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09-09-2003, 10:55 AM

to invade Kansas City, so get ready to see the best team in the AFC...

The Steelers are loaded on offense and basically have all of the skilled players a team can have. Plaxico Burress, Hines Ward, Randle El, Jay Riemersma, Amos, Bettis, Haynes, and don't forget about Tommy. We have one hell of a potent offense and can run and pass very well. Also, our O-line is developing nicely and is very strong up the middle...

Our defense is much improved after last year and our guys now have a chip on their shoulders. Our defensive backfield is improved with Mike Logan stepping in for the slower, departed, Lee Flowers. Chad Scott is healthy and Washington is playing more aggressively and making plays. Yes, he did have 2 pass interference penalties that totaled over 60+ yards, but I liked his improved play. Our LBs are the best in the business with the likes of Kendrell Bell, Jason Gildon, and James Farrior. With Porter out, Clark Haggans is no slouch. Also our defensive front is very underrated and can not only stop the run but can pressure the QB...

Special teams is probably the weakest link to the team but our punter and kicker are strong. We didn't do as well as we should have last week with this unit, but for the most part, we improved as the game went on...

I saw the great plays that the Chiefs had against hapless Chargers, a team that really folded down the stretch last year, nonetheless, though, you guys got a divisional win and those are always important...

Priest Holmes, a former Raven, knows exactly what the Steelers bring to the game. Morton looks good and your QB play is impressive with Trent Green. Dicky V is one of the best coaches in the NFL...

The Steelers are going to come into your house and look to notch up a big win. Can the Chiefs hang with one of the new powerhouse teams in the AFC?

It should be a great game and a meaningful one, since it could have playoff implications down the stretch...

HERE WE GO STEE-LERS, HERE WE GO!

CF

"Crime Does Not Pay"

TRR · 09-09-2003, 11:34 AM

Never did I say anywhere in my reply that this was the same type of team like Cowher had in his early years.

DaWolf · 09-09-2003, 11:37 AM

I'm not a Cowher fan either but he's a good coach. I prefer that he not be my team's coach, but he's a good coach...

htismaqe · 09-09-2003, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team RamRod

I could not stand being a Steelers fan. You know exactly what your getting from them every single season. You get a solid team that plays tough D and for the most part, mistake free O. You would know as a Steelers fan, that your team is playoff caliber, barring injuries, but in the back of your mind, you also know that you aren't getting to the big one either. I would rather a team not make the playoffs than consistently lose again, and again, and again in the playoffs year after year.

I couldn't take it. There's no mystery involved with the Steelers.

Gee, I wonder where that came from...Cowher is a chip off the ole' block...just like Daddy Shittenheimer...

HoustonChiefFan · 09-09-2003, 11:41 AM

I'm not really worried about a team that lost to the Texans at home last year.

Sorry, just practicing my smack talking.

I think it'll be a shootout to the third quarter, at which time the Steelers will run out of bullets.

The_Grand_Illusion · 09-09-2003, 11:56 AM

Two quality teams going at it this week. I think it will come down to the ground game and who stops the run better. The Chiefs D did a great job against LT last week. Hopefully they will continue to do a good job this week too.

You better hope the Steelers D has improved against the run since their last meeting with Priest two years ago. IIRC, he had 150 yards rushing in that game. I believe the Chiefs running game and offensive line is a more cohesive unit since two years ago. The all around offense has improved alot since then too. Priest has had good games against your D as a Chief and Raven. If your D can stop Priest, I see a very close game. If Priest has a big day, it keeps your potent air attack off the field and I give a big edge to the Chiefs.

TGI

SanDiegoSteeler · 09-09-2003, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team RamRod

I could not stand being a Steelers fan. You know exactly what your getting from them every single season. You get a solid team that plays tough D and for the most part, mistake free O. You would know as a Steelers fan, that your team is playoff caliber, barring injuries, but in the back of your mind, you also know that you aren't getting to the big one either. I would rather a team not make the playoffs than consistently lose again, and again, and again in the playoffs year after year.

I couldn't take it. There's no mystery involved with the Steelers.

I can understand

fan. When December rolls around you have your Sundays available for getting that Christmas shopping done. I envy you.

You guys are riding high after beating a rebuilding SD team. Nice offense. Let's see what happens when you have to face a "playoff caliber" team.
Our D is a "bit tougher this year" and our O is a "bit more mysterious". Oh and by the way‚ I rather enjoy being a Pittsburgh Steeler fan.

