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Old 09-11-2024, 11:15 AM   #2
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Allen is considered the 2nd best QB in the league because he plays Mahomes close in the playoffs.

So yeah, it seems that way.
Nah. Allen is considered 2nd best because his talent level pops off the screen when he's playing his best, and has literally carried that team.

No one says, "Well, Allen wouldn't be shit w/o those receivers..."
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Old 09-11-2024, 02:05 PM   #3
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Nah. Allen is considered 2nd best because his talent level pops off the screen when he's playing his best, and has literally carried that team.

No one says, "Well, Allen wouldn't be shit w/o those receivers..."
This is very accurate. The Buffalo weapons this year are awful bar a decent Tight End room.

No receiver in the top 50 in the league, best running back well outside the top 10 and while both Tight Ends are good neither of them is top 5 in the league. Allen is going to have to cook with even worse ingredients than Pat had last year.
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Old 09-11-2024, 11:12 AM   #4
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Burrow hasn't earned that.

Have we reached a point where beating Mahomes in the playoffs once gets you a lifetime pass? You stay in the 'top 5 QBs' lists because that thing you did that one time?

One season with MVP votes. One. Got badly outplayed by Jake Browning last season. Can't stay healthy. May simply not be physically sound (now or perhaps ever). And has NEVER performed without 2 premier pass-catchers in this lineup.

Why do we keep acting like it's verboten to question whether or not Joe Burrow is a truly premier QB and not just another average guy who's a product of his weapons?

It's silly. DJ Reader has a better track record relative to his position group. Chase certainly does. Higgins does. Shit, Mixon might have.

It's really ridiculous that people keep trying to keep him in the same tier as Mahomes. He's not on that level.
Burrow is still living of his Natty at LSU.
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Old 09-11-2024, 09:58 AM   #5
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That clip of Burrow on 3rd down at the end of the game that's been making the rounds; the most alarming part about it was Burrow dodging ghosts in the backfield.

To me, that's more worrisome than his passing charts or his wrist.

He's afraid to get hit. Likely protecting that wrist. That Oline + his injury are totally in his head.

People keep talking about him being unwilling to throw against single coverage. I think it was much more about his staring at the rush and never seeing the play develop downfield to begin with.
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Old 09-11-2024, 09:59 AM   #6
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That clip of Burrow on 3rd down at the end of the game that's been making the rounds; the most alarming part about it was Burrow dodging ghosts in the backfield.

To me, that's more worrisome than his passing charts or his wrist.

He's afraid to get hit. Likely protecting that wrist. That Oline + his injury are totally in his head.

People keep talking about him being unwilling to throw against single coverage. I think it was much more about his staring at the rush and never seeing the play develop downfield to begin with.
If you just watch his movement in the pocket on that play.....man i swear he looks ready to go fetal almost right away.
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Old 09-11-2024, 10:18 AM   #7
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Old 09-11-2024, 10:22 AM   #8
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Why do people on CP give the Bengals the same benefit of the doubt they do the Chiefs?

The Bengals haven't earned that. They start slow every year, we just haven't played them this early yet. So no, I'm not buying that they can just turn it on this week and be in their late season mode.
I think the important thing is that they do turn it around at some point and most expect the added motivation of playing us early on may give them the spark they need.
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Old 09-11-2024, 04:54 PM   #9
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I think the important thing is that they do turn it around at some point and most expect the added motivation of playing us early on may give them the spark they need.
I think they’re downplaying how much Patrick wants this game. Of course he wants to win every game. But I promise he’s tired of hearing how he’s got a losing record vs Joey Glass.

It’s also one of the reasons I hope we play the Lions in the SB. Patrick will hear for two weeks how he’s never beaten Goff. And he will take that shit PERSONALLY!
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Old 09-11-2024, 10:56 AM   #10
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Jake Browning looked every bit as good as Burrow last year. Their playmakers were just ridiculous and makes Burrow look better. I don’t think Burrow is bad by any means, but he is propped up and this year could be different.
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Old 09-11-2024, 10:59 AM   #11
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I think the important thing is that they do turn it around at some point and most expect the added motivation of playing us early on may give them the spark they need.
Higgins has a hamstring injury, Burrow is clearly not back to form yet, and Chase missed a lot of time holding out. Combine all that with the fact that their defense is now terrible, and they lost Mixon and Boyd in the offseason as well, and you have very little reason to think they can get this this turned around in one ****ing week.
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Always felt like it was a long-shot to get him back against Cincy. And we shouldn't really need him against Atlanta.

I've had the Chargers game circled for a bit now.
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Old 09-11-2024, 12:54 PM   #15
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Higgins has a hamstring injury, Burrow is clearly not back to form yet, and Chase missed a lot of time holding out. Combine all that with the fact that their defense is now terrible, and they lost Mixon and Boyd in the offseason as well, and you have very little reason to think they can get this this turned around in one ****ing week.
All the same, would you be surprised if they played us tight next week? I wouldn’t.
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