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Sofa King · 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

crispystl · 09-25-2023, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Is that where the stupid shit comes from?

No, it's just low IQ

MahomesMagic · 09-25-2023, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It's not that he isn't good either...he's option 4 or 5 and Lamar literally never gets that far into progressions.

I liked Bateman coming out

Could see Veach being interested as he was a high pick that never fit the team who drafted him.

JPH83 · 09-25-2023, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Everyone was talking about the Cardinals getting picks 1 and 2 - hell, what about the Bears?

The Cardinals have their pick and the Texans; both teams are 1-2. The Bears have their pick and the Panthers - both teams are 0-3. And both teams look just as bad as Arizona or Houston. In fact both might look worse (seriously, HOW did Carolina think Bryce Young was a good idea????)

The Bears rolling out Williams, Harrison Jr and DJ Moore next season would just be a hilarious juxtaposition from where they are this season.

Talking of Carolina...Shenault? Feels like a good Veach reclamation project. Was quietly decent last year, big-bodied YAC type was his college eval. Seems unlikely but i wouldn't hate it if they decided they can't get value from him playing and need to either burn it down or stack picks for weapons.

Mecca · 09-25-2023, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83

Talking of Carolina...Shenault? Feels like a good Veach reclamation project. Was quietly decent last year, big-bodied YAC type was his college eval. Seems unlikely but i wouldn't hate it if they decided they can't get value from him playing and need to either burn it down or stack picks for weapons.

Shenault is Codarelle Patterson v2, it's gonna take awhile but eventually some team will realize he isn't a real WR... just throw him screens some handoffs and he'll make some plays.

MahomesMagic · 09-25-2023, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Shenault is Codarelle Patterson v2, it's gonna take awhile but eventually some team will realize he isn't a real WR... just throw him screens some handoffs and he'll make some plays.

Yeah, don't like Shenault here.

And even though I like Bateman that isn't a move for this year.

We would need to bring in someone like a Hollywood if it was about adding firepower for the playoffs.

JPH83 · 09-25-2023, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Shenault is Codarelle Patterson v2, it's gonna take awhile but eventually some team will realize he isn't a real WR... just throw him screens some handoffs and he'll make some plays.

Honestly not sure I'd hate that...

Mecca · 09-25-2023, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83

Honestly not sure I'd hate that...

He'd be an great Edwards-Helaire role replacement...a few carries and targets a game...screen game, shovel passes etc.

RunKC · 09-25-2023, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Everyone was talking about the Cardinals getting picks 1 and 2 - hell, what about the Bears?

The Cardinals have their pick and the Texans; both teams are 1-2. The Bears have their pick and the Panthers - both teams are 0-3. And both teams look just as bad as Arizona or Houston. In fact both might look worse (seriously, HOW did Carolina think Bryce Young was a good idea????)

The Bears rolling out Williams, Harrison Jr and DJ Moore next season would just be a hilarious juxtaposition from where they are this season.

I would sacrifice losing to the Broncos once this year and missing out on HFA if it meant they get the 3rd pick and miss out on Williams/Maye

ToxSocks · 09-25-2023, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I would sacrifice losing to the Broncos once this year and missing out on HFA if it meant they get the 3rd pick and miss out on Williams/Maye

And ruin our streak against them? Naaaaaah.

DRM08 · 09-25-2023, 03:58 PM

Re-watching the game. At the very beginning, Erin Andrews said Mahomes told her that this might be the most talented offense surrounding him in his career. Seems like a really generous statement. He had a more explosive Travis Kelce, prime Tyreek Hill, prime Sammy Watkins, prime Kareem Hunt in 2018. His LT & RT were pretty great as well.

That being said, it was nice to see better chemistry between Mahomes and the younger receivers like Moore & Rice in this Chicago game. It's hard to read into it very much given they were playing against a really bad Chicago defense. The Jets defense will provide a much bigger challenge next weekend and it will be interesting to see if the Chiefs offense can put together a high quality performance.

