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Old 09-15-2024, 07:15 PM  
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Are we worried about our offense?
Being only marginally better than last season? Worthy likely has a higher ceiling and more potential than Hardman but he is unlikely, at least for now, to be a 6-8 target a game guy as an option on the majority of passing plays. Rice is better than Rice last season so that's good. Kelce is probably worst though.

But mostly what I’m fearful about is that losing Brown is going to be a major impediment to the offense being noticeably better than last season. He was likely big in our schemes and philosophy. I know we typically struggle vs the Bengals but as of right now I'm not sure what would make me confident we dramatically improve over last season.

What does everyone think? How can we ensure the significant improvement over last season that it seems we might need?
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Old 09-19-2024, 09:12 AM   #211
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Yeah I’m really pissed off that Andy used Worthy like MVS running deep. He needs to be utilized in the middle of the field.

His speed needs to be utilized fully not just deep

This goes back to Brown. Reading through it seems like everything that would improve the offense is the area of the field and route concepts Brown would have been occupying.
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Old 09-19-2024, 09:14 AM   #212
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There's how you beat it.
Yea works great...until your protection sucks or you miss one and now it's 2 and 10 and all your first down plays don't work.

I think the reason teams aren't taking deep shots is because getting behind the chains is a death sentence against these defensive calls and for most teams a 40 yard in the air pass is a low percentage play.
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Old 09-19-2024, 09:18 AM   #213
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Yeah I’m really pissed off that Andy used Worthy like MVS running deep. He needs to be utilized in the middle of the field.

His speed needs to be utilized fully not just deep
Thankfully there's still time.

Both for Worthy to develop and for Reid to get the most out of him.
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Old 09-19-2024, 09:23 AM   #214
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Get Wiley down the seam. Seems like he was basically designed for that.
I'd like that just from the standpoint that it seems like the game is moving real quick for Wiley underneath.

Just let him go make a play once or twice to get some confidence.
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Old 09-19-2024, 09:24 AM   #215
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I haven't fired up any All-22 but I assumed Worthy's route tree would be very much the Mecole one where he is running deep crossers half the time. Haven't seen that yet, probably because of the schemes they have faced.
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Old 09-19-2024, 09:28 AM   #216
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His size is gonna make it tougher for him to play in the slot like that though. A Lb'er will be able to reroute him to Peculiar pretty quickly.
Not if they're playing deep as you suggested. And not if you have him playing off the LOS. A LBer is likely going to struggle to get hands on him at all.
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Old 09-19-2024, 10:07 AM   #217
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Definitely, I’m worried.
Mahomes can obviously play better and presumably will, but right now that’s a concern. In the first game, he missed two passes to running backs. He seems to be impatient. He is making bad judgement calls and throwing interceptions more than usual. Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t want any other QB. But his game needs to improve to be closer to what he normally does.

Andy needs to improve his playcalling. I don’t understand why it’s so much of a challenge for us to score when we’re inside the 10 yard line. we seem to stay vanilla. We always see Andy is one of our great strengths, but this year that hasn’t been the case.


Pacheco has been incredibly important to this team and it’s success. It remains to be seen how steel and hunt will make up for his absence.

Despite the brown injury, and the need for worthy to develop, I think WR room is definitely better than last year but not as much better as we had hoped. AND I EXPECT KELSEY TO RETURN TO FORM, BUT MAYBE OLD AGE HAS FINALLY HIT . WE WILL SEE.

If we have another bad game at LT, I think we need to bring in a veteran as a stopgap measure.

So there are a lot of concerns our offence. but we are still scoring points and winning games .

And even worse our defence is getting destroyed by TEs.

Thank goodness luck has been on our side as we have a toe and a flag to think for our 2-0 record. and luck it’s always important. So let’s hope it stays with us.

Hopefully, we finally have a decisive win against Atlanta.
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Old 09-19-2024, 10:14 AM   #218
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Oh hey look Zac Taylor utilizing 12 personnel to get matchup problems to TE’s exploiting the open space in zone coverage in cover 2







Love Andy to death but he was badly outcoached last Sunday. This is how we should be attacking cover 2
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Old 09-19-2024, 10:40 AM   #219
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They're not playing cover 2 though. Look at the CBs. They're not passing anything off.

Looks more like cover 4 which would be why they're killing us in that vacated zone.
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I haven't fired up any All-22 but I assumed Worthy's route tree would be very much the Mecole one where he is running deep crossers half the time. Haven't seen that yet, probably because of the schemes they have faced.
He ran a deep cross against BAL
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Old 09-19-2024, 10:45 AM   #221
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Don't discount that Andy and Spags like to hold stuff back and flip the script gameplan wise in the playoffs if they can

It's a proven formula that they're using every year at this point
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Old 09-19-2024, 04:18 PM   #223
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I think this is a good answer. Andy Reid offenses dont focus on these routes and Mahomes is not particularly good at throwing them. He usually throws the ball too low, too hard with not enough air under them which leads to not only an inaccurate throw but a throw that is difficult for a WR to fight for.
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Old 09-19-2024, 04:35 PM   #224
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I just think the Chiefs play better when it’s cold. Isn’t it still humid in KC?
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Old 09-19-2024, 06:49 PM   #225
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I just think the Chiefs play better when it’s cold. Isn’t it still humid in KC?
Have you seen Mahomes record and stats in domes?
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