09-09-2003, 12:29 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when was the last time the Chiefs made it to the playoffs? You beat a lowly Charger team and all of a sudden you believe that you are Super Bowl bound? The Steelers lost to the Titans last year and it was a close game. Yes we came up on the short end of the stick but we picked up where we left off of last year. Plus, this team is experienced enough to not only get to the Super Bowl, but win it...

Tampa Bay felt how good we were becoming last year when we went to their house and kicked their tails...

I'm not saying that the Chiefs are not a good team, especially with the weapon you have in Holmes but remember that we know him well from his days with the Ravens. Holmes is a real playmaker but teams don't run the ball against the Steelers. THAT IS A FACT! Trent Green is going to have to beat us with his arm and that opens him up to serious pressure from our D. Plus, Trent Green hasn't taken the team anywhere so I'm too worried about him at this point...

No more Kordell to srew up games for the Steelers and Chicago has to deal with him now. The Steelers have Tommy Maddox, a guy that can stretch the field with all of his weapons. Tommy is going to show you why the Steelers are the best team in the AFC. HE'S NO FLUKE!

And never, ever underestimate Cowher. He's made improvements on the Steelers and the Rooneys kept him around because he is one of the best in the business. He makes the necessary adjustments based on his talent available...

We are now a passing team first but always run the football well. The Ravens have a good run defense with Ray Lewis, Peter Boulware, and their rookie, Suggs, but they were weak ini pass defense...

The Chiefs better protect Green and execute to perfection if they have a shot at beating the Steelers...

HERE WE GO STEE-LERS, HERE WE GO!

CF

"Crime Does Not Pay"

SanDiegoSteeler · 09-09-2003, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Grand_Illusion

Two quality teams going at it this week. I think it will come down to the ground game and who stops the run better. The Chiefs D did a great job against LT last week. Hopefully they will continue to do a good job this week too.

You better hope the Steelers D has improved against the run since their last meeting with Priest two years ago. IIRC, he had 150 yards rushing in that game. I believe the Chiefs running game and offensive line is a more cohesive unit since two years ago. The all around offense has improved alot since then too. Priest has had good games against your D as a Chief and Raven. If your D can stop Priest, I see a very close game. If Priest has a big day, it keeps your potent air attack off the field and I give a big edge to the Chiefs.

TGI

Priest is a Great back and an all around Great guy. Don't think anyone can "stop" him. He'll get his yards but Steelers have the speed to contain him.
I agree key will be who can keep the other teams offense off the field the longest. You guys seem to think we have forgotten how to run. Our O line wasn't set until late in preseason. Generally run game takes a bit longer to come around. Steelers run game will continue to improve as season progresses. This week‚ we attempt to see if its up to par yet. I have seen flashes. We can play barn burner game too these days. Although exciting‚ that would favor your team.
If we can establish the run we win comfortably. If we can't‚ it's whoever has the ball last.

HC_Chief · 09-09-2003, 12:34 PM

Holmes ran all over your ass last time you faced him (20 carries, 150yds)

and don't give me any of that 'yeah, but we won' crap - we have a completely revamped receiver corps since that game and a QB who has two solid legs under him.

You fools are walking into the jaws of the beast, baby. Top scoring O of last season and no signs of slowing down. Uh-oh, looks like we've now got a defense too

KCTitus · 09-09-2003, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crime Fighter

...The Chiefs better protect Green and execute to perfection if they have a shot at beating the Steelers...

Cake.

KCTitus · 09-09-2003, 12:36 PM

FTR, KC hasnt been in the playoffs since 1997--that's long enough ago that that smack line is about as weak as it gets.

Find something new, squealer fans.

**morphius** · 09-09-2003, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteeler

I can understand

fan. When December rolls around you have your Sundays available for getting that Christmas shopping done. I envy you.

You guys are riding high after beating a rebuilding SD team. Nice offense. Let's see what happens when you have to face a "playoff caliber" team.
Our D is a "bit tougher this year" and our O is a "bit more mysterious". Oh and by the way‚ I rather enjoy being a Pittsburgh Steeler fan.

I guess I'm going to need more proof that your D is much better then last year then a win against the consistenly offensively challanged Ravens. I mean, stuffing an offense that was only better then Houston, Carolina, Dallas, Chicago, Detriot and Arizona last year would not cause me to dance in the streets. Remember, you are facing the best OL in the league, and the number one scoring offense last year, and everyone is healthy and back.

The Steelers will be a good challange for our D, we did a great job last week against a team that lives off of the number 2 RB in the league last year (yards wise), now we have to see how our pass D can hold up against a team with some quality receivers. It will be a good measuring stick as to where our D is going to end up this year.

