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Old 08-20-2024, 08:28 AM   #2
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What on earth makes you think they learned their lesson? Not like this isn’t the first series they didn’t have lessons to learn from. Sure they are admitting the show sucks but by no means does that mean they won’t keep making sucky shows with similar issues.
Correct.

There won't be a single leadership change over this thing which demonstrates pretty loudly that nothing has been learned.
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Old 08-20-2024, 11:05 AM   #3
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What on earth makes you think they learned their lesson? Not like this isn’t the first series they didn’t have lessons to learn from. Sure they are admitting the show sucks but by no means does that mean they won’t keep making sucky shows with similar issues.
I was convinced they were going to shit out another season of this despite the shitty reviews, simply because they were overconfident that they were right and the reviews were wrong. Which they've done in the past. I'm just glad that didn't happen.
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Old 08-20-2024, 12:36 PM   #4
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I was convinced they were going to shit out another season of this despite the shitty reviews, simply because they were overconfident that they were right and the reviews were wrong. Which they've done in the past. I'm just glad that didn't happen.

Okay that does make sense from that perspective of them not digging in further as they’ve done prior. I definitely have doubts that they’ll apply the lessons they should for why this one was so bad to future projects though.
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Old 08-20-2024, 06:43 AM   #6
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Good. **** everything about that shitty series. Glad they learned their lesson.
Time will tell if they've learned lessons. They had to learn a lot of lessons prior to this ****fest. They should have learned the lessons prior to making this.
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Inevitable, it was a complete disaster.

Still a bit hard to believe they even released it when they had to know it would only damage the IP, but I guess they spent so much on it by the time of post-production they almost had to.
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Inevitable, it was a complete disaster.

Still a bit hard to believe they even released it when they had to know it would only damage the IP, but I guess they spent so much on it by the time of post-production they almost had to.
They could have sat on it, told the actors and actresses to shut the **** up about it, and released it down the road without fanfare.
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Comparing this pile of shit to one of the greatest shows ever is very, very stupid.
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I thought it was kind of boring, but I really can't understand the uproar over this. They wanted a matriarchal society as background for the twins, but spared us the subservient men. That is a good choice.

I think it was pretty forgettable and I can't remember any other places that might be considered shoving lesbian agenda down anyone's throat.

There are clearly story problems with what is basically just a cop drama, but if you want to tell that well the cops have to be good partners, or have conflict of their own that isn't a secret, or anything interesting. It was very much a gamble to save the conflict until the end and now that it is canceled, there won't ever be character development for them to build on.

It's a mess because it assumed a second season would happen I think, and instead of ensuring a great first season, they held back the good stuff.

I was interested in it because I really like Russian Doll, but everyone should make every season like it is the last from now on because it probably is.
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I was interested in it because I really like Russian Doll, but everyone should make every season like it is the last from now on because it probably is.
You see, the difference between this and Russian Doll is that Russian Doll didn't suck ass.

I mean, the second season was pretty useless. By the first season at least was fantastic. And Nadia was essentially the same kind of character Natasha Lyonne always plays so I'm guessing she was the driver behind most of the creative decisions.

I feel like Leslye Headland probably just sucks at her job.
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You see, the difference between this and Russian Doll is that Russian Doll didn't suck ass.

I mean, the second season was pretty useless. By the first season at least was fantastic. And Nadia was essentially the same kind of character Natasha Lyonne always plays so I'm guessing she was the driver behind most of the creative decisions.

I feel like Leslye Headland probably just sucks at her job.

And that’s the issue.

There are actually a lot of elements that are really cool if you’re just outlining the events of season 1.

Coven of Force witches who created a vergence the Force and a pair of Force sensitive twins? That’s interesting.

Conflict between well-meaning Jedi and that Coven, driven by misunderstandings, Jedi arrogance? I mean, tragedy is one of the oldest art forms, people.

A failed Jedi who walked away and is just living normally until sucked back in by a mysterious murder trend of the Jedi who brought her into the Order after the tragedy? Cool.

A Sith apprentice in the Rule of Two trying to find his Acolyte and stumbling across one of those vergent twins? Yeah, that can rock. Especially if Darth Plagueis is his master and the whole connection to creating life with the Force is being shown and played out.

If you’re sitting down to mind map this story and those are your big events, there is just so goddamn much to work with.

But it didn’t come together. When you have cool general concepts and they’re just not well-executed, that’s on the director and the writing team (which really falls on the director because they’re the one that signs off on the writing).
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