Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-05-2024, 02:46 PM  
SHOWTIME SHOWTIME is online now
Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2023
Aiyuk to the Steelers?

Seems to be a lot of buzz around the Steelers finalizing a trade for Aiyuk.






Last edited by SHOWTIME; 08-05-2024 at 02:52 PM..
Posts: 1,632
SHOWTIME has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 04:06 PM   #241
Megatron96 Megatron96 is online now
Suupraa Geniuuusss
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
If Aiyuk gets 30 more targets last season - still puts him outside the top 15 but more inline with what a lot of 'premier' WRs get - that would bring up him to 131 targets . At his catch rate, it adds 22 catches to his ledger. That then yields an additional 400 receiving yards based on his average Yards/Reception.

Suddenly the dude has 97 catches for 1,750 yards.

That's CeeDee Lamb's production on forty fewer targets.

There just weren't many guys as efficient as Brandon Aiyuk last season. Nico Collins as there. Cooper was close. Had Justin Jefferson stayed healthy he probably would've been.

I mean there's just nothing not to like about the kid under the hood. He doesn't have blazing deep speed but apart from that, he was a genuine stud last year.


Aiyuk’s Passer Rating when targeted the last three seasons: 118.5 (2021),116 (2022), 124.0 (2023).
Posts: 30,978
Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 04:10 PM   #242
ToxSocks ToxSocks is offline
Needs more middle fingers
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
Neither was, say, Andre Johnson.

Andre was 27 and in his 6th season when he finally had a year that was better than what Aiyuk did last season. And it took a TON of volume to get there.

Now I agree with you that a dynamic game-breaker has more value merely by virtue of having home run ball ability. That said, Aiyuk's ADOT was 14.3 - that is way the hell down there. I'm betting that's top 5 for anyone with 100 targets. He was no pure underneath player - he was getting a lot of balls on intermediate and deep plays last season.

Great Catch rate, super low drop rate, elite yards per route run (over 3 is top shelf shit). I mean by virtually any measure he was a damn stud last season.

This is a guy that got fewer targets than Jordan Addison, Tyler Lockett, Chris Godwin, Adam Thielen, Keenan Allen and a bunch of other dudes he was better than last season.

I wouldn't sleep on him. He's a lot better than you're giving him credit for, IMO. He's easily a top 10 WR and arguably belongs in the top 5. He was really really REALLY good.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
If Aiyuk gets 30 more targets last season - still puts him outside the top 15 but more inline with what a lot of 'premier' WRs get - that would bring up him to 131 targets . At his catch rate, it adds 22 catches to his ledger. That then yields an additional 400 receiving yards based on his average Yards/Reception.

Suddenly the dude has 97 catches for 1,750 yards.

That's CeeDee Lamb's production on forty fewer targets.

There just weren't many guys as efficient as Brandon Aiyuk last season. Nico Collins as there. Cooper was close. Had Justin Jefferson stayed healthy he probably would've been.

I mean there's just nothing not to like about the kid under the hood. He doesn't have blazing deep speed but apart from that, he was a genuine stud last year.
Fiiiiiiiiiiiine.....

Posts: 65,144
ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 04:15 PM   #243
New World Order New World Order is offline
Choco Favre
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
Neither was, say, Andre Johnson.

Andre was 27 and in his 6th season when he finally had a year that was better than what Aiyuk did last season. And it took a TON of volume to get there.

Now I agree with you that a dynamic game-breaker has more value merely by virtue of having home run ball ability. That said, Aiyuk's ADOT was 14.3 - that is way the hell down there. I'm betting that's top 5 for anyone with 100 targets. He was no pure underneath player - he was getting a lot of balls on intermediate and deep plays last season.

Great Catch rate, super low drop rate, elite yards per route run (over 3 is top shelf shit). I mean by virtually any measure he was a damn stud last season.

This is a guy that got fewer targets than Jordan Addison, Tyler Lockett, Chris Godwin, Adam Thielen, Keenan Allen and a bunch of other dudes he was better than last season.

I wouldn't sleep on him. He's a lot better than you're giving him credit for, IMO. He's easily a top 10 WR and arguably belongs in the top 5. He was really really REALLY good.
Andre Johnson played with David Carr though, who was pretty terrible, then later Matt Schaub.