This should be a good measuring stick early in the season for both teams to see if they have improved enough.

**Bob Dole** · 09-09-2003, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteeler

You guys are riding high after beating a rebuilding SD team. Nice offense. Let's see what happens when you have to face a "playoff caliber" team.

Bob Dole is really enjoying how quickly San Diego went from a highly touted offensive powerhouse with a good-but-young defense, to a "rebuilding team" in a little more than 3 hours...

Keep doubting the Chiefs, Squeeler fans. Bob Dole sure hopes your players are as foolhardy.

HC_Chief · 09-09-2003, 12:38 PM

What's REALLY funny is they go from bagging on SD's O to pounding their chest about shutting out a ROOKIE QB-LED Ravens squad

"um, well you guys didn't beat nobody...... but WE did! yeah, that's it! derrrr"
lol

Chief Faithful · 09-09-2003, 12:39 PM

It is hard for me to talk smack with the Steelers for three reasons; I like the Steelers, they are not in the AFC West, and they are a good team.

Although I like the Steelers, the Chiefs have had relative success at home against them with Chiefs teams that are only half as capable as this years team.

The Steelers are going to have their hands full against the Chiefs OLine simply because they are the best, barr none. They can drive and pass block equally well. One good way to attach a 3-4 defense is to smash it right up the middle. With players like Shields, Waters and Richardson there will be room for Holmes to run. This will open up play action that result in a number of big plays.

There is no doubt the Chiefs have the tools, experience and talent to score on the Steelers. The key to this game is how well the Chiefs defense can stop Maddox. This is where home field will pay dividends. The crowd is going to be rocking in the loudest stadium in the NFL. The Red Horde up front are going to be creating havoc. The Steelers OLine is going to have to be on the top of their game to keep Maddox from getting hammered.

I don't think the Steelers run game is going to help. Once the run is stuffed the play action will not help. This means a dink dunk game. Barber and Fujita need to be ready.

