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Old 08-22-2024, 07:16 PM   #2
pugsnotdrugs19 pugsnotdrugs19 is offline
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Wonder if the higher AAV than expected is a way to maybe give Trey a very similar deal and keep both happy here. Rather than trying to do Creed at $15m, and Trey then at $20m — maybe you can have both at around $18.5m by getting Smith to take an almost identical deal to stay home.

Either way, had to get this one done.
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Old 08-22-2024, 07:17 PM   #3
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We still gonna sign Trey Smith too?
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Old 08-22-2024, 07:18 PM   #4
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We still gonna sign Trey Smith too?
Nah, dog.
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Old 08-22-2024, 07:20 PM   #5
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We still gonna sign Trey Smith too?
50/50

I think Bolton's likely gone though.
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Old Yesterday, 09:18 AM   #6
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How can we afford him?


We have $17 mil I. Cap this year

But wow

$8 mil for next year.

We still have Smith and Bolten and other free agents
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Wonder if the higher AAV than expected is a way to maybe give Trey a very similar deal and keep both happy here. Rather than trying to do Creed at $15m, and Trey then at $20m — maybe you can have both at around $18.5m by getting Smith to take an almost identical deal to stay home.

Either way, had to get this one done.
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50/50

I think Bolton's likely gone though.
I agree. Smith is gone. Bolton depends on his play this year if we sign next year. We cant sign everyone. It is what it is.
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Old Yesterday, 12:09 PM   #7
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I agree. Smith is gone. Bolton depends on his play this year if we sign next year. We cant sign everyone. It is what it is.
If all you are doing is agreeing with 5 posts, consider give them a thumbs up instead of adding a redundant post to the thread.
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Old 08-22-2024, 07:23 PM   #8
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Veach and co. have this formula down to where it seems to be kinda predictable. In a good way nevertheless.

If you aren’t an elite, undoubted blue chip — you’re probably not getting paid here. Not market price anyhow. But if you are one of those top five-ish at your position, they’ll pay up accordingly.

A nice balance to hopefully keep the short term and long term equally prioritized.
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Old 08-22-2024, 07:29 PM   #9
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Veach and co. have this formula down to where it seems to be kinda predictable. In a good way nevertheless.

If you aren’t an elite, undoubted blue chip — you’re probably not getting paid here. Not market price anyhow. But if you are one of those top five-ish at your position, they’ll pay up accordingly.

A nice balance to hopefully keep the short term and long term equally prioritized.
Not really. Tyreek and Sneed were both top 5 at their positions. Tyreek was maybe top 1 lol.
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Old 08-22-2024, 07:37 PM   #10
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Not really. Tyreek and Sneed were both top 5 at their positions. Tyreek was maybe top 1 lol.
Fair - I should have added in the original post, there can’t be serious red flags around their game either.

Sneed had the knee. Tyreek had become a malcontent who cried for the ball.
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Old 08-22-2024, 07:42 PM   #11
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Fair - I should have added in the original post, there can’t be serious red flags around their game either.

Sneed had the knee. Tyreek had become a malcontent who cried for the ball.
I think it’s pretty clear they were gonna re-sign Reek before the Davante deal dropped.

Once that did, it set off the domino of allowing him to explore deals and once Veach learned what kind of draft compensation he could get in addition to the financial flexibility of NOT having the highest paid WR in the game, it made it a no brainer for him.


Edit: And he was right, I should add.
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Old 08-22-2024, 08:29 PM   #12
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Fair - I should have added in the original post, there can’t be serious red flags around their game either.

Sneed had the knee. Tyreek had become a malcontent who cried for the ball.
Tyreek was 1000% signing here if Adams hadn't gotten his deal.
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Old 08-22-2024, 08:36 PM   #13
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Fair - I should have added in the original post, there can’t be serious red flags around their game either.

Sneed had the knee. Tyreek had become a malcontent who cried for the ball.
I think you're trying too hard to find a system behind who re-signs and who doesn't. There's a bunch of varying factors behind each negotiation and eventual deals that it wouldn't make any sense to have a concrete system that you always go on.
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Old 08-22-2024, 07:32 PM   #14
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Veach and co. have this formula down to where it seems to be kinda predictable. In a good way nevertheless.

If you aren’t an elite, undoubted blue chip — you’re probably not getting paid here. Not market price anyhow. But if you are one of those top five-ish at your position, they’ll pay up accordingly.

A nice balance to hopefully keep the short term and long term equally prioritized.
I think they pay their unicorns (I.E. players whose impact can’t be replicated with another player or a scheme change). I don’t quite see Creed in that way, but if he’s getting credit for Patrick’s evolution in the pocket, I could see it.
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Old 08-22-2024, 07:25 PM   #15
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Protect Mahomes! This is the number one goal. We can see if someone looks good to replace smith or we draft his replacement next year.
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