**BossChief** · 09-25-2023, 04:56 PM

I wonder how much of the bridge is burnt for Mecole Hardman. He’s buried in NY.

Before the injury, he was actually looking pretty good. His contract is peanuts and he can take those jet screen snaps from Skyy/Toney and make them lethal again.

I’d take him from NY on a “swap of 2027 7th round conditional picks” type trade…but for Veach to have never even offered him a contract probably suggests he’s done here.

DRM08 · 09-25-2023, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I’d take Mecole Hardman from the Jets on a “swap of 2027 7th round conditional picks” type trade…but for Veach to have never even offered Hardman a contract probably suggests he’s done here.

What do you think might have caused that strategy on the Chiefs side of it?

**BossChief** · 09-25-2023, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08

What do you think might have caused that strategy on the Chiefs side of it?

I’ve talked to him a couple times and he immediately comes off as a stupid human. Mahomes gets frustrated with him because he quits on routes, goes oob to avoid contact, doesn’t adjust his route correctly based on coverages and until his last year here, was strictly a gadget player.

I think he could flourish in a limited role in KC doing things that play to his strengths, but likely had a stupid inflated self image when the 2 sides talked, leading him to have a limited FA market where he ended up taking a peanut contract.

Now that he’s humbled a bit, I could see him loving going back to his old role in KC…forcing teams to respect his speed.

It’s not going to happen, but I think it would be good for both sides to have the conversation. NY obviously has no need for him in this dead year.

DRM08 · 09-25-2023, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I’ve talked to him a couple times and he immediately comes off as a stupid human. Mahomes gets frustrated with him because he quits on routes, goes oob to avoid contact, doesn’t adjust his route correctly based on coverages and until his last year here, was strictly a gadget player.

I think he could flourish in a limited role in KC doing things that play to his strengths, but likely had a stupid inflated self image when the 2 sides talked, leading him to have a limited FA market where he ended up taking a peanut contract.

Now that he’s humbled a bit, I could see him loving going back to his old role in KC…forcing teams to respect his speed.

It’s not going to happen, but I think it would be good for both sides to have the conversation. NY obviously has no need for him in this dead year.

Yeah, he seemed to be in the wrong spot with his route-running a lot of the time. Pretty strange. Seems pretty clear the Jets don't think much of him so far.

Megatron96 · 09-25-2023, 05:14 PM

Superficially, the WR room performed at about the same level as they did in the JAX game. About the same total yards (163 vs. 150?), 15 vs. 13 receptions, about the same number of targets.

09-07-2023, 09:08 PM
Sofa King Hello Sofa King's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota	**Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread** They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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09-25-2023, 03:58 PM	#2080
DRM08 MVP DRM08's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Texas	Re-watching the game. At the very beginning, Erin Andrews said Mahomes told her that this might be the most talented offense surrounding him in his career. Seems like a really generous statement. He had a more explosive Travis Kelce, prime Tyreek Hill, prime Sammy Watkins, prime Kareem Hunt in 2018. His LT & RT were pretty great as well. That being said, it was nice to see better chemistry between Mahomes and the younger receivers like Moore & Rice in this Chicago game. It's hard to read into it very much given they were playing against a really bad Chicago defense. The Jets defense will provide a much bigger challenge next weekend and it will be interesting to see if the Chiefs offense can put together a high quality performance.
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09-25-2023, 04:56 PM	#2081
BossChief SuperBowl or bust BossChief's Avatar Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa	I wonder how much of the bridge is burnt for Mecole Hardman. He’s buried in NY. Before the injury, he was actually looking pretty good. His contract is peanuts and he can take those jet screen snaps from Skyy/Toney and make them lethal again. I’d take him from NY on a “swap of 2027 7th round conditional picks” type trade…but for Veach to have never even offered him a contract probably suggests he’s done here.
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09-25-2023, 05:14 PM	#2085
Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Megatron96's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Phoenix, AZ	Superficially, the WR room performed at about the same level as they did in the JAX game. About the same total yards (163 vs. 150?), 15 vs. 13 receptions, about the same number of targets.
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