09-09-2003, 10:55 AM
Crime Fighter - Pillow Biter Guest	Steel Men Are Coming... to invade Kansas City, so get ready to see the best team in the AFC... The Steelers are loaded on offense and basically have all of the skilled players a team can have. Plaxico Burress, Hines Ward, Randle El, Jay Riemersma, Amos, Bettis, Haynes, and don't forget about Tommy. We have one hell of a potent offense and can run and pass very well. Also, our O-line is developing nicely and is very strong up the middle... Our defense is much improved after last year and our guys now have a chip on their shoulders. Our defensive backfield is improved with Mike Logan stepping in for the slower, departed, Lee Flowers. Chad Scott is healthy and Washington is playing more aggressively and making plays. Yes, he did have 2 pass interference penalties that totaled over 60+ yards, but I liked his improved play. Our LBs are the best in the business with the likes of Kendrell Bell, Jason Gildon, and James Farrior. With Porter out, Clark Haggans is no slouch. Also our defensive front is very underrated and can not only stop the run but can pressure the QB... Special teams is probably the weakest link to the team but our punter and kicker are strong. We didn't do as well as we should have last week with this unit, but for the most part, we improved as the game went on... I saw the great plays that the Chiefs had against hapless Chargers, a team that really folded down the stretch last year, nonetheless, though, you guys got a divisional win and those are always important... Priest Holmes, a former Raven, knows exactly what the Steelers bring to the game. Morton looks good and your QB play is impressive with Trent Green. Dicky V is one of the best coaches in the NFL... The Steelers are going to come into your house and look to notch up a big win. Can the Chiefs hang with one of the new powerhouse teams in the AFC? It should be a great game and a meaningful one, since it could have playoff implications down the stretch... HERE WE GO STEE-LERS, HERE WE GO! CF "Crime Does Not Pay"
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09-09-2003, 11:34 AM	#16
TRR The Priest and I TRR's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO	Never did I say anywhere in my reply that this was the same type of team like Cowher had in his early years.
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09-09-2003, 11:37 AM	#17
DaWolf Cry havoc... DaWolf's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000	I'm not a Cowher fan either but he's a good coach. I prefer that he not be my team's coach, but he's a good coach...
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09-09-2003, 11:41 AM	#19
HoustonChiefFan Rookie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Houston	I'm not really worried about a team that lost to the Texans at home last year. Sorry, just practicing my smack talking. I think it'll be a shootout to the third quarter, at which time the Steelers will run out of bullets.
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09-09-2003, 11:56 AM	#20
The_Grand_Illusion Veteran The_Grand_Illusion's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Ad Astra Per Aspera	Two quality teams going at it this week. I think it will come down to the ground game and who stops the run better. The Chiefs D did a great job against LT last week. Hopefully they will continue to do a good job this week too. You better hope the Steelers D has improved against the run since their last meeting with Priest two years ago. IIRC, he had 150 yards rushing in that game. I believe the Chiefs running game and offensive line is a more cohesive unit since two years ago. The all around offense has improved alot since then too. Priest has had good games against your D as a Chief and Raven. If your D can stop Priest, I see a very close game. If Priest has a big day, it keeps your potent air attack off the field and I give a big edge to the Chiefs. TGI
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09-09-2003, 12:29 PM	#22
Crime Fighter - Pillow Biter Guest	Correct me if I'm wrong, but when was the last time the Chiefs made it to the playoffs? You beat a lowly Charger team and all of a sudden you believe that you are Super Bowl bound? The Steelers lost to the Titans last year and it was a close game. Yes we came up on the short end of the stick but we picked up where we left off of last year. Plus, this team is experienced enough to not only get to the Super Bowl, but win it... Tampa Bay felt how good we were becoming last year when we went to their house and kicked their tails... I'm not saying that the Chiefs are not a good team, especially with the weapon you have in Holmes but remember that we know him well from his days with the Ravens. Holmes is a real playmaker but teams don't run the ball against the Steelers. THAT IS A FACT! Trent Green is going to have to beat us with his arm and that opens him up to serious pressure from our D. Plus, Trent Green hasn't taken the team anywhere so I'm too worried about him at this point... No more Kordell to srew up games for the Steelers and Chicago has to deal with him now. The Steelers have Tommy Maddox, a guy that can stretch the field with all of his weapons. Tommy is going to show you why the Steelers are the best team in the AFC. HE'S NO FLUKE! And never, ever underestimate Cowher. He's made improvements on the Steelers and the Rooneys kept him around because he is one of the best in the business. He makes the necessary adjustments based on his talent available... We are now a passing team first but always run the football well. The Ravens have a good run defense with Ray Lewis, Peter Boulware, and their rookie, Suggs, but they were weak ini pass defense... The Chiefs better protect Green and execute to perfection if they have a shot at beating the Steelers... HERE WE GO STEE-LERS, HERE WE GO! CF "Crime Does Not Pay"
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09-09-2003, 12:34 PM	#24
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid HC_Chief's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia	Holmes ran all over your ass last time you faced him (20 carries, 150yds) and don't give me any of that 'yeah, but we won' crap - we have a completely revamped receiver corps since that game and a QB who has two solid legs under him. You fools are walking into the jaws of the beast, baby. Top scoring O of last season and no signs of slowing down. Uh-oh, looks like we've now got a defense too
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09-09-2003, 12:36 PM	#26
KCTitus Archivist KCTitus's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Ethernet	FTR, KC hasnt been in the playoffs since 1997--that's long enough ago that that smack line is about as weak as it gets. Find something new, squealer fans.
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09-09-2003, 12:38 PM	#29
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid HC_Chief's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia	What's REALLY funny is they go from bagging on SD's O to pounding their chest about shutting out a ROOKIE QB-LED Ravens squad "um, well you guys didn't beat nobody...... but WE did! yeah, that's it! derrrr" lol
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09-09-2003, 12:39 PM	#30
Chief Faithful Predicting Chiefs Victory Chief Faithful's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2001	It is hard for me to talk smack with the Steelers for three reasons; I like the Steelers, they are not in the AFC West, and they are a good team. Although I like the Steelers, the Chiefs have had relative success at home against them with Chiefs teams that are only half as capable as this years team. The Steelers are going to have their hands full against the Chiefs OLine simply because they are the best, barr none. They can drive and pass block equally well. One good way to attach a 3-4 defense is to smash it right up the middle. With players like Shields, Waters and Richardson there will be room for Holmes to run. This will open up play action that result in a number of big plays. There is no doubt the Chiefs have the tools, experience and talent to score on the Steelers. The key to this game is how well the Chiefs defense can stop Maddox. This is where home field will pay dividends. The crowd is going to be rocking in the loudest stadium in the NFL. The Red Horde up front are going to be creating havoc. The Steelers OLine is going to have to be on the top of their game to keep Maddox from getting hammered. I don't think the Steelers run game is going to help. Once the run is stuffed the play action will not help. This means a dink dunk game. Barber and Fujita need to be ready.
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