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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 10-25-2023, 04:21 PM   #4981
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Oh, now you’ve moved the goalposts from what you were saying before. It’s not even worth having this discussion with you.

No, I always said we get a comp pick back but I mentioned we could get another lower round pick if we gave away a 2nd or 3rd in other discussions.


If you think getting a lower pick back plus a comp for a guy who would be a #1 WR in a SB run is rich well, that's your right.
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Old 10-25-2023, 05:55 PM   #4982
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Didn’t realize it in real time, but Travis was on the sideline for 3 of our 4 TD’s Sunday.

That’s encouraging that we can get it done without him. Hopefully that continues when he’s not on the field.
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Old 10-25-2023, 05:55 PM   #4983
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So did we "lose our future" when we drafted Skyy Moore?



And if we are going to play this game I would want a draft pick, say a 4th round back if we gave up a 2.

So get back a 4th and a comp pick for a 2nd and a guy who would be the #1WR here for a SB run.
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Old 10-25-2023, 06:48 PM   #4984
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No, I always said we get a comp pick back but I mentioned we could get another lower round pick if we gave away a 2nd or 3rd in other discussions.
OH! Is that what you actually said or what you want to pretend that you said?

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So you’d give up a 2 for him?
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Without hesitation.

We drafted Mecole and Skyy already and have nothing to show for it right now on the field, had we hit on either maybe its another conversation.
You're hilarious. Hard to take you seriously when you can't even keep things straight in your own head.
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Old 10-25-2023, 07:02 PM   #4985
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OH! Is that what you actually said or what you want to pretend that you said?





You're hilarious. Hard to take you seriously when you can't even keep things straight in your own head.


Yes, I would give up a 2nd for him. I would also ask for a lower round pick back.


If Veach can get it done cheaper, great.


We also get a comp back, so get on your shades because the future is so bright.
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Old 10-25-2023, 07:18 PM   #4986
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Yes, I would give up a 2nd for him. I would also ask for a lower round pick back.
But if they said "no" on giving back a lower round pick, you would still do the deal "without hesitation."

Not putting words in your mouth. That's what you said. You would be a great GM.
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Old 10-25-2023, 07:31 PM   #4987
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But if they said "no" on giving back a lower round pick, you would still do the deal "without hesitation."

Not putting words in your mouth. That's what you said. You would be a great GM.

No, I wouldn't make a great GM but I would still be a whole lot better than you at it.





Oh my god, no future if we lost a 2nd round pick and got a comp pick back!!!
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Old 10-25-2023, 07:33 PM   #4988
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No, I wouldn't make a great GM but I would still be a whole lot better than you at it.


Yeah, but I remember what I said before. And I'm consistent and logical.

I said I'd be okay giving up a 3 for Brown. I also said I'd much prefer a 6th for Hardman. And here we are after we got Hardman for essentially that and he had 2 huge plays...
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Old 10-25-2023, 07:36 PM   #4989
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Yeah, but I remember what I said before. And I'm consistent and logical.

I said I'd be okay giving up a 3 for Brown. I also said I'd much prefer a 6th for Hardman. And here we are after we got Hardman for essentially that and he had 2 huge plays...


Hardman is someone I wanted back too. He isn't going to be a move the chains WR here though so pretending he can do what Brown or Mooney can do is stupid.
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Old 10-25-2023, 07:38 PM   #4990
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Hardman is someone I wanted back too. He isn't going to be a move the chains WR here though so pretending he can do what Brown or Mooney can do is stupid.
Oh, thanks for explaining that. Giving up a 2 - your position - is also different from giving back a 6.

Your position is so fluid based on the moment that I realize it's difficult for you to keep some semblance of consistency.
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Old 10-25-2023, 07:39 PM   #4991
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Twisted is straight vaporizing everyone today.

I’m just eating popcorn and enjoying the show.
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Old 10-25-2023, 07:40 PM   #4992
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You know if Veach posted here as just some random guy expressing opinions and no one knew he he was, there would be a percentage of people calling him a dipshit and telling him they'd be a better GM than he could ever be.
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Old 10-25-2023, 07:44 PM   #4993
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Oh, thanks for explaining that. Giving up a 2 - your position - is also different from giving back a 6.

Your position is so fluid based on the moment that I realize it's difficult for you to keep some semblance of consistency.


It's hard to win Superbowls. We already saw every year with Mahomes we won it or lost on a few plays (with the exception of the Tampa SB).

Right now we have a 1 year window with Chris Jones, Kelce still playing etc.

I don't get your obsession with saving a few million for 3 years from now or caring about a 2nd round pick getting a comp pick back but I will be sure to logon to see what you say if Veach pulls the trigger and gives up anything higher than a 4th round pick.

Hopefully you will stay along for the ride as we go for our 2nd in a row.


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Old 10-25-2023, 07:46 PM   #4994
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It's hard to win Superbowls. We already saw every year with Mahomes we won it or lost on a few plays (with the exception of the Tampa SB).

Right now we have a 1 year window with Chris Jones, Kelce still playing etc.

I don't get your obsession with saving a few million for 3 years from now or caring about a 2nd round pick getting a comp pick back but I will be sure to logon to see what you say if Veach pulls the trigger and gives up anything higher than a 4th round pick.

Hopefully you will stay along for the ride as we go for our 2nd in a row.



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Old 10-25-2023, 07:49 PM   #4995
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I don't get your obsession with saving a few million for 3 years from now or caring about a 2nd round pick getting a comp pick back but I will be sure to logon to see what you say if Veach pulls the trigger and gives up anything higher than a 4th round pick.

Hopefully you will stay along for the ride as we go for our 2nd in a row.
Buddy, I trust Veach. I trusted him at the beginning of the season when he thought this WR room was good enough. I trust him that he felt Hardman was a good addition. If he got Brown for a 2 I'd say it's an overpay but I'd also be pretty confident that Veach would feel he would be able to sign him to a reasonable extension.

I have trust in Veach. You keep citing his failure to draft WRs based on Moore and Hardman and explicitly do NOT trust him.

That's our primary difference. I believe these guys have earned the benefit of multiple doubts and I don't entirely judge and form my worldview based on small sample sizes.
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