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#271 |
Andy Reid Supporter
Join Date: Apr 2012
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I see Veach as a young GM who can identify talent but being a younger guy growing into the role. His drafts have progressively gotten better over time. I really do think this years draft is his best work + the trade for Orlando Brown on top of it.
I would caution people to simply understand expectations. Dorsey was a shit drafter after the first rd in Cleveland. Ballard has been extremely underwhelming when you take out the obvious Quinten Nelson top 10 pick. John Schneider was a God in Seattle when they drafted Russell Wilson and now look at him? Both GM’s in GB have had the shine rust off big time. It’s really hard to win in this league guys. Even with an elite QB. You guys keep pointing back to Dorsey for previous success, but I think it wasn’t just him. We had an amazing team scouting for us. Dorsey, Andy, Ballard and Veach all working together. The GM is kind of like the QB. They can be really good but won’t be successful unless their team is good. |
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#272 | |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Oct 2007
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The problem isn’t that Clark wasn’t THAT good in Seattle, the problem is that he wasn’t THAT good anymore. And you continue to point to reactions that don’t necessarily have anything to do with how good Clark was at the time. Holy shit you’re a special kind of stupid. |
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#273 |
Andy Reid Supporter
Join Date: Apr 2012
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Perfect example is Mahomes.
Veach found him, pushed him on Andy. Ballard and Dorsey both watched him and shared analysis. Dorsey executed a great trade. Andy also had to have had something to do with that trade too as McDermott worked for him for years in Philly. They had to have talked about the trade as well. Andy verified Patrick on the private visit. Again, this is a team effort like all things in this league |
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#274 | |
Best Body On ChiefsPlanet
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Sorry if I'm not ecstatic about what Veach has done since he has been here. What's our run D ranked again? |
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#275 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Yea, we all know even winning a SB and going to another isn’t enough for miserable ****s like yourself. What our run d is ranked 3 weeks into this season clearly outweighs that!
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#276 | |
Best Body On ChiefsPlanet
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Once again, look in the mirror. |
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#277 | |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Calling morons like yourself morons doesn’t equal crying. You can’t give me shit for being a “homer”, which is essentially just being the voice of optimism, then try and call me miserable at the same time. Miserable people aren’t optimistic/positive. It doesn’t even make sense. |
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#278 | |
Three-Pat
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Colorado Springs
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No one is giving him excuses, the Clark move didn't turn out long term as planned, but to say he is average as a GM or not good because players like Clark underperformed and Veach somehow didn't know this years prior like he is some sort of Miss Cleo is just hating on the guy. That is what you are currently doing. |
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#279 |
Three-Pat
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Colorado Springs
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I asked earlier who is better and why? What's preventing you from answering said question besides the obvious?
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#281 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Oct 2007
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#283 |
You gotta kill a few people
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Yeah, he was instrumental during that run. IIRC he also had 5 sacks and I know from memory at least 3 of them came in the 4th quarters of those games. Plus he talked all that shit about stopping Derrick Henry and led the charge in backing up his shit talk and holding him to something like 70 yards.
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What do you think the fans and reporters and everyone else that didn't like the trade were reacting to? His "tape" showed a good player but not good enough to give up what we did for him. And that turned out to be true.
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#285 | |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Anyways, what you’re saying is the equivalent of saying that Khalil Mack wasn’t that good in Oakland because he hasn’t quite lived up to his contract and what the Bears gave up to get him. |
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