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**DaFace** · 11-10-2021, 05:45 PM

Is the NFL considering expanding? And if so, how does that impact the St. Louis lawsuit? @AllbrightNFL explained today on #BKandFerrario.

PODCAST: https://t.co/c8klxwyyQk pic.twitter.com/EoMEkeky7Y
— 101 ESPN St. Louis (@101espn) November 4, 2021

Cheater5 · 11-10-2021, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

I have watched much less football this year. Maybe one game a week other than the Chiefs. Dilution of the product will just make me care less.

Me too. I used to arrange my entire Sunday around the NFL. Now, I mostly watch all of the Chiefs game, but a few times I’ve missed the first quarter or even a half. I’ll watch other games if it’s a compelling matchup, but that’s not as often as it used to be.

**Rain Man** · 11-10-2021, 07:28 PM

I look forward to our future games against the St. Louis Archers, Mexico City Aztecs, Portland Rogues, and El Paso Outlaws.

jettio · 11-10-2021, 07:31 PM

Seems like puffery regarding the St. Louis litigation, trying to make it seem stronger than it really is.

Jerm · 11-10-2021, 07:31 PM

Expanding the season to 17 games was too much already IMO….18? Hell no.

London? Absolutely not…

carcosa · 11-10-2021, 07:32 PM

Remember in old versions of Madden when you could move your team to Davenport, Iowa?

**Bearcat** · 11-10-2021, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Probably 1.62 million more than London if the Jaguars were their team.

That's all they get though and they sell out games... has there ever been a decent London game where any die hard football fan would think, damn, that should sell some people on the game!

Seems like every year it's a couple of the worst teams in the league.

**Bob Dole** · 11-10-2021, 07:47 PM

I really don't like the Europe thing.

ThyKingdomCome15 · 11-10-2021, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

I really don't like the Europe thing.

Tea and crumpets!!

WhawhaWhat · 11-10-2021, 07:54 PM

The quality of play with 4 more teams is going to be horrendous.

jd1020 · 11-10-2021, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

That's all they get though and they sell out games... has there ever been a decent London game where any die hard football fan would think, damn, that should sell some people on the game!

Seems like every year it's a couple of the worst teams in the league.

The natural craving for something that you don't have until you have it and then you don't want it as much any more.

displacedinMN · 11-10-2021, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

More ≠ Better

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Chief Roundup · 11-10-2021, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa

Remember in old versions of Madden when you could move your team to Davenport, Iowa?

No, why in the hell would anyone want a team there.

Chief Roundup · 11-10-2021, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

The quality of play with 4 more teams is going to be horrendous.

College is still popular with that kind of play.

**Rain Man** · 11-10-2021, 08:10 PM

If you went to 36 teams, then you're going to have one of the following:

18 divisions with 2 teams each
12 divisions with 3 teams each
9 divisions with 4 teams each
6 divisions with 6 teams each
4 divisions with 9 teams each
3 divisions with 12 teams each
2 divisions with 18 teams each

That kind of argues for six divisions with six teams.

So what's your playoffs in a three-division conference with six teams per division? You know it won't be smaller than it is now, so I doubt that it would be three division winners and a wildcard in a field of 18 teams. It'll be really awkward. Maybe something like two first round byes and then the third team plays in a pool with every second round team? That's still smaller than we have now. You could go with eight teams and the playoffs go to the first and second place teams in each division, plus two third-place teams. But that's not much of a reward for winning your division.

But there's a nice alternative if we think outside the box. They might go with the unprecedented step of having three conferences of twelve teams each. Now you have each conference having playoffs with the three division winners and one wild card. Nice and easy.

However, what happens next? You have three division champions. Who plays in the Super Bowl? The obvious answer is a round-robin tournament where each team plays the other, and whoever does the worst gets eliminated. The two survivors play the super bowl.

Oh, or wait! We have four conferences with nine teams each. Each conference has three divisions with three teams each. Four of those teams play in the playoffs (4 of the 9 teams), and at the end you have four conference winners who play each other to get to the Super Bowl. That's easy to implement, and you have 44 percent of teams getting into the playoffs, which maximizes revenue. You also have four rounds of playoff games.

So now you've got three conferences, and each one

|Zach| · 11-10-2021, 08:11 PM

London is a massive world class city they would absolutely support an NFL team. Does not mean it should be done but the idea that it would not be popular does not really track for me. Just hard to imagine because surely they would be at such a competitive disadvantage in regards to travel. Would be interesting to see how they would approach all of that.

Mexico City makes sense so does Toronto.

I am not as in to the NFL like I used to be so part of me knows this is a bad idea but the other part wants to see it play out just out of curisoity.

11-10-2021, 05:45 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod DaFace's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land	NFL considering 18 games and 36 teams Is the NFL considering expanding? And if so, how does that impact the St. Louis lawsuit? @AllbrightNFL explained today on #BKandFerrario. PODCAST: https://t.co/c8klxwyyQk pic.twitter.com/EoMEkeky7Y — 101 ESPN St. Louis (@101espn) November 4, 2021
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11-10-2021, 07:31 PM	#48
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11-10-2021, 08:10 PM	#59
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	If you went to 36 teams, then you're going to have one of the following: 18 divisions with 2 teams each 12 divisions with 3 teams each 9 divisions with 4 teams each 6 divisions with 6 teams each 4 divisions with 9 teams each 3 divisions with 12 teams each 2 divisions with 18 teams each That kind of argues for six divisions with six teams. So what's your playoffs in a three-division conference with six teams per division? You know it won't be smaller than it is now, so I doubt that it would be three division winners and a wildcard in a field of 18 teams. It'll be really awkward. Maybe something like two first round byes and then the third team plays in a pool with every second round team? That's still smaller than we have now. You could go with eight teams and the playoffs go to the first and second place teams in each division, plus two third-place teams. But that's not much of a reward for winning your division. But there's a nice alternative if we think outside the box. They might go with the unprecedented step of having three conferences of twelve teams each. Now you have each conference having playoffs with the three division winners and one wild card. Nice and easy. However, what happens next? You have three division champions. Who plays in the Super Bowl? The obvious answer is a round-robin tournament where each team plays the other, and whoever does the worst gets eliminated. The two survivors play the super bowl. Oh, or wait! We have four conferences with nine teams each. Each conference has three divisions with three teams each. Four of those teams play in the playoffs (4 of the 9 teams), and at the end you have four conference winners who play each other to get to the Super Bowl. That's easy to implement, and you have 44 percent of teams getting into the playoffs, which maximizes revenue. You also have four rounds of playoff games. So now you've got three conferences, and each one
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\|Zach\| For The Glory Of The City \|Zach\|'s Avatar Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City	London is a massive world class city they would absolutely support an NFL team. Does not mean it should be done but the idea that it would not be popular does not really track for me. Just hard to imagine because surely they would be at such a competitive disadvantage in regards to travel. Would be interesting to see how they would approach all of that. Mexico City makes sense so does Toronto. I am not as in to the NFL like I used to be so part of me knows this is a bad idea but the other part wants to see it play out just out of curisoity. Last edited by \|Zach\|; 11-10-2021 at 08:50 PM..
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