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Join Date: Nov 2002
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House of the Dragon
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
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A lot of people got pissed about the Mad Queen Dany thing but I really didn't. And maybe that's book background stuff.
She was always batshit. Her POV chapters flesh it out better but you can see that the crazy is just below the surface almost all the time. But yeah, the show just made her out as too likeable and too much of a heroic figure in a show that was mostly about shades of grey and moral ambiguity. So the fans found one 'pure' person they felt they could cling to and it felt like a betrayal. But that is the fans fault more than anything. They didn't see the stuff they didn't want to see. |
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And yeah, Euron killing Rhaegel - I forgot about how bad that one was. I remember thinking "wait, you're in YOUR center of operations. Uh - don't have any scouts around, guys?"
Like seriously, how's Euron going to sail all the way from Kings Landing, through the blackwater bay and over to Dragonstone without anyone noticing? And yeah, that's to say nothing of the fact that he evidently shot through or around a mountain with impeccable accuracy from miles off. The show made Dragons, these things that allowed a previously mediocre family from Essos to dominate an ENTIRE continent, super weak. Okay cool - Ice dagger from a demon zombie thing, you win this round. But c'mon - you telling me that in the hundreds of years since the Targaryen's conquered Westeros, nobody came up with "Hey - what if we fired a REALLY big ****ing arrow at it?" Gimme something better than that. |
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You gotta kill a few people
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Yeah, she doesn't look so bad because she's almost always either surrounded by people who make her look better (Viserys, Khal Drogo) or fighting for a noble cause (ending slavery in Essos, reclaiming her family's Iron Throne).
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Guess I'll give this a shot just because it's GoT, but that trailer did nothing to make me want to watch this series. Hard to imagine getting really invested in a whole new cast of characters chasing the "Iron Throne", much less those Targaryens who we know will ultimately be deposed anyway and for good cause. The dragons are cool I'm sure, but that's already been done. Seemed like the major story line will be whether or not a girl can rule in a realm full of pig-headed males.
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I have never found her terribly likeable or sympathetic in the books - nothing like how she comes across in the show. As her POV chapters continue she sounds more and more like the show version of Viserys. "I AM THE DRAGON! I will take what is mine!" and shit like that. And they don't completely avoid it in the series but like I said - folks often saw what they wanted to see there and responded with "Hell yea! Slay queeeeeen!" When really they should've asked themselves if maaaaaybe a little trouble may be a brewin' here... |
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I will say that the casting of Matt Smith as Daemon Targaryen worries me, though. That's...not what I have ever envisioned. But if you want a Viserys type character there, I guess he works. And if that's the direction they take the character then I guess it COULD be 'can a woman rule'? It's just that Daemon is NOT a Viserys type character. He's pretty much a badass. Sort of a cross between Littlefinger and Arthur Dayne. It's hard to explain my issues here without spoiling essentially the whole series here, but again - that trailer feels REALLY sideways to me. |
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#39 |
You gotta kill a few people
Join Date: Sep 2007
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The internal monologue really does prep you for the character's actions in a way that a show never could.
The thing of it is, Daenerys honestly has every reason to be psychotic. In the books she had grown up being abused by her sniveling little shit of an older brother and was then married off to a horselord at the age of 11. I still can't believe the ages GRRM decided to roll with in the books. What did he gain by settling on 11 for Daenerys' age? Lol. I don't care if it makes sense in the context of a medieval fantasy story. |
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#41 |
Ain't no relax!
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Just keeps getting worse...
'House of the Dragon' will have less sex than 'Game of Thrones,' according to the showrunners |
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But yeah, seems likely that the late-stage GOT where the nudity was pretty much gone is going to be the likely tone of the series. HBO seems to have recognized that there is just no shortage of boobs on the interwebs. |
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#43 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Oct 2007
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That also means less gay sex scenes and dicks.
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#45 |
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