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Old 04-29-2022, 06:44 PM  
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Old 12-23-2022, 02:51 PM   #2431
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I can't really buy into all the pessimism yet, limited snaps for rookie receivers is longstanding SOP for Andy Reid

To quote Aaron Rodgers... R-E-L-A-X
Here’s my issue with this.

Sure it’s a tough position to learn in this offense. But guys have come in early and done well.

Hardman put up numbers as a rookie. Maclin, jackson etc.

Skyy was a second round pick. If he needed that much time and development, maybe he was drafted too early?
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Old 12-23-2022, 02:51 PM   #2432
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I mean, what’s the definition of limited? Are we comparing him to randy moss? Or DRob? Or Edelman? I’d say he’s not Randy, or Metcalf, but he’s probably more athletic than Edelman. Certainly faster. I doubt Edelman ever jumped higher or had quicker feet.

Let’s have some kind of reference here at least. And a 5’10” too short to play WR in the NFL? Lot of former WRs would probably disagree.
Edelman/Welker is still the target.
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Old 12-23-2022, 02:58 PM   #2433
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Here’s my issue with this.

Sure it’s a tough position to learn in this offense. But guys have come in early and done well.

Hardman put up numbers as a rookie. Maclin, jackson etc.

Skyy was a second round pick. If he needed that much time and development, maybe he was drafted too early?
Impossible to judge if he was taken too early or not this early in his career.

I guess a fair way to judge that would be to go back through all 2nd round picks at WR over the last 10 years snd see how many were productive as rookies.

If I get bored, I just might do that.
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Old 12-23-2022, 03:00 PM   #2434
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Old 12-23-2022, 03:10 PM   #2435
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I mean, what’s the definition of limited? Are we comparing him to randy moss? Or DRob? Or Edelman? I’d say he’s not Randy, or Metcalf, but he’s probably more athletic than Edelman. Certainly faster. I doubt Edelman ever jumped higher or had quicker feet.

Let’s have some kind of reference here at least. And a 5’10” too short to play WR in the NFL? Lot of former WRs would probably disagree.
Edelman proday numbers:
40 Yard Dash: 4.52 seconds
40 Yard (MPH): 18.1 (MPH)
20 Yard Split: 2.58 seconds
10 Yard Split: 1.52 seconds
Bench Press: (N/A) reps (225 lb)
Vertical Leap: 36.5 inches
Height: 70.38 inches
Weight: 195 lbs
Broad Jump: 123 inches
Hand Size: (N/A) inches
Arm Length: (N/A) inches
20 Yd Shuttle: 3.92 seconds
Three Cone: 6.62 seconds


Skyy Moore combine numbers

40 Yard Dash: 4.41 seconds
40 Yard (MPH): 18.55 (MPH)
20 Yard Split: 2.51 seconds
10 Yard Split: 1.46 seconds
Bench Press: (N/A) reps (225 lb)
Wonderlic: (N/A) (0-50)
QB Ball Velocity: (N/A) (MPH)
Vertical Leap: 34.5 inches
Broad Jump: (N/A) inches
20 Yd Shuttle: 4.32 seconds
Three Cone: 7.13 seconds


So you can say Edelman is quicker and more explosive while Skyy is faster.
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Old 12-23-2022, 03:42 PM   #2436
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Edelman proday numbers:
40 Yard Dash: 4.52 seconds
40 Yard (MPH): 18.1 (MPH)
20 Yard Split: 2.58 seconds
10 Yard Split: 1.52 seconds
Bench Press: (N/A) reps (225 lb)
Vertical Leap: 36.5 inches
Height: 70.38 inches
Weight: 195 lbs
Broad Jump: 123 inches
Hand Size: (N/A) inches
Arm Length: (N/A) inches
20 Yd Shuttle: 3.92 seconds
Three Cone: 6.62 seconds


Skyy Moore combine numbers

40 Yard Dash: 4.41 seconds
40 Yard (MPH): 18.55 (MPH)
20 Yard Split: 2.51 seconds
10 Yard Split: 1.46 seconds
Bench Press: (N/A) reps (225 lb)
Wonderlic: (N/A) (0-50)
QB Ball Velocity: (N/A) (MPH)
Vertical Leap: 34.5 inches
Broad Jump: (N/A) inches
20 Yd Shuttle: 4.32 seconds
Three Cone: 7.13 seconds


So you can say Edelman is quicker and more explosive while Skyy is faster.
Skyy is a really good route runner. That makes a big difference in his poor 3 cone.

