*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****

[Dante84]

IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!

[TheGuardian]

Ok back to the game for a minute - that high cover 2 shell has given Pat fits for years now.

The Bungles run it a bit better than most, but Tampa ran it and perfected it but you need the backers for it, with at least a great edge rusher as well. Sound familiar?

So when Romo said they dare the Chiefs to run, that is what they do. And we did run the ball very effectively. The issue is, once you get into the red zone it gets small in there and the fact is, we haven't been great in the red zone for years.

So this is why we struggle against this Bangles team year after year. And I think we're going to see more of this defense again in coming weeks since this offense doesn't look any better than lats year (possibly worse?) and Pat is not playing well. Look, the dude is gonna go down as one of the greatest of all times, but it's also fair to say that he's struggling the last year+ compared to years past (yes we just won the SB I'm talking about his regular season play).

It's odd to me that we don't come in more prepared against that cover 2 shell...but also Andy has gotten stupid coonservative in his play calling. 4th and goal from the 1 and we kick a FG???

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Jimmy G has a better career passer rating than Tom Brady.

Rodgers and Mahomes also blow him out of the water in that regard.

Which shows how overrated stats can be when taken out of context.

Brady didn't care about stats, he was all about winning. I believe Pat is built from the same type of mindset which is good for us Chief fans. There's no better feeling than that SB victory.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Andy has gotten stupid conservative in his play calling. 4th and goal from the 1 and we kick a FG???

Andy’s short yardage playcalling is not very good. He made a good choice to kick the FG. They lose that game if they fail on 4th down instead of getting those 3 points. We just saw it happen to the Eagles where they lost a game by 1 point after failing on 4th & Goal in the 1st Quarter.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Ok back to the game for a minute - that high cover 2 shell has given Pat fits for years now.

The Bungles run it a bit better than most, but Tampa ran it and perfected it but you need the backers for it, with at least a great edge rusher as well. Sound familiar?

So when Romo said they dare the Chiefs to run, that is what they do. And we did run the ball very effectively. The issue is, once you get into the red zone it gets small in there and the fact is, we haven't been great in the red zone for years.

So this is why we struggle against this Bangles team year after year. And I think we're going to see more of this defense again in coming weeks since this offense doesn't look any better than lats year (possibly worse?) and Pat is not playing well. Look, the dude is gonna go down as one of the greatest of all times, but it's also fair to say that he's struggling the last year+ compared to years past (yes we just won the SB I'm talking about his regular season play).

It's odd to me that we don't come in more prepared against that cover 2 shell...but also Andy has gotten stupid coonservative in his play calling. 4th and goal from the 1 and we kick a FG???

Windows get tight down there and you've gotta trust guys to be in spots. It just doesn't seem like Pat does? I dunno.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by O.city

Windows get tight down there and you've gotta trust guys to be in spots. It just doesn't seem like Pat does? I dunno.

Andy took the ball out of Mahomes’ hands on that sequence. Two straight runs up the middle for zero gain. But I think it was a good choice to kick the FG. Eagles sure wish they did it last night.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

You can argue that Brady's career numbers are weighed down by what he was prior to 2007, but it doesn't change the fact that he wasn't particularly good in the first quarter of his career (and still won 3 SBs in that stretch due to an elite defense around him).

I’d argue that’s the case for any QB who played prior to about 2004 or so as Garoppolo also has a career passer rating higher than Peyton Manning, Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Steve Young and Kurt Warner.

In any case, Brady wasn’t bad prior to 2007. Take a gander at the leading passers for each year from 2002-2006. Brady was typically inside the top 10 for passing yards and TD:INT ratio. Then consider the offensive weapons he was working with during that timeframe.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...02/passing.htm

Even if I concede that he was mid for the six seasons prior to breaking out in 2007, he still had basically seventeen more seasons of elite QB play lol