****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

[Sofa King]

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

But if that's the case, why would Andy provide reasoning that would create expectations for change?

Makes zero sense.

What's it matter to him what we all think or expect though?

I don't think he's necessarily lying, I'd imagine it's more coach speak

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

"Veach was powerless to do anything about the WR room since the end of 2021. he had no choice but to draft Skyy, hang onto MVS, let Hardman go/then bring him back," etc. and so on.

Yea you! Give yourself a big handjob

Do you even know what you’re arguing about? Or have you just gone in circles enough given your frequently inane arguments you’re just very dizzy?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

What's it matter to him what we all think or expect though?

I don't think he's necessarily lying, I'd imagine it's more coach speak

It's not about us. This is the answer he gave the media. Surely, if something doesn't change, they will be asking even more questions.

This isn't Andy's first rodeo.

I guess we shall see what changes are made coming out of the bye though.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by staylor26

But if that's the case, why would Andy provide reasoning that would create expectations for change?

Makes zero sense.

NONE of it makes any sense.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

It's not about us. This is the answer he gave the media. Surely, if something doesn't change, they will be asking even more questions.

This isn't Andy's first rodeo.

I guess we shall see what changes are made coming out of the bye though.

I just always judge them by the actions. But we will find out here pretty quick.

[O.city]

If he's healthy enough to be active, play the guy. If he's not, sit him and get him healthy.

[jettio]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

That story doesn't match this snap count.

16, 19, 2, 17, 25, 30, 13, 12, 7.

Snap counts and WR targets are what the devil invented to make fans that never called plays even for Pop Warner think they know more about NFL offense than Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid.

Versus Dolphins Toney has one catch for 18 yards that he catches at 5 yards and makes 10 yards after contact and defeats 4 tackling attempts before being tackled by 2 Dolphins and then fights to get up so that he can go nuts.

[O.city]

When the offense is sputtering and there's a guy doing that, I'd say getting him more snaps and the ball would be a good thing.

[jettio]

Originally Posted by O.city

When the offense is sputtering and there's a guy doing that, I'd say getting him more snaps and the ball would be a good thing.

Andy Reid and Steve Spagnuolo are not coaching to fight for every inch on the field and maximum Chiefs points and minimize opponents points.

They coach for getting the win and staying healthy.

[chiefzilla1501]

Zay flowers and rashee rice are very different WRs. Id love to have flowers for very different reasons. I think he like so many other WRs are handcuffed to a situation that doesn't let him fully play to his abilities. But I'm really not upset at all with getting rice. What we need most is a swiss army knife and he has better potential to be that. He's gotta get better and better at running a bigger route tree and beating lots of different coverages and we need to trust him, but he's way further along than I think anyone would've expected.

Now Quentin Johnston on the other hand... Holy ****, that is a great demo of how far along rice is

[O.city]

The issue everyone is gonna have with these guys were gonna be drafted at th end of the first, is that they're likely to be on a similar developmental curve as Rice.

Sure, we could hit a Jefferson that comes in and just takes off. But that's not gonna be likely.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by O.city

The issue everyone is gonna have with these guys were gonna be drafted at th end of the first, is that they're likely to be on a similar developmental curve as Rice.

Sure, we could hit a Jefferson that comes in and just takes off. But that's not gonna be likely.

I'm wondering if how this season ends impacts their decision for 2024.

Lose early in the playoffs because the offense sputters? Maybe go get a FA WR to accelerate that curve.

Win the whole ****ing thing? They'll be patient and draft one - or maybe not address the position at all.

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by O.city

The issue everyone is gonna have with these guys were gonna be drafted at th end of the first, is that they're likely to be on a similar developmental curve as Rice.

Sure, we could hit a Jefferson that comes in and just takes off. But that's not gonna be likely.

I don’t think anyone has a problem with the development curve of Rice. The problem is if they’re closer to the development (or lack thereof) of Hardman and Moore.

[Sassy Squatch]

Meh, probably going to addressed it the same regardless. If there's a guy that hits FA Mahomes wants bad enough, we'll probably get him in here. If not, the same thing with the draft.

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

I'm wondering if how this season ends impacts their decision for 2024.

Lose early in the playoffs because the offense sputters? Maybe go get a FA WR to accelerate that curve.

Win the whole ****ing thing? They'll be patient and draft one - or maybe not address the position at all.

Regardless of how this season turns out I don’t see not addressing the position even being a remote possibility. If the offense struggles the rest of the year and they lose early in the playoffs because of it you probably see a massive over correction to address the issue (significant FA/Trade acquisition and draft).

If the offense shows enough improvement I think you still see WR addressed through both FA and draft, but FA is probably a cheap veteran and draft won’t absolutely HAVE to be in the 1st.