I don't think anyone knows how good Brock Purdy is, he could be franchise or he could be just a game manager but he's good in Shanahan's offense. I'd take him over Carr or Schaub.
Posts: 29,824
New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 04:18 PM   #244
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Matt Schaub was a really solid pure passer when he had time and targets. He’s actually pretty close to Purdy, IMO.
Posts: 61,588
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 06:45 PM   #245
In58men In58men is offline
BIG ME
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 29,665
In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 07:05 PM   #246
seamonster seamonster is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by In58men View Post
Have a long-time work associate whose kid is a college QB and has gone to a lot of these NFL sponsored camps and knows some players around the league (through another venture). Have heard that the SF coaches and the SF front-office aren't on the same page. Receivers get traded (or drafted) to SF and wind up dealing with coaches that publicly despise them and act petty (Shannahan and his shills)...Now that Kyle won the power struggle and the lead guy for their front-office is out it's his show in SF. I personally think he gets humbled and drummed out of SF in three years (or less). Kyle Shannahan has no clue how to evaluate talent and hasn't worked his way up the ranks like his Dad.
Posts: 4,105
seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.
    Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 07:13 PM   #247
Frazod Frazod is offline
WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by In58men View Post
Kadarius Toney FTW!
Posts: 119,667
Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 3 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 07:25 PM   #248
staylor26 staylor26 is offline
In Search of a Life
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
It's weird how Aiyuk and Rice are almost identical in terms of size/measurables and yet Rice is a YAC machine like Deebo.

The thing is, I think Rice can be a much better route runner than Deebo, even though I don't think he will ever quite separate like Aiyuk.
Posts: 50,266
staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 10:15 PM   #249
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 View Post
It's weird how Aiyuk and Rice are almost identical in terms of size/measurables and yet Rice is a YAC machine like Deebo.

The thing is, I think Rice can be a much better route runner than Deebo, even though I don't think he will ever quite separate like Aiyuk.
Just give it time.

We used him in a very niche role last season. I think going forward he'll be used more like we used Sammy when he was healthy.

And while I think there may need to be some additional polishing of his technique (primarily footwork from what I can see), I think he'll eventually be an above average separator.

A guy that can pull away from angles like he can with the ball in his hands can absolutely get separation out of a break. It's not like he's a long-strider that's easy to read.

He has good compact strides and fast feet. I'd be surprised if he can't become more and more dangerous in the intermediate parts of the field. And sooner or later they WILL unleash him downfield where he can use that body control to simply take balls away like Higgins does.

I still maintain that he has genuinely elite body control. We just didn't see it put to use a lot last season. But when you remember stuff like that back shoulder catch he made against the Raiders (I think) deep in our own territory - that's the kind of stuff you have to be a bit special to do well.

And he is.
Posts: 61,588
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old Today, 07:45 AM   #250
Mosbonian Mosbonian is offline
On Hiatus
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazod View Post
Kadarius Toney FTW!
I say we trade Kadarius Toney and Skyy Moore to Pittsburgh for 2 cheeseburgers and a ham sandwich.

Pittsburgh can then package them to SF in a 2 receivers for one swap?
Posts: 11,507
Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old Today, 08:33 AM   #251
PatMahomesIsGod PatMahomesIsGod is offline
Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2024
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosbonian View Post
I say we trade Kadarius Toney and Skyy Moore to Pittsburgh for 2 cheeseburgers and a ham sandwich.

Pittsburgh can then package them to SF in a 2 receivers for one swap?
I’d trade Skyy for Pickens straight up…..
Posts: 378
PatMahomesIsGod is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.PatMahomesIsGod is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.PatMahomesIsGod is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.PatMahomesIsGod is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old Today, 02:42 PM   #252
RunKC RunKC is offline
Andy Reid Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
So he’s staying huh? This is what sucks about being a reporter. Rickey absolutely had the Steelers stuff right, but shit changed at the last minute and if he stays the trolls will say Rickey sucks and never knew anything

Posts: 46,838
RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old Today, 02:57 PM   #253
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC View Post
So he’s staying huh? This is what sucks about being a reporter. Rickey absolutely had the Steelers stuff right, but shit changed at the last minute and if he stays the trolls will say Rickey sucks and never knew anything

So then they gonna get out of Deebo's deal?

The 49ers have so many issues with money at this point.
Posts: 111,490
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old Today, 04:20 PM   #254
DRM08 DRM08 is offline
MVP
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Texas
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca View Post
So then they gonna get out of Deebo's deal?

The 49ers have so many issues with money at this point.
Just play the void year game like the Eagles have done with all of their contracts.
Posts: 17,193
DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.