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Join Date: Jan 2009
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*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
IT ****ING HAPPENED
OP UPDATE: Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! Last edited by Dante84; 05-17-2017 at 09:40 AM.. |
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World's Best Boss
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
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Does your QB take a lot of sacks? Well, it's because he's a pocket passer, you see, and that means he processes the field better. Reminds me of the dingus morons who still argue that Kittle is a better TE than Kelce because of his blocking. When they bring it up, they usually imply that because Kelce lines up all over the formation more often than Kittle, he's incapable or a weak blocker. That's false as ****. Kelce is probably a top 10 blocker as a TE. He just does it less often directly off the line of scrimmage. It's even worse in the case of Burrow because there is zero ****ing way Burrow processes better than Mahomes. At least you can argue that Kittle actually is a better blocker than Kelce, but the problem is people act like the blocking is the great equalizer. It's not. It's ****ing blocking. You go ahead and take the slightly better blocker. I'll take the guy who's totally ****ing unguardable. And I didn't even bring up injuries. Mahomes figured out the Eagles were coming on a 0 blitz so quickly that he beat Andy to the punch to call timeout when the formation was incorrect on the Skyy Moore TD. That's in spite of the Eagles running 0 blitzes the least often in the NFL that season. Mahomes knew the formation was wrong, QUICKLY processed what the coverage was going to be, and went for it anyway in a matter of seconds. "Well, Burrow could totally do that, too!" Oh? I really ****ing doubt that. |
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: World Boxing Champs
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Pat’s football intelligence has often been underrated. Hilarious considering he’s the top passer in the NFL since 2018, and the leagues best and most successful player since then. Only Brady ties him in ring count, yet Brady doesn’t have the MVPs to go with it. Rodgers ties him in MVPs, but doesn’t even have a SB appearance I’ve never in my life seen a clear #1 QB over the whole NFL like this. Maybe Brady in 2017, but that was short lived because of the emergence of Mahomes in 2018 |
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Atleast Tom cashed in. Burrow hasn’t |
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
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What’s even crazier to me is that Mahomes, even at peak weapon capacity, didn’t have weapons like Higgins and Chase, who you could just toss it up to and be bailed out by. “**** it, Tyreek down there somewhere” is the closest thing to that, and that doesn’t involve heaving or a covered guy and letting him climb the ladder to make a play. It was just heaving the ball so far into open space Hill was the only guy who could get there. It’s easy to “trust your receivers to get open” when they commit offensive PI on basically every play (Chase) and can high-point like he and Higgins can. |
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I love your mom
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Sturgeon Falls, Ontario
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Pre snap he is one of the best , I think Manning was the best ever but post snap on the fly adjustments he is the best I have ever seen his “feel” for the game is what makes him indefensible. What he does better than anyone can’t be coached and can’t be dumbed down for average players to learn , it is why guys like Gretzky where horrible coaches nobody could see/understand the game at that same level it’s like he was trying to teach reeruns chess. There might not be many players ever than even understand what make Pat so great let alone the ****ing reeruns in the media who never played. Last edited by Monticore; 04-11-2023 at 04:36 AM.. |
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: North da River
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That dipshit comochiefsfan was leading the charge shitting all over Pat, who else?? |
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'Tis my eye!
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
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I haven't seen this angle discussed really so I thought I would repeat a thought about Palmer's comments here...
The other thing is that in talking about Burrow, he didn’t even try to hide the “system QB” stuff. He gave credit to Burrow (and criticized Mahomes implicitly) for playing within the offense and not improvising. The thing is, we as long term fans aren’t stupid. The whole “system” argument is used to prop up guys that aren’t good enough to carry their team to a championship. If anything, he’s actually denigrating Burrow and apparently doesn’t realize it. |
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
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It's just different is all. There are the guys who are amazing within the offense, like Montana, or Brady. Then there are guys who are also freak athletes, like Favre, Young, Rodgers, and Mahomes. It's just different. Some guys, especially coaches, might prefer the 'system' guy, because they want repeatable, explainable results. This is why a Jimmy Johnson would rather have a Herbert than a Mahomes. Yeah, I agree, that's re-runned. |
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