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#2026 |
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Who knows?
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It's almost as if someone warned you last week.
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#2027 |
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Arkansas
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So am I correct in thinking you want the government to subsidize the poor?
Valid point for you but not a valid point for 99% of the country. Most trucks/SUVs are "lifestyle" vehicles that only transport people to and from work in mild weather. I've commuted in ice just fine in my fwd hatchback with chains. I've completely gutted and remodeled a house using only said hatchback and a $500 trailer. Do I get weird looks at Home Depot? Yep but I dont care. I'm using my shitcan hatchback waaaay harder than most consumer trucks ever get used. I have no sympathy for folks who buy fuel inefficient cars just so they can project a masculine or cool (or whatever hole they are trying to fill) image. Joel Salatin says "this is a result of a subconscious dissatisfaction with life. The emotional consequence of hurried, harried lifestyles, fighting the expressway and sitting in a Dilbert cubicle is a yearning to taste something real." At the end of the day, I (and I think most folks) want a beautiful and awe inspiring world for my children to live in. Wasteful fossil fuel use only detracts from that. "There are yet many boys to be born who, like Isaiah, ‘may see, and know, and consider, and understand together, that the hand of the lord hath done this.’ But where shall they see and know, and consider? In museums?” - Aldo Leopold "I will plant cedars in the wilderness, acacias, myrtles, and olive trees. I will set cypresses in the desert, elms and boxwood together, so that all may see and know, may consider and understand, that the hand of the LORD has done this and the Holy One of Israel has created it.” Isaiah 41:19-20 Where are those cedars now? Almost extinct in lebanon from overuse. We live in a time of abundance (like Lebanon in Biblical times) but there won't be much left of the world for future generations if we are driven only by low prices. This post goes well beyond the scope of your post so it is more in response to the general sentiment of the thread. |
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#2028 |
Politically Incorrect
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Is Donger happy our government doesn't want to drill and push gas to $10 a gallon?
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"Think BOOM!"
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: 33.675° N 106.475° W
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Super Grover
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: KCMO
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1. It’s a political dance. And the both parties know idiotic Americans will fall for the false announcements 2. Oil companies have never had any intention to drill in it 3. Even if they were going to drill. It would take years to benefit from it Meaning it has no affect on price. |
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#2031 |
Super Grover
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: KCMO
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#2032 |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Highlandville, MO
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So, please tell us how it is that cobalt, nickel, lithium, and lead mining for the batteries as well as disposal of said batteries and caustic battery acid in vehicles that run on electricity generated at coal powered electric plants is better for the environment than drilling oil. Not to mention the added strain on the electric grid. I am all for alternative fuel. But I don't see how electric cars are the answer. Trying to push people to electric by enacting the idiotic policies of Brandon that is causing our price at the pump to rise us a bunch of bullshit.
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It was not a fair catch
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Correcting papers
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Chonson County
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Chonson County
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#2036 |
Starter
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Arkansas
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I agree with yall, every option is ****ed up. There are no easy answers.
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#2037 |
best in the biz
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Under Pressure
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#2038 |
It was not a fair catch
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Correcting papers
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#2039 |
Politically Incorrect
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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the ONLY green solution is hydrogen. EV's are another farce
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#2040 |
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2019
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