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K9Texan · 05-26-2024, 08:50 PM

I'm not qualified to say. As an Ohio State fan I always enjoy reading the grades players received after each game. There is no way for the average fan to truly know how well ALL of the individual players played.

For instance, a former Ohio State coach created his own podcast and he obtains game videos and breaks them down for fans and essentially grades the players' performances. For a rabid fan, it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Does anyone do that for K.C. games?

Anyway, PFF DOES and so my question is, again, do you believe they're any good at it?

Blaker32 · 05-29-2024, 09:23 PM

The issue with PFF is that it works well in a vacuum but it doesn’t factor in scheme effectively. It doesn’t do a great job of addressing what the coach or coaching staff is asking the player to do.

OKchiefs · Today, 11:30 AM

Has there been any discussion on here related to how PFF has seemingly gotten their comeuppance for a shit product with nearly anyone with any real talent having jumped ship the past year or so? Everyone is gone, the names you see associated with PFF are nearly unrecognizable. What a shame, **** ‘em.

Dunerdr · Today, 02:15 PM

No but I believe in big foot.

Red Dawg · Today, 02:32 PM

Who cares. Football is not a game of numbers. Baseball is a game of numbers. Going by numbers Marino had them all when he retired and nothing to show for it. Box score doesn't tell the story of who won a game.

Football is a game of the 3rd and 4th quarter. That's where QB's, coaches and teams make a difference.

OKchiefs · Today, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Who cares. Football is not a game of numbers. Baseball is a game of numbers. Going by numbers Marino had them all when he retired and nothing to show for it. Box score doesn't tell the story of who won a game.

Football is a game of the 3rd and 4th quarter. That's where QB's, coaches and teams make a difference.

I think there is still some value, but PFF preaching like their numbers were gospel was aggravating. Seeing the sinking ship at PFF is gratifying.

https://www.wideleft.football/p/what...ppening-to-pff

MVChiefFan · Today, 02:43 PM

Look, we’ve been over this. If PFF grades out a Chiefs player as excellent, then yes, they are a very knowledgeable and reputable organization. If they don’t, then we scoff at their ignorance and wish death upon every person that collects an undeserved paycheck from that God-awful, shitty mess of a group of ass-hats.

05-26-2024, 08:50 PM
K9Texan Starter K9Texan's Avatar Join Date: May 2024	Do you believe that Pro Football Focus is any good at grading players? I'm not qualified to say. As an Ohio State fan I always enjoy reading the grades players received after each game. There is no way for the average fan to truly know how well ALL of the individual players played. For instance, a former Ohio State coach created his own podcast and he obtains game videos and breaks them down for fans and essentially grades the players' performances. For a rabid fan, it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Does anyone do that for K.C. games? Anyway, PFF DOES and so my question is, again, do you believe they're any good at it?
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Blaker32 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2019	The issue with PFF is that it works well in a vacuum but it doesn’t factor in scheme effectively. It doesn’t do a great job of addressing what the coach or coaching staff is asking the player to do.
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OKchiefs Black Bob's daddy OKchiefs's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: under the sun	Has there been any discussion on here related to how PFF has seemingly gotten their comeuppance for a shit product with nearly anyone with any real talent having jumped ship the past year or so? Everyone is gone, the names you see associated with PFF are nearly unrecognizable. What a shame, **** ‘em.
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Dunerdr MVP Dunerdr's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2012	No but I believe in big foot.
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Red Dawg Going home eventually Red Dawg's Avatar Join Date: Dec 2002	Who cares. Football is not a game of numbers. Baseball is a game of numbers. Going by numbers Marino had them all when he retired and nothing to show for it. Box score doesn't tell the story of who won a game. Football is a game of the 3rd and 4th quarter. That's where QB's, coaches and teams make a difference.
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MVChiefFan Veteran MVChiefFan's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Here	Look, we’ve been over this. If PFF grades out a Chiefs player as excellent, then yes, they are a very knowledgeable and reputable organization. If they don’t, then we scoff at their ignorance and wish death upon every person that collects an undeserved paycheck from that God-awful, shitty mess of a group of ass-hats.
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