6-inning minimum for starting pitchers being considered by MLB commissioner's office

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by scho63

Baseball is better with the pitch clock but baseball's problem is NOT needing more runs. Baseball's problem is that only 6-7 teams compete every year since the late 70's, early 80's.

The NFL has the best structure by far to bring in new teams each year into the playoffs. 7-8 teams drop out and new ones come in on average each year.

When your team has had no hope for 45 years, why waste time watching?

That’s because of the power of the MLBPA in baseball. MLB would love a salary cap if they could get it, but that would lead to years of labor strife that nobody wants or needs.

[Discuss Thrower]

Raise the mound back to the Gibson era and play ball.

[Dartgod]

How about just leaving the game the **** alone.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

How about just leaving the game the **** alone.

That ship sailed years ago when analytics completely changed everything about the game and made it nearly unwatchable.

MLB wouldn’t be making these changes to what it once was otherwise.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

How about just leaving the game the **** alone.

Analytics has made baseball more boring than ever. Tons of pitching changes. Players never putting the ball in play. Shift stealing hits. Guys striking out a billion times. Less SBs. The goal is to make it as exciting as it was and remember when Nolan Ryan pitched like 260 ip with probably no UCL? Game went faster too.

I'd even vote for metal bats. I want dingers god damn it. 90s baseball was so awesome. Metal bats and you don't even need HGH and Barry Bonds dome head.

[Ocotillo]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Analytics has made baseball more boring than ever. Tons of pitching changes. Players never putting the ball in play. Shift stealing hits. Guys striking out a billion times. Less SBs. The goal is to make it as exciting as it was and remember when Nolan Ryan pitched like 260 ip with probably no UCL? Game went faster too.

I'd even vote for metal bats. I want dingers god damn it. 90s baseball was so awesome. Metal bats and you don't even need HGH and Barry Bonds dome head.

Dingers aren't the issue. Three true outcomes are one of the prevailing outcomes of analytics.

It's the lack of suspenseful plays on balls in play where the defense is tested.

Screw metal bats. The asthetics of the crack of the bat is one of the appeals of the majors. Plus, it would never happen anyway due to pitcher safety.

[Megatron96]

This cannot be real.

[Frazod]

All the stupid shit they've done and want to do yet they still let umpires call balls and strikes, despite having the technology in place to do it automatically and CORRECTLY.

[crayzkirk]

Sounds like the perfect thing for the big market teams to ensure they continue their stranglehold on the league. They can continue to buy up the talent and then feast on the lesser teams even more than they already do.

I believe baseball needs a real salary cap to make things fair. However, I'm pretty sure that the big market teams like things the way they are.

[Valiant]

They love dumb rules. But won't put a salary floor or ceiling. Hell, I would be happy with a more NBA style. Give max contracts and or deals for homegrown talent.
These rules are to help ensure the big markets teams stay on top.
They love stopping metrics for defensive strategy. But make players hit better or for contact? Nah.

[Ocotillo]

The pitching is arguably as tough as it's ever been with the sheer number of pitchers that throw in the high 90s and the fact that the pitching labs can help hurlers perfect their breaking stuff and a good number throw unhittable sliders.

But hitting approach is complicit, too.

Luis Arraez strikes out only 4.7% of the time, but his wRC+ is 103. He has been traded twice in the last two years. He's not valued by Major League Baseball.

The hitters know that selling out for extra base hits is what gets them paid.

Contact hitters like Steven Kwan and Nico Hoerner bring more to the table as defenders, but if you're not lifting the ball into the air, it's hard to hold a job in the sport.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Ocotillo

The pitching is arguably as tough as it's ever been with the sheer number of pitchers that throw in the high 90s and the fact that the pitching labs can help hurlers perfect their breaking stuff and a good number throw unhittable sliders.

But hitting approach is complicit, too.

Luis Arraez strikes out only 4.7% of the time, but his wRC+ is 103. He has been traded twice in the last two years. He's not valued by Major League Baseball.

The hitters know that selling out for extra base hits is what gets them paid.

Contact hitters like Steven Kwan and Nico Hoerner bring more to the table as defenders, but if you're not lifting the ball into the air, it's hard to hold a job in the sport.

It’s also crazy how many defensive specialists there are who are some of the worst hitters in the history of the game. You’ve got guys like Joey gallo who have somehow built long careers off of being disgustingly bad hitters

[Ocotillo]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

It’s also crazy how many defensive specialists there are who are some of the worst hitters in the history of the game. You’ve got guys like Joey gallo who have somehow built long careers off of being disgustingly bad hitters

Gallo is the prime example of how MLB teams will tolerate a batter whiffing eight times in a series if he launches a three-run homer in one of the games. They'll take that trade off. Gallo walks of course, too.

Gallo, like Javy Baez, had his hey day. For a two month period in 2019, he played like an elite player. He shouldn't have a job in 2024 baseball though. Washington is starting him today even though he has a .168/.286/.316 slash line.