MNF Week 2 - Falcons @ Eagles

[Easy 6]

Hooo lawdy, this could become a Benny Hill level comedy romp in a hurry

Not sure what to think about Atlanta, they kinda look like a hot mess with some genuine talent sprinkled in, and a completely unproven OC thrust into the big chair

Did anyone else see the opening of Countdown? some big fat dude and Jason Kelce did a chest bump onstage and fatty limped off badly afterward

[Pepe Silvia]

The Falcons suck. I bet Cousins gets a big injury again.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Wow, Eagles are my Super Bowl pick for the NFC. I figured they'd rekindle their old magic but they can't even beat the Falcons lol.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

That's the first time I've ever seen Cousins come thru in a clutch situation...it was kind of alarming.

I guess if you play long enough...it eventually has to happen.

He had a couple of nice throws, but horrible, weak prevent D by Eagles.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by wazu

Absolutely agree with ALL of this! Analytics, if they work, have GOT to be team specific. Any idea that there is some all-purpose chart that answers the question is stupid. The play call also matters immensely.

They can't even be team specific.

They have to be DRIVE specific. Which is to say, they don't exist.

Analytics is an effort at using large numbers to make your decision. You can't do that on a drive by drive basis.

And on that specific drive, there was just no reason to believe we were getting that ball in.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I’ll take going for it at the 1 with Mahomes myself. Analytics aren’t needed to figure that out.

I'll take winning the game over dogmatic adherence to theory in a sport that simply doesn't allow for it.

But your mileage may vary.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

Wow, Eagles are my Super Bowl pick for the NFC. I figured they'd rekindle their old magic but they can't even beat the Falcons lol.

OMG! They lost?
I turned off the game when they got that last first down with 2 minutes to go.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'll take winning the game over dogmatic adherence to theory in a sport that simply doesn't allow for it.

But your mileage may vary.

Ken pom boy will never understand

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'll take winning the game over dogmatic adherence to theory in a sport that simply doesn't allow for it.

But your mileage may vary.

The odds of winning the game increase by letting Mahomes go for it at the 1 there. Shouldn’t need analytics to tell you that much either but he’s quite likely to get it (and even if he doesn’t you’ve pinned the Bengals at the 1 and will likely be in great field position to score on the following drive).

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni

Ken pom boy will never understand

About kicking field goals on the 1 in the first quarter of a 3 point game? Yeah probably not.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

The odds of winning the game increase by letting Mahomes go for it at the 1 there. Shouldn’t need analytics to tell you that much either but he’s quite likely to get it (and even if he doesn’t you’ve pinned the Bengals at the 1 and will likely be in great field position to score on the following drive).

Yes - I know what the people on ESPN say.

I also know that we lost a playoff game with this 'logic'.

I know we saw the Eagles just lose a game because of it. And we've won multiple games by defying it the last several years.

No, nothing on that drive indicated we were 'quite likely' to get a score. Nor does pinning them mean much given that Mahomes threw the most boneheaded pick he's thrown in quite some time the next time he had the ball in his hands.

Again - you insist on operating in theory when we've seen what happens in practice over and over and over again on this very team. Context matters more than large numbers and the context is that even WITH Mahomes, we struggled like hell to move the ball all day. We've struggled in short yardage situations for a fairly long time.

You can't just say "Because Mahomes" and ignore what's happening on the field, no matter how badly you'd like to do so.