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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kansas City
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Lesnar isn't the reason pay-per views are down. Thats just stupid in general. It's not like Lesnar not being in the UFC causes all the other cards to not be watched/bought. He was a good draw but he didn't make the entire year of pay-per views go up by himself. The UFC on Fox last card was great. The ratings were going up against the olympics so nobody expected them to blow it out of the water but it was one of the best cards i've seen. Your "solution" for what Dana should of done is ignorant. You don't just take a title fight off the card that was the main reason everyone was watching and just put two "company men" fighters on there and tell the fans "Well here you go, sorry". I can see why Jones didn't take the fight but I think he should have. He is where he is because of the UFC and the UFC has benefited from him too but all of the money the UFC lost on it and all the other fighters on the card lose out...I just wish he would of fought Sonnen. He had a scape goat anyway if he lost (which he shouldn't of) by his not being prepared for it and would of gotten an immediate rematch if somehow he did lose. Sonnen is a VERY good fighter but he isn't holding Jones down like he did to Anderson, no way. Jones is the champ and should welcome all challenegers. I seem to remember alot of people saying he didn't deserve the shot at Shogun when it happened. |
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#2462 |
Oh yeah..... you like that
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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All I can say is Jones is handling this situation very badly. I would stay away from key phrases such as "cross to bare" and other self pitying comments. Everyone messed up here. He needs to go away for a while and let this all die down. The fans and the UFC are the ones that got screwed on this deal. All the fighters were required to get paid. Atleast those people stuck flying in for the event still can have fun in Vegas. Imagine flying into columbus for an UFC event only to have it cancelled.
Sorry for the rant, but I was a really big supporter for Jones. Now with his 2 DUI's and this, I cant help but root against him. |
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#2463 |
lions=domination
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: san marcos,texas
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White is a POS.
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#2464 |
Oh yeah..... you like that
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Agreed. With the crappiness of UFC 149, you cannot convince me that the UFC cares about the quality of its cards. So that cannot be a reason to cancel this event. UFC needs to go back to the 1 PPV event a month model with a free events sprinkled in every once in a while. It has been a year atleast since I watched an even without fast forwarding through a fight that I did not care about.
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#2465 |
Mahomes Dynasty
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Parts Unknown
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Dana is the one that handled this incorrectly.
You don't bash you're #1 ranking P4P fighter and UFC cashcow because he doesn't want to take a fight on virtually ZERO notice, then blame an entire card's dismissal on the guy. Fight week is not a training week, because there are so many appearances etc, and a bunch of shit going on leading up to the fight, there's no time to train, let alone train for a top fighter in his respected class. Dana White could have easily switched the main event, he's done it in the past. Last edited by CoMoChief; 08-27-2012 at 02:21 PM.. |
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#2466 | |
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: East Jabip
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#2467 |
Rock Chalk!
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Topeka, KS
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The UFC cancelled the fight not Jones. White is being a baby. If you want to guarantee that a fighter has to accept a different fight put it in the contract. Jones had the right to refuse a different opponent. If the UFC doesn't like it they can rewrite the contract.
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#2468 |
Keep doubting J MFing Houston
Join Date: May 2007
Location: ft.lauderdale
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Holy Crap. I finally found this clip from the very first UFC TOURNAMENT.
Watch the teeth fly out of the ring. Edit: Can't see his teeth in that vid. Embedding disabled Dude's a straight up Nazi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc9zsHyDgps Last edited by beach tribe; 08-29-2012 at 12:33 PM.. |
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#2469 | |
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kansas City
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You are completely wrong about the main event. You don't just "Switch the main event". People bought tickets to see Jones, you don't just put anybody in there and act like it will make it all better. If I had tickets to that event and Jones got pulled and just some random fight was main event I would be MORE pissed, just give me a refund. |
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#2470 |
Caralho
Join Date: Sep 2011
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#2471 | |
Mahomes Dynasty
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Parts Unknown
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You don't go in with a gameplan against one fighter, scrap everything and fight a top fighter in the world on virtually no notice when a title belt and endorsement deals are on the line. At this level, if you're not prepared, not only do you lose, you get knocked the **** out. Bones' camp is 100000% right in this case. There's nothing wrong w/ Bones looking out for himself. |
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#2472 |
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: East Jabip
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#2473 |
Caralho
Join Date: Sep 2011
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#2474 |
Caralho
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Additionally, most professional fighters in a large org such as the UFC get paid for media appearances (interviews, podcast interviews, seminars, etc) and are also extremely well compensated in terms of "locker room bonuses", which are not disclosed to the public sans a fighter or mgmt (Dana, Lorenzo) talking about it.
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#2475 |
Caralho
Join Date: Sep 2011
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The first part also applies to fighters in Bellator, Strikeforce, M1, etc. on a regular basis. However, the majority of a fighter's income is not from base salary, but via sponsors. For example: fight shorts, hats, walkout gear (t-shrits, sweats, etc). As an example, if you look at Thiago Alves e Koscheck's trunks, they are covered with sponsors, from which they get paid.
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