People made AB comparisons partially because of that. He wasn’t the fastest or laterally quick guys but his route running was the difference
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Old 12-23-2022, 03:46 PM   #2437
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Here’s my issue with this.

Sure it’s a tough position to learn in this offense. But guys have come in early and done well.

Hardman put up numbers as a rookie. Maclin, jackson etc.

Skyy was a second round pick. If he needed that much time and development, maybe he was drafted too early?
Was he drafted too early?

Thats a fair question I guess, but he has made several splash plays so far that render the extreme pessimism unwarranted IMO

And again, I have to go back to the fact that Reid typically makes it tough for rookies to get on the field much... Tyreek Hill aside

But Skyy isn't Reek, and very few guys are

I dunno man, we've seen him occasionally dazzle in a limited role... nice routes, nice wiggle, nice hands, nice burst

Thats enough to satisfy me for now, lets give him some slack
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Old 12-23-2022, 03:48 PM   #2438
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Edelman/Welker is still the target.
So the target of our 2nd round pick is to turn out like a 7th round pick and an UDFA, both of whom only found success in New England with Brady/Belichick? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not seeing many (if any) examples of that type of WR to find success under Andy Reid.
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Old 12-23-2022, 04:57 PM   #2439
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So the target of our 2nd round pick is to turn out like a 7th round pick and an UDFA, both of whom only found success in New England with Brady/Belichick? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not seeing many (if any) examples of that type of WR to find success under Andy Reid.
The target is the production, not the draft position of those players. I think you know that. Pretty much every team in the league for 2 decades was trying to target their first round qbs to turn out like a sixth round pick Tom Brady.
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Old 12-23-2022, 05:31 PM   #2440
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Was he drafted too early?

Thats a fair question I guess, but he has made several splash plays so far that render the extreme pessimism unwarranted IMO

And again, I have to go back to the fact that Reid typically makes it tough for rookies to get on the field much... Tyreek Hill aside

But Skyy isn't Reek, and very few guys are

I dunno man, we've seen him occasionally dazzle in a limited role... nice routes, nice wiggle, nice hands, nice burst

Thats enough to satisfy me for now, lets give him some slack
Skyy isnt even Hardman.
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Old 12-23-2022, 05:37 PM   #2441
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Old 12-23-2022, 05:38 PM   #2442
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I'd really like to revisit this thread...oh...about next October.

I have a feeling it'll be a laugh.
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Old 12-23-2022, 05:47 PM   #2443
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Skyy is a really good route runner. That makes a big difference in his poor 3 cone.

People made AB comparisons partially because of that. He wasn’t the fastest or laterally quick guys but his route running was the difference
I keep hearing that but hasn’t the knock been his poor route running a big reason for his lack of snaps/targets?
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Old 12-23-2022, 06:45 PM   #2444
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I'd really like to revisit this thread...oh...about next October.

I have a feeling it'll be a laugh.
How exactly?

Does him being good in his 2nd year in your fantasy somehow cancel out criticism of him being unproductive in his rookie year?
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Old 12-23-2022, 06:52 PM   #2445
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How exactly?

Does him being good in his 2nd year in your fantasy somehow cancel out criticism of him being unproductive in his rookie year?
Depends on which argument you pick in this thread. It definitely cancels out the arguments that it's a bad big or he is a bust. Wouldn't cancel out the arguments of being unproductive this year
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