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#4127 | |
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Kansas City, MO
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At some point the raw offensive numbers just are what they are, and you don't need a lot of nuance and play-by-play breakdowns to acknowledge it was an outstanding day for Mahomes. Especially when you consider that there is a ton of guesswork for PFF as to what players are supposed to be doing each play. I'm not a PFF hater. I do place some value in their metrics, particularly around o-linemen and defensive players. Their metrics can be good for trying to provide some objective measurement for areas that otherwise can't be measured. Don't need to do that as much with the QB position. |
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#4128 |
Consuming CP souls
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: U.S.A.
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#4129 |
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Join Date: Feb 2018
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If Mahomes throws a screen pass to a running back, and then that running back takes the ball 50 yards down the field because of excellent blocking and the RB breaking tackles, was this a good play by Mahomes? Is it a play that any other of 50 QBs in the league could not make? Would it have been a worse play by Mahomes if the OL missed a block after 10 yards and it was only a 10 yard gain? When Andy draws up a great pop pass play design, Mahomes pitches a ball 1 yard forward and Tyreek takes the ball 74 more yards for a touchdown, would you grade Mahomes the same for that as if he threw the ball 50 yards in the air, hitting Tyreek perfectly in stride for a 75 yard touchdown? The box score says these are the same. I am sure PFF will try to give credit for a throw being placed in the right position for a receiver to get YAC, rather than a throw which is not placed accurately enough for the receiver to get YAC, but the majority of YAC will be down to the receiver who has the ball in their hands. It's almost like you have to watch the plays to decide if Mahomes played well, rather than just look at the end stats. We both agree there is a ton guesswork by PFF, that is why I don't think its particularly good. The idea that PFF should agree with the box score is inherently bizarre.. why would they exist as a business if you could tell all you need to by looking at a stat line? Why would any team bother with any analytics or grading, if the box score is so great? |
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#4131 |
Consuming CP souls
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#4132 |
Special Teams ACE!!!
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
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#4133 |
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#4134 |
Please squeeze
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Clinton, MO
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Cody Burrow Rhodes
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#4135 |
Cheat Death
Join Date: Nov 2007
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#4137 |
Special Teams ACE!!!
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
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Looks like Burrow is copying a page from the Mahomes playbook and adopting the Coors Light diet
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#4138 |
I'll be back.
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Perpetual Mediocrity
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#4140 |
The man you could post like.
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Supposed to be some weird homage to Eminem or something?
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