, Payton, and now potentially a gifted player caller in Ben Johnson...

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There’s currently no other destination that fits. Johnson has interviewed with the Raiders, Bears, Jaguars, and Patriots. The alignment he wants doesn’t exist in Jacksonville, and likely isn’t in play with the Bears. Unless the Cowboys (who blew their window to interview Johnson at any time before the Lions’ season ends because they didn’t interview him via Zoom last week) make a late run, it’s the Raiders or the status quo for Johnson.

More and more people in league circles believe it will be the Raiders.
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Old Yesterday, 10:56 PM   #61
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Oh god he's one those "my system will make anyone good!" Coaches.

Which means when his team blows because he can't get Aiden O'Connell to be Jared Goff and no point in his brain will it dawn on him that Goff is surrounded by a bunch of very high draft picks. It's all the system baby.
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Gonna go out on a limb and say this report is probably nonsense. He had the opportunity to find a job last offseason but stayed with Detroit in the interest of timing his depature and ultimate destination perfectly.

It would seem antithetical to go to the Raiders only because Brady is a part owner and you have no established QB on the roster nor an easy and clear path to getting one.

He deserves and can achieve more than the Raiders. I don't buy it.
I’m still surprised he didn’t go to Washington.
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I’m still surprised he didn’t go to Washington.
maybe the biggest mistake of his life...
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Maybe he just wants to be in Las Vegas?
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Interesting stuff from Schefter here....makes me think that Johnson is not as smart as we think. The guy wanted Sam Howell over Jayden....

https://www.raidersbeat.com/schefter...of-2024-draft/

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A report on Tuesday claimed Ben Johnson wanted nothing to do with Daniels prior to the 2024 draft and that was the reason the Commanders turned their plane around and chose not to consider him for their head-coaching job.

I don’t know if it’s been talked about publicly but the story that I got with what happened was they were en route. Adam Peters and them were en route to Detroit for the interview in conversation with Ben Johnson. It was brought up that Ben Johnson still wanted Sam Howell. That’s who he wanted to be his quarterback for his offense. And you know, there’s Carolina connections, all that stuff,” Washington insider Lake Lewis Jr. said on the Rambling with Rio Johnson podcast.

“And Adam Peters was like, ‘No,’ because they know who they’re going to draft, and we all knew who they were going to draft, and he didn’t want [Daniels]… So what I’m saying is kudos to Adam Peters for holding his guns and saying, ‘No, we know who we’re drafting, and that’s who you’re going to have to build with.’ And that’s the story that I got. It was Adam Peters just said turn that plane around.”
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Interesting stuff from Schefter here....makes me think that Johnson is not as smart as we think. The guy wanted Sam Howell over Jayden....

https://www.raidersbeat.com/schefter...of-2024-draft/
And he’ll only be your coach if you give him full control of personnel.
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Other than the turnip (Mark Davis), there’s much to consider for Vegas. Lots of draft picks, pick of GM?, arguably the best facilities in the NFL, some pieces in place on both sides of the ball, tax friendly state and seemingly a great deal of freedom to do your thing. Again I’m assuming Davis has handed over the reigns for the most part to Brady and stepping back.

I’d bet a years salary that if Mark Davis name showed on the caller ID, Ben Johnson, Pete Carroll or any of these names would not have answered the phone. This is the Brady affect
You conveniently left out the fact they don't have a QB and don't really have a good path to get one.

But hey Sam Howell could probably be available.
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Look, I like Sam Howell as a QB probably way more than I should, but even I'm not so stupid as to present my plan to my new team as, "The midround 1st year starter who didn't win you jack shit last year? Yeah, just use that guy!"

Nobody was telling Johnson he had to get rid of Howell. He could have kept him around, drafted the QB, and tested the theory to see if he was correct that Howell was actually the better guy.

This guy is Nick Sirriani level dumb. Probably less of an asshole, but just as dumb.
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Only takeaway here is that connections matter. Organizations don’t hire people. People hire people.

It was that way when Horseface lured Peyton to Denver. For us it was Dick Vermeil recommending Andy to Clark and then convincing Andy to take the job through a phone call.

We’ll need that at some point. Mahomes alone is a great selling point while he’s playing. I can only hope that after he retires he takes an active role like Tom Brady is in LV bc Ben Johnson doesn’t even pick up the phone if Brady doesn’t talk to him and his agent.

Clark is about to be 60. He’ll be in his 70’s when Mahomes is retired. Based on what we know, I would assume his 3 kids will manage the team together as a succession plan.

Yeah we’ll need people like Mahomes and Kelce to help us out at that point
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Only takeaway here is that connections matter. Organizations don’t hire people. People hire people.

It was that way when Horseface lured Peyton to Denver. For us it was Dick Vermeil recommending Andy to Clark and then convincing Andy to take the job through a phone call.

We’ll need that at some point. Mahomes alone is a great selling point while he’s playing. I can only hope that after he retires he takes an active role like Tom Brady is in LV bc Ben Johnson doesn’t even pick up the phone if Brady doesn’t talk to him and his agent.

Clark is about to be 60. He’ll be in his 70’s when Mahomes is retired. Based on what we know, I would assume his 3 kids will manage the team together as a succession plan.

Yeah we’ll need people like Mahomes and Kelce to help us out at that point


He hasn't even been hired. Maybe slow down?
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Only takeaway here is that connections matter. Organizations don’t hire people. People hire people.

It was that way when Horseface lured Peyton to Denver. For us it was Dick Vermeil recommending Andy to Clark and then convincing Andy to take the job through a phone call.

We’ll need that at some point. Mahomes alone is a great selling point while he’s playing. I can only hope that after he retires he takes an active role like Tom Brady is in LV bc Ben Johnson doesn’t even pick up the phone if Brady doesn’t talk to him and his agent.

Clark is about to be 60. He’ll be in his 70’s when Mahomes is retired. Based on what we know, I would assume his 3 kids will manage the team together as a succession plan.

Yeah we’ll need people like Mahomes and Kelce to help us out at that point
I was just telling my Dad the other day how Mahomes would be an ideal minority shareholder after he retires.
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I was just telling my Dad the other day how Mahomes would be an ideal minority shareholder after he retires.
Just give him whatever, you know he's gonna wanna be around.
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He hasn't even been hired. Maybe slow down?
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It doesn't make any sense. He didn't take a job with a team last year, because he was waiting for the right situation, so he's going to go to the worst franchise possible? A franchise that has 4 different head coaches in the last 6 years. Florio is a ****ing tard.
IF he takes that job and it is a big if at this point, I think it would safe to conclude that 1) he trusts Brady, 2) it is one of the few positions where he can bring in someone he trusts as GM and 3) the right situation was never about a QB.
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